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Chris Meck 02-19-2019 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14113966)
:hmmm:

This does not make much sense. So the Defense will be getting off the field more and giving the Offense more chances to score- yet Mahomes is going to suddenly be mediocre?

We won't be running the 90's Chiefs offense.

Mahomes will be the first 50 /50 QB in the NFL.

I am calling it now.

uhhhh....35 TD's is nowhere near mediocre.

A decent defense could mean fewer TD passes and more running the ball, protecting big leads in the second half.

At any rate, it's not really realistic to expect Pat to put of 50 every year, I mean he's only the 3rd guy ever to do it period in the first place.

O.city 02-19-2019 12:49 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to franchise tag Dee Ford, keeping a talented rusher in the building, as they work through acquisition scenarios for their new 4-3 defense. <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/O3uRr69hTQ">pic.twitter.com/O3uRr69hTQ</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1097930657882357760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Kiimo 02-19-2019 12:50 PM

I mean, thanks Tom. But that's been expected all along.

htismaqe 02-19-2019 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14113966)
:hmmm:

This does not make much sense. So the Defense will be getting off the field more and giving the Offense more chances to score- yet Mahomes is going to suddenly be mediocre?

We won't be running the 90's Chiefs offense.

Mahomes will be the first 50 /50 QB in the NFL.

I am calling it now.

35 passing TDs is mediocre? ROFL

htismaqe 02-19-2019 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14114252)
uhhhh....35 TD's is nowhere near mediocre.

A decent defense could mean fewer TD passes and more running the ball, protecting big leads in the second half.

At any rate, it's not really realistic to expect Pat to put of 50 every year, I mean he's only the 3rd guy ever to do it period in the first place.

Exactly.

Lzen 02-19-2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14112881)
biggest problem right now is that we literally don't have a SAM on the roster.

I hear they're trying to make him a coach.

O.city 02-19-2019 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14114259)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to franchise tag Dee Ford, keeping a talented rusher in the building, as they work through acquisition scenarios for their new 4-3 defense. <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/O3uRr69hTQ">pic.twitter.com/O3uRr69hTQ</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1097930657882357760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">For weeks, this was the expected move for the Chiefs, who really value Dee Ford &amp; what he accomplished last season. Ford also anticipated this decision after the season ended. <a href="https://t.co/ie3YHkvVij">https://t.co/ie3YHkvVij</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1097932815096860678?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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seaofred 02-19-2019 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14114259)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to franchise tag Dee Ford, keeping a talented rusher in the building, as they work through acquisition scenarios for their new 4-3 defense. <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/O3uRr69hTQ">pic.twitter.com/O3uRr69hTQ</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1097930657882357760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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In the video they say the Chiefs Defensive staff was finalized last week. Wondering why nothing official has come from the Chiefs.

Frosty 02-19-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14114265)
35 passing TDs is mediocre? ROFL

The franchise record was 30, which stood forever. CP never fails to entertain.

Kiimo 02-19-2019 01:01 PM

Probably because if Spags has a conference he has to say what they expect Dee Ford to be in his new scheme. If he says DE the Chiefs have to pay him $2m more.

O.city 02-19-2019 01:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are going to be paying Dee Ford approximately $15.8 million on the tag. If they release Justin Houston, as is the likely outcome, they save $14 million.<br><br>In terms of cap space, they lose $1.8M under that scenario, leaving about $25M to pay draft class, free agents</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1097933540195557376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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TambaBerry 02-19-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14114309)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are going to be paying Dee Ford approximately $15.8 million on the tag. If they release Justin Houston, as is the likely outcome, they save $14 million.<br><br>In terms of cap space, they lose $1.8M under that scenario, leaving about $25M to pay draft class, free agents</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1097933540195557376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Or get rid of Ford and we have 15.8 million more

RunKC 02-19-2019 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14114259)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are expected to franchise tag Dee Ford, keeping a talented rusher in the building, as they work through acquisition scenarios for their new 4-3 defense. <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/O3uRr69hTQ">pic.twitter.com/O3uRr69hTQ</a></p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1097930657882357760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So this is the third time I have heard that the Chiefs are trying to figure out what to do with Justin Houston and Eric Berry since our season ended. First it was from Mellinger, then Rappoport and now Pelissero.

Something is happening with these guys. Idk what, but there’s too much smoke to think otherwise.

O.city 02-19-2019 01:04 PM

I'd imagine they'll go to them and ask about a restructure or lowering their money or they'll cut them.

Easier to do with Houston for sure.

htismaqe 02-19-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14114309)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are going to be paying Dee Ford approximately $15.8 million on the tag. If they release Justin Houston, as is the likely outcome, they save $14 million.<br><br>In terms of cap space, they lose $1.8M under that scenario, leaving about $25M to pay draft class, free agents</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1097933540195557376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Dee Ford is going to end up getting over $17M, he's a defensive end now.

As for the cap space, you factor in PPE and bonuses and another $3M disappears. $4-5M for rookies. Sign Tyreek Hill and Chris Jones and the rest of it is gone.

They're not signing any marquis free agents. They don't have any money to do so.


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