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TribalElder 08-25-2023 03:13 PM

Thinking back since Veach took over has any player who "complains" about their contract or pushes to get paid actually get a new contract?

Honey Badger - nope
Tyreek Hill - nope
Chris Jones - ????

There are probably others that I'm overlooking. Seems like last time it was the last year of CJ's contract he showed up for camp did the things and then got a contract. This time not so much

Dante84 08-25-2023 03:34 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to Carmen DeFalco, the Chicago Bears seem very interested in Chris Jones. “Some pretty connected people around the NFL are hearing that the Bears have indeed called Kansas City to inquire.”</p>&mdash; Mackenzie Webb (@kenziewebbsport) <a href="https://twitter.com/kenziewebbsport/status/1695183927424553043?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 08-25-2023 03:41 PM

Gervon Dexter and a 1st in 2024?

We're getting to the point where I think we'd have to make that deal. I'd hate it, but Dexter's a 2nd rounder and the 1st is effectively worth a 2nd.

So a pair of 2nds for Jones? Eh, it's a hair light, but man, think of what that $20 million in rollover does for the cap situation next season. And Dexter might be able to contribute this season. Wormley won't be ready until October at the earliest but maybe Ioannidis can help out quickly. Hicks might have some gas left in the tank.

I dunno - there are ways to mitigate the damage for 2023 and ways to really catapult ourselves forward in 2024 and beyond.

Man, I HATE that it's come to this. I want him here long-term. This is a guy you want to see as a career Chiefs. But he's just gotta pull his head from his ass.

O.city 08-25-2023 03:45 PM

Yeah I hate it

I’ve been adamant that it’s too late to trade him this year but if he’s adamant on sitting, do it and move on.

DRM08 08-25-2023 03:50 PM

Wow, so an 8-game holdout would drop his franchise tag number by a huge amount next year. That's hilarious. Part of me is hoping he is stupid enough to go that route.

DJ's left nut 08-25-2023 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17073566)
Yeah I hate it

I’ve been adamant that it’s too late to trade him this year but if he’s adamant on sitting, do it and move on.

i still don't think he is. I think he'll be here.

But man, a 'hold-in' is just so easy. Getting some hobo-spirit or just not playing as hard.

Even if it's not on purpose, we SAW what Mathieu did when he started worrying about his next deal. If you're not there 100%, you're just not there. Business Decision Mathieu did a lot of damage to his reputation here and it was absolutely earned.

I don't want to see a repeat with Jones. Even if he's here, if the well has been poisoned, I don't know that calling his bluff is even a good idea anymore.

We may have reached a puke point in this situation. **** **** **** this sucks.

O.city 08-25-2023 03:57 PM

Yeah that’s kinda the vibe I got from Andy at his presser

Bl00dyBizkitz 08-25-2023 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17071907)
Seth Keysor's take on things:

Spoiler!

The fact this is happening is just downright sad. Compared to Tyreek, Chris Jones IS the heart and soul of the defense and like Seth mentioned, the defense is designed around the existence of Jones. If he's not there, its hard to mask that. Its gonna hurt if he's not.

He seems like a leader, too, in clips from The Franchise and general voice bits from the team, he's incredibly intelligent with what he says, how he holds himself, and he fires up others on the team.

Obviously if this continues then we get what we can from him and move on. But as others have said, I would've liked to see him stay a Chief for life.

Megatron96 08-25-2023 04:30 PM

Damnit. I have a bad feeling about this whole thing now.

Pitt Gorilla 08-25-2023 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17073560)
Gervon Dexter and a 1st in 2024?

We're getting to the point where I think we'd have to make that deal. I'd hate it, but Dexter's a 2nd rounder and the 1st is effectively worth a 2nd.

So a pair of 2nds for Jones? Eh, it's a hair light, but man, think of what that $20 million in rollover does for the cap situation next season. And Dexter might be able to contribute this season. Wormley won't be ready until October at the earliest but maybe Ioannidis can help out quickly. Hicks might have some gas left in the tank.

I dunno - there are ways to mitigate the damage for 2023 and ways to really catapult ourselves forward in 2024 and beyond.

Man, I HATE that it's come to this. I want him here long-term. This is a guy you want to see as a career Chiefs. But he's just gotta pull his head from his ass.

I wouldn't hate that at all, honestly.

Discuss Thrower 08-25-2023 04:39 PM

I don't think anyone wants a Tyrann Mathieu analogue on the defensive line for a season.

DaFace 08-25-2023 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17071907)
Seth Keysor's take on things:



Spoiler!

C'mon man, at least link to his site.

https://mnchiefsfan.substack.com/p/e...e-worth-noting

O.city 08-25-2023 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17073560)
Gervon Dexter and a 1st in 2024?

We're getting to the point where I think we'd have to make that deal. I'd hate it, but Dexter's a 2nd rounder and the 1st is effectively worth a 2nd.

So a pair of 2nds for Jones? Eh, it's a hair light, but man, think of what that $20 million in rollover does for the cap situation next season. And Dexter might be able to contribute this season. Wormley won't be ready until October at the earliest but maybe Ioannidis can help out quickly. Hicks might have some gas left in the tank.

I dunno - there are ways to mitigate the damage for 2023 and ways to really catapult ourselves forward in 2024 and beyond.

Man, I HATE that it's come to this. I want him here long-term. This is a guy you want to see as a career Chiefs. But he's just gotta pull his head from his ass.

I’d take that and call the 9ers and offer it all for Bosa

TwistedChief 08-25-2023 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17073645)
I’d take that and call the 9ers and offer it all for Bosa

And they’ll laugh in your face and move on.

O.city 08-25-2023 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17073646)
And they’ll laugh in your face and move on.

They’re in the same place with him we are Jones contractually it seems


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