Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 18019781)

Maybe we are saying the same thing? I just think that a left tackle drops to the mid twenties that’s good value. I’m not sure that any of the prospects at 31 make an immediate contribution, except maybe safety, CB, WR or RB. And those aren’t positions of dire need that we can fill later in the draft The elite DTs are probably gone by 31. The chiefs have positioned themselves to take BPA. But I think that the bpa with a small trade up could be a LT. I don’t think that’s desperate at all. And all picks at our range are a chance. Remember Robert gallery? He ended being a pretty good guard. All these picks are a chance and a bulk of them never make it. Look at FAU. You have to take some chances to eventually get a long term left tackle when you are picking late every year. Do you want the chiefs to rely on free agency for premium positions forever? If not, you’re going to have to take some chances.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18020060)

Great player, but I don't understand the infatuation with him as a fit for KC.

he's a 3-tech. We already have THE 3-tech.

So...he gets Wharton's snaps on passing downs?

To ME, the DT we need fit-wise is a true NOSE. Williams, Collins, someone like that.

But that's just me.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18019377)

Kareem Hunt ran a 4.6 at the combine. Seemed to be a pretty good back for the two years of his prime that he was here.

You don't have to love Skattebo, I'm just saying there are a lot of ways to get yards on the ground, lightning speed is one of them but not the only one.

If it's speed you want, Tuten is your guy.

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 18020201)

Give me a Tuten sub 4.4 type all day

We already have plenty of grinders, now we need a jet fighter

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18019671)

Winning begets winning.

The Chiefs won last year because they kinda assumed they would. It's what they always did.

So when crunch time came, in a league built for parity, they didn't puke on their shoes.

And had they managed ANYTHING offensively in the 1st half of the SB, I think they could've done that again. They were just so damn bad that they never gave the 'championship pedigree' a chance to save the day again.

I still maintain that there's not one roster decision that would've changed that outcome. Probably not 2. Put a healthy Trent Williams at LT and I don't think that fixes it. Put Tyreek Hill at WR and I don't think it fixes it.

We just got ****ing whipped. Everywhere.

They came out firing and we didn't. Hard to know/explain why. On that day, the Eagles were a damn buzzsaw and that happens from time to time. I look at that Seahawks Super Bowl over the Broncos back around 2013. If that game gets played 10 times, I think you see a 6-4 split in Seattles favor and I think 8 of those games are 1, 2 score games tops. Play that game 25 times and I don't think you get another 35 point ass-kicking.

That day the Seahawks just came out and absolutely took it to the Broncos. They weren't that much better than Denver. Denver didn't have any single fatal flaw that killed them or any specific roster change that could've been made to have saved the day.

They just got their asses kicked. It happens sometimes. Statistically the best offense in football history couldn't find it's ass with a flashlight and a map. They just didn't have it.

Burn the tapes and move forward.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 18019722)

Why take a LT early if he's just another project? You yourself said it's not a deep draft for tackles so why would we want to pick AGAINST the flow of the draft? There's going to be some quality interior d-linemen available. Much better players at their position than Conerly. Simmons just isn't realistic.

There's just no reason to hyperfocus on LT. Let the draft come to you, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 18020414)

We can stay at 32 and get a starting DT there.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18020188)

A small trade up to get Walter Nolen or Kenneth Grant or even Luther Burden or Barron would make more sense than a small trade up for someone with Simmons’ injury concerns or Conerly’s upside questions.

You trade up for dudes you’re convinced are studs at value positions.

If you trade up for guys that have questions - even at value positions - that’s how you completely burn picks.

Everyone here wants the Chiefs to find a good solution for LT. It just may not be available in this draft.

Re: Simmons, the only way I’m comfortable PERSONALLY spending the capital on him is if he falls into the 2nd/3rd round range.

And if he falls there, it’s a pretty clear sign people think the knee is compromised long-term. So you don’t even want him at that point.

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 18020482)

Other teams passing on a player may be a signal of what they think the situation is, but they can be mistaken. Everyone was passing on Trey Smith until the Chiefs took him in the 6th. I'm not saying that means we should take Simmons, but we should have our own expert opinions on his potential rather than relying on what other teams seem to think.

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 18020558)

So, if a team picking in the top 5-10 of Round 2 comes at us with a trade offer to get to 31 so they can nab a Jaxson Dart type, do we take it?

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 18020561)

I wouldn't unless it's a significant overpay. Like another 3rd or future 2nd.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 18020573)

Depends on who is left. If there isn’t a DT, Wr, Cb, or DE left who is a clear 1st/last guy at his position in that tier, I could see dropping back 5-8 spots. 40 would be about my max.

Wouldn’t need to be a crazy overpay in that situation.

I wouldn’t trade out of taking Nolen, period, even for a clear overpay.

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18020060)

Great player, but I don't understand the infatuation with him as a fit for KC.

he's a 3-tech. We already have THE 3-tech.

So...he gets Wharton's snaps on passing downs?

To ME, the DT we need fit-wise is a true NOSE. Williams, Collins, someone like that.

But that's just me.