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Kman34 10-22-2024 10:01 AM

We’ll wait till the trade deadline… And get what we get.. Veach has a plan and it doesn’t involve giving away high draft picks..

DJ's left nut 10-22-2024 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17758358)
Maybe they just didn't want Cooper that badly. Maybe they're working on some other trade and need those picks to do it. Again, the 2 best fits for this team are still out there.

Cooper's a pretty ideal fit for the squad, isn't he?

He's almost a 1 for 1 replacement for Rice. Johnson is more of a Hollywood type.

And prior to the season, if I'd have said "You can have Rice or Hollywood healthy for an entire season..." aren't we pretty much all gonna take Rice?

Johnson and Cooper were the two best fits, IMO. Kirk would be in that group but/for money. Slayton is a step behind that duo.

Mescalito345 10-22-2024 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17758294)
No he's not. And ultimately I don't buy that.

If nothing else, the Titans 3rd is significantly more valuable than the Bills 3rd. And Cleveland doesn't care about 'not helping the Chiefs'.

If we'd have beaten the Bills offer, if only by a little bit, they'd have taken it.

Future draft picks are seriously overrated. Trade them away for a current star WR. Win now!!

RaidersOftheCellar 10-22-2024 10:07 AM

Starting to worry that McCoy is right about Veach standing pat.

htismaqe 10-22-2024 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17758368)
Cooper's a pretty ideal fit for the squad, isn't he?

He's almost a 1 for 1 replacement for Rice. Johnson is more of a Hollywood type.

And prior to the season, if I'd have said "You can have Rice or Hollywood healthy for an entire season..." aren't we pretty much all gonna take Rice?

Johnson and Cooper were the two best fits, IMO. Kirk would be in that group but/for money. Slayton is a step behind that duo.

I'd rather have Slayton than Cooper. Too many drops for my taste.

FloridaMan88 10-22-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17758379)
Starting to worry that McCoy is right about Veach standing pat.

Seems almost impossible that he would.

This isn’t like last year when the Chiefs in theory were waiting on guys to improve.

They are literally down to 3 healthy NFL WR’s… and Skyy Less.

DJ's left nut 10-22-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17758380)
I'd rather have Slayton than Cooper. Too many drops for my taste.

The thing that worries me about Cooper is that the drops seem mental with him and come/go without warning.

He seems to get the yips for a few weeks. But in between all that mess, his hands are actually quite good. And he's a nice, physical target. And has always been durable.

The 'sound' version of Cooper is a better fit, IMO. But if the yips were to surface here, yeah, it would be annoying.

Sassy Squatch 10-22-2024 10:18 AM

What's baffling is Moore is apparently STILL higher on the depth chart and getting more playing time than Hardman. 33 snaps for Moore. 21 snaps for Hardman. ****ing WHY!?!?!?

Kman34 10-22-2024 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17758398)
What's baffling is Moore is apparently STILL higher on the depth chart and getting more playing time than Hardman. 33 snaps for Moore. 21 snaps for Hardman. ****ing WHY!?!?!?

Blocking on run plays

Sassy Squatch 10-22-2024 10:20 AM

Get the **** out of here. We've got 4 TEs rostered and they're having Scrubs McGee block instead?!? Get him off this ****ing roster.

Warpaint69 10-22-2024 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17758398)
What's baffling is Moore is apparently STILL higher on the depth chart and getting more playing time than Hardman. 33 snaps for Moore. 21 snaps for Hardman. ****ing WHY!?!?!?

He's probably one of their more willing pass blockers as a WR, literally the only thing he can do.

DJ's left nut 10-22-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17758398)
What's baffling is Moore is apparently STILL higher on the depth chart and getting more playing time than Hardman. 33 snaps for Moore. 21 snaps for Hardman. ****ing WHY!?!?!?

That's truly incredible.

Moore got 33 snaps and 1 damn target? That he dropped?

I assumed he was in there for a dozen snaps or something. Lord that's pathetic.

Mahomes simply doesn't look at him at all. Wasn't looking at him last year either. I cannot understand why he's on this team.

For all the shit that Toney did. For all the times his mistakes were hugely magnified. Mahomes LOOKED for him. He was in the progressions and whether 1st or 3rd read, Mahomes would make his way there.

When Moore is on the field, Mahomes simply stops at the 2nd read. He doesn't even bother looking at him in the progressions. It's pretty funny to watch in person.

He'll look that way if things are breaking down and Moore just comes into his vision, but that's it.

When Skyy Moore is on the field, you're playing 10 vs. 11.

BleedingRed 10-22-2024 10:22 AM

Can we promote Ross? At least he can high point the ball

DJ's left nut 10-22-2024 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17758406)
He's probably one of their more willing pass blockers as a WR, literally the only thing he can do.

And Frank Clark sets the edge.

We've shown a half dozen reps around here where Moore just jogs out the play downfield.

He's no better at blocking than he is at anything else.

Skyy Moore ****ing sucks. It's a sunk cost problem and an organizational blind spot. Trying to look for logical reasons to have him out there is a fools errand.

There aren't any.

DJ's left nut 10-22-2024 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17758402)
Blocking on run plays

Grading out below Hardman and Worthy as a run blocker thus far this season.

He's shitty at that as well.


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