Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10759550)

If the Cavs acquire Love, Lebron doesn't have to ****ing play 40+ minutes a night, chiefzilla

You're making assumptions and pretending it's a given fact when neither you nor anybody else have a clue what's going to happen.

I could just as easily say, "Bennett and Waiters are busts; Wiggins probably isn't going to be good enough to be the next Lebron, so now the Cavs have a big two and garbage instead of a big three. In the big 2 scenario, Lebron is forced to play 40+ minutes per night, while in the other scenario, he has two other guys to handle the scoring while he can rest on the bench and plays under 40 minutes per night."

And guess what? It would be just as ****ing valid.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10759822)

Who is going to guard the best player if you hook LeBron? Kylie, Waiters, and love are horrendous at defense.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10759834)

And for the 83rd ****ing time around this circle, GO GET SOMEBODY TO DO THAT.

It's not that ****ing hard.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10759848)

Never go full zilla. For ****'s sake man LeBron doesn't HAVE to play 40 plus without the beaker. Dumb.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10759843)

With WHAT? They will have negative cap space and will have to make big cuts and barely hold on to who they have. They will have traded two first round picks away.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10759874)

I've given you two possibilities in proposed trades. They're not what will happen, but they are solutions to your problem nonetheless.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10759874)

I've given you two possibilities in proposed trades. They're not what will happen, but they are solutions to your problem nonetheless.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10759884)

Ever one know in the NBA it's best to have a bunch of jobbers over star power!

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10759894)

From what I recall, you recommended five+ million contract guys.

The big three will command 60mil or more. Waiters will command five. Thompson or Varejao will command about 8. Your starting lineup alone is going to be way above the cap. Where is this money going to come from? Add another contract and you're at 78 mil. And that's assuming you don't keep any bench beyond a 6th man.

The original big 3 took 10 mil in payouts to afford help. The cavs are going to pay three guys max contracts. It's feasible. But it's going to be much harder than you give it credit for.

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10759910)

Wiggins is already a 5+/year player. Bennett is close to that. Trade them both, ask for cash in return plus one of the players I suggested, and you're good to go.

Like you said, you're giving up the two most recent #1 overall picks plus two more 1st rounders for one player who will command a huge salary. You can ask for some give back from the Wolves. That's how negotiations work.

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10759884)

Ever one know in the NBA it's best to have a bunch of jobbers over star power!

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10759970)

You don't need three All-Stars to win. Two it just fine, LeBron has almost won by himself multiple times. Waiters and Wiggins both have All-Star potential. They are setting just fine without trading a bunch of assets crippling the future.

If we didn't have Irving I could more than see your point, but LeBron isn't alone in Cleveland anymore. This roster is 10x more talented than the one LeBron left that had the best record in the NBA and made the Championship. Should be better coached, oh and even LeBron has gotten better since then.

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10759970)

You don't need three All-Stars to win. Two it just fine, LeBron has almost won by himself multiple times. Waiters and Wiggins both have All-Star potential. They are setting just fine without trading a bunch of assets crippling the future.

If we didn't have Irving I could more than see your point, but LeBron isn't alone in Cleveland anymore. This roster is 10x more talented than the one LeBron left that had the best record in the NBA and made the Championship. Should be better coached, oh and even LeBron has gotten better since then.