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Marcellus 08-24-2023 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17070893)
What's goin on with Bosa in SF? They gonna pay him?

Yea, its his 2nd deal he is still young.

O.city 08-24-2023 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17070905)
Yea, its his 2nd deal he is still young.

Well, word is he wants 32-33 mil a year. So

Mecca 08-24-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17070878)
Posting pictures of yourself sitting on your ass and drinking water captioned "We out here working" was stupid.

Playing the bitch on social media is both unprofessional and stupid. Any vitriol this idiot and his agent receive is WELL DESERVED.

Mahomes took less to get you this ****ing deal, and now you're threatening to bitch out of half of it because you want more money.

Even if he reports week 1, he has put an image of himself out there, of his own volition, that he's not willing to honor the contract he signed, that the best ****ing player on the planet took less money in order for him to have it.

If Jones was making 8, 10 million per season, and was vastly underpaid, maaaaybe people could see it.

This ****er is set to make 20 million dollars. He ain't getting paid in chickenfeed and the guy has already pissed away millions in fines for failing to report.

He just comes off as greedy reerun that won't honor his contract, and revels in it on social media.

Everywhere you look that posts these idiotic messages Jones has posted, the overwhelming response in the comments is trade him, move on.

It's a page right put of Honey Vadger's playbook. It worked out well for him, hope the same happens for Chris.

What do you expect?

He has 2 rings and no matter how much less Mahomes took Mahomes career earnings are going to make Chris Jones look like a peon. The vast majority of players entire attitude is "get mine"

Wallcrawler 08-24-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17070912)
What do you expect?

He has 2 rings and no matter how much less Mahomes took Mahomes career earnings are going to make Chris Jones look like a peon. The vast majority of players entire attitude is "get mine"

Then get it elsewhere, AFTER you keep your word on the deal you happily signed the dotted line on.

suzzer99 08-24-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17070912)
What do you expect?

He has 2 rings and no matter how much less Mahomes took Mahomes career earnings are going to make Chris Jones look like a peon. The vast majority of players entire attitude is "get mine"

Plus Mahomes is the son of a 12-year MLB vet. His family probably isn't hurting for money. Jones is from a small town in Mississippi. He may have tons of mouths to feed.

Mecca 08-24-2023 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17070915)
Then get it elsewhere, AFTER you keep your word on the deal you happily signed the dotted line on.

He's going to use every bit of leverage he has because that's just what it is.

Do I logically think the Chiefs can pay him what he wants, no, but he doesn't care about that.

Rainbarrel 08-24-2023 09:01 AM

A wildcard SB win would be a nice addition to the Mahomes awards collection.

Wallcrawler 08-24-2023 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17070921)
He's going to use every bit of leverage he has because that's just what it is.

Do I logically think the Chiefs can pay him what he wants, no, but he doesn't care about that.

Get your 3rd ring, honor your word, boost your HoF bid, and try to finish the trip to canton chasing the biggest bag you can get.

But ****ing the team over on a great chance to repeat, when you're not being paid chickenfeed, and acting the reerun on social media, that's unnecessary.

warpaint* 08-24-2023 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17070921)
He's going to use every bit of leverage he has because that's just what it is.

Do I logically think the Chiefs can pay him what he wants, no, but he doesn't care about that.

It's a fool's errand. He'll never make up what he accrues in fines in the next contract be it here or elsewhere.

And no doubt you're right that he's doesn't care b/c pragmatic thinking ain't driving the bus rn.

Mecca 08-24-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17070937)
It's a fool's errand. He'll never make up what he accrues in fines in the next contract be it here or elsewhere.

And no doubt you're right that he's doesn't care b/c pragmatic thinking ain't driving the bus rn.

Which is why the odds of him actually missing real games isn't very high.

I'm pretty sure this is all dog and pony, trying to scare the Chiefs into paying him at best and at worst he basically is making it where he doesn't have to worry about a franchise tag.

duncan_idaho 08-24-2023 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by warpaint* (Post 17070937)
It's a fool's errand. He'll never make up what he accrues in fines in the next contract be it here or elsewhere.

And no doubt you're right that he's doesn't care b/c pragmatic thinking ain't driving the bus rn.

Depends on how high the fines get.

Right now, the fines he has accrued? He probably can make that up.

If he misses several games? No, probably not.

RaidersOftheCellar 08-24-2023 09:24 AM

I'd like to keep Jones, but it probably isn't worth 30+ mil/year. Everyone freaked about life after Tyreek Hill, and the offense got MORE efficient without him. Losing one player, even a really good one, isn't going to cripple this team.

I heard Orlovsky claim that the Chiefs will miss the playoffs if they don't have Jones for the first 7 weeks. What a load of crap. LMAO

KC's 5-2 in games in which Jones didn't play (not including the Matt Moore loss to Green Bay), with several impressive wins. I'm pretty sure they could survive less than half a season w/out him if it came to it.

I'm also confident that Veach can field a solid DL in '24, with or without Jones. If he has to attack it like he attacked the OL two years ago, so be it.

Spott 08-24-2023 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rainbarrel (Post 17070928)
A wildcard SB win would be a nice addition to the Mahomes awards collection.

Although I've loved having all of our playoff games at home since our last road contest in 2015 and hope it stays that way, it would be pretty cool to see Mahomes win a playoff game on the road.

O.city 08-24-2023 10:11 AM

Breer talked about it in his mailbag.

We’ve outlined the issue already. My sense has been for a while now that Jones wants a deal in the Aaron Donald neighborhood—which was, and remains, an outlier deal held against the rest of the market—and the Chiefs want to pay him along the lines of what Quinnen Williams and Jeffery Simmons got in extensions earlier this summer. It’s not unlike when Calvin Johnson Jr., nearly a decade ago, had an outlier receiver deal that made it difficult for guys like Dez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas to find middle ground with their teams.

In those cases, the sides wound up splitting the difference. Johnson was at $16 million per. The next receiver was around $12 million. Those two got around $14 million. Could such a compromise work in this case, say, around $27 million or $28 million per year? I’d think so, but there’s no indication, that I’ve gotten at least, that there’s been a whole lot of budging of late. Which means everyone is playing the waiting game.

I'm wondering if they end up at 27ish in the next couple days here.

Marcellus 08-24-2023 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17070910)
Well, word is he wants 32-33 mil a year. So

18.5 sacks last year.

43 sacks in 51 career games.

25 years old.

You comprehend now?


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