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TRR 12-10-2024 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17852022)
It's just sometimes though... they have good opening drives (and assume those are pretty well scripted), they very quickly get their shit together when they absolutely need to at the end of games, and sometimes it happens for a drive in the middle of the game.

It's sometimes mind boggling how it can go from indecisive rookie QB to 3 time SB Champion Patrick Mahomes on a drive by drive basis.
Very well said. It’s maddening really. You really just want Mahomes to be decisive. If you’re going to run, then go. If you’re going to hang in and take a shot, then do it. Its the indecisive plays that kill me as a fan.

O.city 12-10-2024 01:29 PM
I don't wanna make a thread for it but....

With guys out there running around not getting open and or whatever it is.....Remigio needs to be on offense some. He looked better with the ball in his hands on the punt returns than most of our WR's have looked.

Chiefspants 12-10-2024 01:56 PM
Yeah, I don’t like that clip. It’s possible Mahomes thought one of the DB’s had a clear lane - but I never stood for excuses like that with Alex, and that was the most Alexian “ah shucks we’ll try it again next drive” that I’ve seen from Patrick.

He rarely has played that timidly in the playoffs, he did turtle like that against the Ravens and 49ers (58) at times, but the only time that cost us a game was against the Bengals, which is a major outlier in his stellar body of postseason work.

Megatron96 12-10-2024 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17852039)
Well, I don't disagree but....shit fellas that's kinda life in the NFL.

Burrow gets his ass kicked in behind that line. He still plays well. Matt Stafford is flinging it everywhere behind UDFA's it seems like.


They both have much better WRs corps than we do. That said, I don't think that's the whole story, because both of those offenses seem to opt for "players over plays," while our offensive philosophy seems to be more about spreading the targets around via manufactured touches, so we simply don't pepper our best receivers with targets the way those offenses do.

O.city 12-10-2024 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17852321)
Yeah, I don’t like that clip. It’s possible Mahomes thought one of the DB’s had a clear lane - but I never stood for excuses like that with Alex, and that was the most Alexian “ah shucks we’ll try it again next drive” that I’ve seen from Patrick.

He rarely has played that timidly in the playoffs, he did turtle like that against the Ravens and 49ers (58) at times, but the only time that cost us a game was against the Bengals, which is a major outlier in his stellar body of postseason work.
He's played like that for 2 years now.

I don't understand what has happened.

Valiant 12-10-2024 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17851148)
Last night Worthy had the best game of the season. Not statistically, obviously, but just being all over the field and catching timely passes. Andy is utilizing him in different ways, not simply as a gadget type like he did early in the season. I really like the fact that he hasn't gotten injured, yet. His thin frame is muscular/bony if that makes any sense. Not thin fat but very lean and bony.

The biggest issue really has been Mahomes not developing chemistry with him because the eye test tells you a different story. He has an incredible ability to create sizeable seperation and Mahomes is not taking advantage of that, partly due to the O Line play but moreso because Mahomes just hasn't developed that consistent connection with him like he did with Rice last season.
I personally think it is on mahomes.
For some reason his touch on below los passes and past 30 yards seems off. Probably the line and not being able to step up. And when 5he accuracy is there, it is dropped.

We will eventually find it this post season.

With what teams are giving us and with the stunts. I am not sure why we don't mix in 3 step drops. Few more runs then a play action.

Patrick still works it at the end of games. Not sure what changes outside of him saying I got this.

dlphg9 12-10-2024 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17852039)
Well, I don't disagree but....shit fellas that's kinda life in the NFL.

Burrow gets his ass kicked in behind that line. He still plays well. Matt Stafford is flinging it everywhere behind UDFA's it seems like.
Yeah I don't get this he doesn't trust his OL to keep him upright shit. Like you said Burrow got his ass beat year after year and still put up the stats.

I've seen him do this same thing over and over. It's where he's in a clean pocket and the middle opens up, but insteLad of standing there and throwing it he decides to run and gets sacked or tackled for a 1 yard gain. It happens at least once a week. Idk what can even be done, but I'm betting it gets figured out just in time for the playoffs.

And just went and looked. 2/3 times he was sacked it's because he did exactly what I described above. He had time and there becomes an opening and he tries running and get sack instead. There is nothing the line can do about it.

JPH83 12-10-2024 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17852361)
Yeah I don't get this he doesn't trust his OL to keep him upright shit. Like you said Burrow got his ass beat year after year and still put up the stats.

I've seen him do this same thing over and over. It's where he's in a clean pocket and the middle opens up, but instead of standing there and throwing it he decides to run and get a tackled for a 1 yard gain. It happens at least once a week. Idk what can even be done, but I'm betting it gets figured out just in time for the playoffs.
Genuine question but how much was it fixed last year before the playoffs and how much was it just worked around, or Mahomes just tucked and ran and made it work?

Chiefspants 12-10-2024 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17852379)
Genuine question but how much was it fixed last year before the playoffs and how much was it just worked around, or Mahomes just tucked and ran and made it work?
I thought that killer instinct was there in the Dolphins, Bills and first half of the Ravens game.

He was super cautious for a long stretch of the Niners game, but turned it on again in the 4th quarter through his legendary walk-off drive.

dlphg9 12-10-2024 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17852379)
Genuine question but how much was it fixed last year before the playoffs and how much was it just worked around, or Mahomes just tucked and ran and made it work?
Well just look at his stats. 3 straight games with at least a 74% comp percentage. He had 5 TDs and 1 INT in those final 3. He was good in the Miami game, but those circumstances were different because of the weather. I think he just knows wtf he needs to do and does it when it matters.

JPH83 12-10-2024 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17852396)
Well just look at his stats. 3 straight games with at least a 74% comp percentage. He had 5 TDs and 1 INT in those final 3. He was good in the Miami game, but those circumstances were different because of the weather. I think he just knows wtf he needs to do and does it when it matters.
I'm sure you and Chiefspants are right. Did his protection hold up better, did we give the OTs more help, run more or less. I honestly remember so little from it other than the D being clutch. But yeah, obviously Mahomes did enough and he generally finds a way...kind of an understatement I suppose

Chiefspants 12-10-2024 03:49 PM
I’m going to say the thing Kelce has all but admitted on the podcast and say officials swallow their whistle much, much more in the playoffs and that hugely benefitted our offense with Donavan covering Mahomes blindside.

*Kelce said the Chiefs didn’t fully appreciate this until the Patriots prison rushed their offense with extracurriculars in the AFCCG and the Chiefs have adopted that style since (it seemed to really rattle the Ravens last year).

htismaqe 12-10-2024 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17852462)
I’m going to say the thing Kelce has all but admitted on the podcast and say officials swallow their whistle much, much more in the playoffs and that hugely benefitted our offense with Donavan covering Mahomes blindside.

*Kelce said the Chiefs didn’t fully appreciate this until the Patriots prison rushed their offense with extracurriculars in the AFCCG and the Chiefs have adopted that style since (it seemed to really rattle the Ravens last year).
This kind of stuff is exactly why worrying about the Chiefs giving up 30 sacks the rest of the way is silly. The playoffs are a completely different animal.

Chiefspants 12-10-2024 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17852470)
This kind of stuff is exactly why worrying about the Chiefs giving up 30 sacks the rest of the way is silly. The playoffs are a completely different animal.
Their biggest concern may have been that Kingsley and Wayna couldn’t even hold properly.

htismaqe 12-10-2024 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17852493)
Their biggest concern may have been that Kingsley and Wayna couldn’t even hold properly.
LOL


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