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Ming the Merciless 12-23-2014 02:19 PM

I just ordered my real USDA prime rib

Not 'choice' bs many try and pass off

$150 bux for a 5 ribber

Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11214734)
Hmmm, never thought of the broiler. Saw a chef on You Tube take it out at 118°. Let sit on counter until it rises to 125° then pop in at 500% for 20 minutes. I am just nervous this roaster will overcook the thing and then browning it might finish it off and losing heat by testing interior if I wind up having to do too often.

This will be exactly the second rib roast I've ever done. The first was 5+ years ago, and I don't recall how I did it.

So I just happened to get the America's Test Kitchen "MEAT" book recently in the mail because I didn't send them a card not to send it... that recipe looked solid, and they've never led me astray.

:shrug:

Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2014 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11214739)
Your worry IS legit, bep

Most recommend STARTING by browning for this reason....and finish by bringing to temp.

Yep. I'll brown in my cast iron, then cook. I'll do a final crisp under the broiler for a couple minutes.

BucEyedPea 12-23-2014 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11214739)
Your worry IS legit, bep

Most recommend STARTING by browning for this reason....and finish by bringing to temp.

If I was using my oven for a dry roast method, I would do that. This roaster oven does not cook the same way so I think it makes more sense to do when done. It does not make a crispy outer layer and if a turkey does not make crispy skin. It uses more moisture when it cooks which does leave the interior moister and juicier but doesn't caramelize the exterior—which looks like crap.
Presentation is important to me. You should see my table settings —and I am still not down.

BucEyedPea 12-23-2014 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11214748)
Yep. I'll brown in my cast iron, then cook. I'll do a final crisp under the broiler for a couple minutes.

This roaster would just make that browning limp with moisture though. So I think I have to end off doing it. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it and then broil in the end. Main fear is over cooking to medium well. Ugh!

Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2014 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11214741)
I just ordered my real USDA prime rib

Not 'choice' bs many try and pass off

$150 bux for a 5 ribber

Prime rib doesn't have to be prime grade, that's a misnomer. A standing rib roast, also known as prime rib, is a cut of beef from the primal rib, one of the nine primal cuts of beef.

Prime grade will obviously be better, and I'm jealous. But I'm not about to spend $150 on a rib roast.

Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2014 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea (Post 11214750)
This roaster would just make that browning limp with moisture though. So I think I have to end off doing it. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try it and then broil in the end. Main fear is over cooking to medium well. Ugh!

Yeah, as I said to someone else, it sucks to destroy an expensive hunk of meat.

BucEyedPea 12-23-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11214743)
This will be exactly the second rib roast I've ever done. The first was 5+ years ago, and I don't recall how I did it.

So I just happened to get the America's Test Kitchen "MEAT" book recently in the mail because I didn't send them a card not to send it... that recipe looked solid, and they've never led me astray.

:shrug:

I do this roast every year. I am just doing something new and untried method-of-cooking wise.


I almost was gonna do a tenderloin of beef as it cooks faster.

Problem is my pop overs have to be cooked at a different temp than meat. So I could never do at same time. So would make those first and then warm but it tends to dry them out. This way, both come out of the oven at the same time. Much better. Plus I needed more for two extra adults.

Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2014 02:25 PM

No pun intended, but a good primer: http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/12/h...as-dinner.html

Interesting that Rule #9 says "Don't Worry About Browning Until the End".

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Many recipes will have you start your meat in a really hot oven or in a roasting pan on the stovetop to brown it before reducing the temperature to finish it off. In fact, the opposite method works better. Slow roast first, then brown at the very end. It allows you to brown faster, which means you end up with less overcooked meat in the layers below. The method also allows you to rest your meat prior to browning it, which means that as soon as your guests are ready to eat, you're ready to carve.

Ming the Merciless 12-23-2014 02:26 PM

I just think you'll be over done at those temps....
Personally, its easier to do the high temps 1st and get it perfect...

If its at 125 and then you cook it on 500 for another 20, that seems a bit too much to me....

But you know your own kitchen more than me...I do mine at 500 then lower to 325 and they come out so perfectly.... I used to make them the other way until a butcher told me the fool proof way...take it out at like 115 ...rest it, and it raises to 125

BucEyedPea 12-23-2014 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11214758)
Yeah, as I said to someone else, it sucks to destroy an expensive hunk of meat.

Yup! Plus ruining what would have been a gloria in excelsis dinner.

BucEyedPea 12-23-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11214764)
I just think you'll be over done at those temps....
Personally, its easier to do the high temps 1st and get it perfect...

If its at 125 and then you cook it on 500 for another 20, that seems a bit too much to me....

But you know your own kitchen more than me...I do mine at 500 then lower to 325 and they come out so perfectly.... I used to make them the other way until a butcher told me the fool proof way...take it out at like 115 ...rest it, and it raises to 125

That's how I have done it in the past. All great tips btw.

Ming the Merciless 12-23-2014 02:29 PM

If you're worried about timing and presentation, I can see going with browning last....

So that your meat is ready, and you can just brown and serve....

Fire Me Boy! 12-23-2014 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 11214764)
I just think you'll be over done at those temps....
Personally, its easier to do the high temps 1st and get it perfect...

If its at 125 and then you cook it on 500 for another 20, that seems a bit too much to me....

But you know your own kitchen more than me...I do mine at 500 then lower to 325 and they come out so perfectly.... I used to make them the other way until a butcher told me the fool proof way...take it out at like 115 ...rest it, and it raises to 125

A million ways to skin a cat.

I've always read low and slow with a rib roast, so I'm doing 200 degrees till the meat registers 110, then turn the oven off until it hits 120-125. Pull it out and let it rest for 30 minutes, then under the broiler to crisp.

Ming the Merciless 12-23-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11214780)
A million ways to skin a cat.

I've always read low and slow with a rib roast, so I'm doing 200 degrees till the meat registers 110, then turn the oven off until it hits 120-125. Pull it out and let it rest for 30 minutes, then under the broiler to crisp.

Absolutely...the lower the better, IMO.

I gotta cook at my sisters house or I'd do it lower also...maybe 250...I never tried it THAT low, but I'd Luke to

I might smoke mine next year


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