Christian Colon = Kolten Wong (or, at least close enough that we're not dealing one of our high upside SS for him)

Fortunately Duncan generally has more than "LOL" to say.

There are arguments for and against; Calixte and Mondesi have higher ceilings but also significantly lower floors. The odds suggests that one or both of them never take a major league at-bat. Meanwhile, Wong really could step in today and be a better big league 2b than Chris Getz.

Wong's ceiling is probably Jose Vidro (minus Vidro's 2000 campaign; I don't think Wong will ever have 20+ pop). He could reach that as soon as next season and be under team control for another 5 years. You're really not willing to give up the 3rd best long-term SS option you have for that guy?

The Royals would be silly not to move one of those guys at this point with their biggest holes being at 2b and RF. You could fill one of those holes damn nicely with a very good young 2b prospect.

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That's fair. I don't know that I'd say Colon is on par with Wong, but there may be a small enough gap between them that you'd want to save your powder for a different trade.

Colon's sure failed a lot, though. He's had a couple of brief spurts of productivity, but he's otherwise been a pretty shitty minor leaguer. I know he was a high value draft pick, but you eventually want to see some production and Colon's offered very little thus far. I think you improve the odds of getting a legitimate big-league 2b pretty substantially by moving for Wong, but I've been wrong before.

Mondesi is one of those guys that you wait and see on as he could be superstar caliber, Calixte I'd be more willing to part with for the right guy... I don't know enough about Wong to say 'yay' or 'nay', though...

This.

Mondesi--yeah, it would take a LOT to pry mondesi from our grip. calixte... yeah, more doable. not sure I'd make the move, but still more palatable than mondesi

I could see Calixte being moved as the season goes on to bolster the roster, but I doubt they'd move him for a guy like Wong when Christian Colon is there and extremely similar. They put up nearly identical numbers in AA, playing in the same league (and Wong had Oscar Taveras hitting behind him all season, vs. Colon hitting in front of Wil Myers for a half season.

Colon also adds the benefit of being able to play SS as your backup guy there, while Wong really can't slide over there.

I don't think there's very much at all that would get them to budge on Raul-formerly-officially-listed-as-Adalberto Mondesi at this point. And there shouldn't be.

His numbers at AA last year are nearly identical to Wong's.

Colon: .289/.364/.392 | .756 OPS | 16 XBH in 270 AB | 12/18 SB
Wong: .287/.348/.405 | .754 OPS | 38 XBH in 520 AB | 21/32 SB

Wong hit for slightly more power (Colon projected to 31 XBH in same number of AB as Wong) but Colon was slightly better at getting on base. Neither is a guy who should be trying to steal bases in the major leagues.

Colon was actually BETTER at Omaha than he was at AAA, too, in an extremely small sample size (17 AB).

If Colon was shitty last year, so was Wong...

That's why I can't see them moving even Calixte for Wong. Christian Colon is practically the same player, and he has more positional versatility.

Side note: Who ranked WOng as a top 50 prospect? BA and BP both had him in the top 100, but down around the 80-90 area.

Well, yeah.

Don't know if the Marlins will move him, though. They already are on the verge of all-out fan revolt down there. And they'd need some major-league ready talent back in return to do it.

He meant a top 50 second base prospect. ;)

Would we have the pieces to get a deal done? I mean, the Marlins could just go the Astros' route at this point. I think they're past the revolt stage.

Mondesi, Ventura, Duffy, Crow, and Bonifacio for Stanton?

Sure, if they were willing to trade him.

I'd swap Mondesi and Starling in the asking price there and see if I could get away with it. Rest of the package looks reasonable, I guess.

If they managed to trade for Stanton, you'd hope part of the trade is an immediate extension that buys out at least a year or two of FA for him. He's only controlled through 2016.