Yes. Would absolutely love a rolling roof. I literally will not consider going to a game past Oct 31st. With a rolling roof...I would and we could get a SB and more events. I know plenty of ppl who cancelled on the Billy Joel concert because it was 110 heat index.

Nobody is saying they want a dome. They want a retractable roof.

Poor people own TVs. They'll be fine.

IDK, if 3/8 cent in 2007 is approved to keep the teams here until 2031, it is not a crazy ask to keep it there on a new lease for a couple more decades.

For current times, it is an anamoly that it is county owned stadiums that one team prefers to stay in and the other teams wants to move but needs a deal with the county to move before 2031, and they just assumed that required continued relationship with county on new stadium.

If the Royals or Chiefs end up in new stadiums, they should seek to own the buildings and the only public ask is for Star bonds in Kansas or TIF in KCMO. Possibly another public ask could be deal on land or a 100 year lease like KC Current has.

I think those could be ways to get development financing incentives that do not require voters approving a new tax. The value of those incentives would end up being more dollars than the ask on extending the 3/8ths and teams would own their building. Use the tax collections from the venues to repay the financing for a couple decades.

Chiefs or KCMO taking ownership of Arrowhead from County might be the best move for Arrowhead. County would look pretty stupid owning Arrowhead as a concert venue and possibly a UFL team. County would probably have to rename the place.

TBH, Considering that the NFL team salary cap for players is $255 million and the players do not even get half of the earned team revenue. The Chiefs probably could build and own their own venue and remain profitable, especailly if the only public ask was the same incentives available to developers.

Things are getting chippy... :popcorn:

Any updates?

With the way the Royals are playing it's to bad the Vote wasn't next Tuesday...

The public doesn't want it. They voted overwhelmingly no in the last renovation that was on a separate ballot. Only candy asses want it. it's a good thing KCMO predominantly does not have sugar asses.

Yeah, KC weather isn't great by any means, but it's not nearly shitty enough for a dome. It's nice here for those 110° days and I'd never want to go to Lambeau during a cold front in January.... but, one -30° windchill night doesn't mean Arrowhead should have a dome (even if you could argue moving that one game).

The roof was a great engineering dream that later turned into an ingenious sacrificial compromise. Just like this latest vote the prior one was also debated with a lot of similar vote no arguments. What the roof vote did was give people their chance to vote no and tell the owners to shove it while feeling slightly better about voting yes on the extortion tax for their beloved team... a compromise.

Yeah, it is well known you are a pussy. That’s been established over and over. Football is made to be played outdoors. The elements are part of what makes the game great.

Ok great but merge that with it being a business that should be open more than a couple handfuls of days a year.

AND BWillie being a lil pussy.

So if 70% of fans say no to a dome and 30% of fans say we won't go to games in bad weather... Would the 70%, actually boycott a dome? I would guess, most would not.

As an owner you just write off 30% of potential sales?

And as already mentioned, the usefulness for things besides football the rest of the year.

But I do think outdoor teams, get a slight edge, so stay outside.

Are you just trolling with these straw men?

Do they? How?

I've never watched a September game and been like "****! I wish it was raining or freezing!" And I get just as much enjoyment in great weather games and dome games as I do cold weather games. Maybe even more cause teams can play to their fullest potential.

Let me clear it up for you. The variation in the elements is part ofwhat makes the game great.

I will never understand people wanting their team to win, but wanting the weather to make them play below their potential, because some caveman part of their brain thinks losing digits to frostbite makes them real men.

Imagine, having a penis so tiny that you need your football team to play "in the elements" to make you feel like a man. Pathetic.

It's not really that hard. We seem to play in the cold/snow/rain much better than many teams. Pat can "spin" it in anything. It gives us an advantage. The only reason this is an issue is because we are playing every year in late January. Games like the negative degree game this year are a once every 25 year occurence. The Dolphs had no chance.

We need to get a final four and to get that we need a DOME

We don’t *need* to get a final 4.

Football is a fall, New England climate sport.

Losing digits to frostbite?!?! ROFLROFL I’ve been to over 100 games at Arrowhead in all kinds of weather. Not once was my health in danger. And yes, I was at the Miami playoff game.

Or..... people enjoy being outside and know how to dress themselves for inclement weather? :shrug:

And in cold weather, that can be pretty dang small. :LOL:

I don't think it makes huge difference..., but

Dome teams having to play on the road outside in bad weather are probably at a slight disadvantage.

So it would be one thing if every team played in a Dome, but they don't.

Yes, I've watched live football in sub zero windchill and no, I'm not doing that anymore. Not that I'm going to KC games anyway.

Have they broken ground in Kansas yet?

Exactly and it's also worth it to not have field turf. Play on grass even if you have to paint it in wintertime.

Pat was seen out in a field near legends with a golden shovel marking the spot he wants his statue earlier today

Seeing as how tickets get dramatically cheaper and there are empty seats in the stadium, I think you're overestimating how much people "enjoy" being out in that weather.

Sure. But again, Pat can "spin" it in anything but he's at his pure best in good weather/indoor games when he has he and his receivers aren't limited by weather.

The Dolphins game was obviously extreme (and I already mentioned arguably one that could have been moved), but the vast majority of games are not.

Games where the Chiefs could have used a dome....
That torrential downpour game in the 90s
The -30° wind chill game
....then... uh.... there was that other Dolphins game a decade or so ago that I went to and froze my ass off, but I was also pretty unprepared for it. I got rained on once during a MNF game, and surprise, I got wet.

I'm sure a few games exist, but the vast majority of the time being outdoors is highly enjoyable, and sometimes that does mean buying the right gear so you don't freeze your ass off... and if you can't figure out how to stay warm when it's ~20° while living in the midwest, then yeah stay home.

LMAO

1988 says hello.

It's another level of adversity. It's rising to the challenge. It's looking at the guy across from you and knowing you will beat him even if it's 110 degrees, or -15, or raining, or if your hamstring is tweaked, or if your cleats aren't holding, or if you are throwing up because of the flu. It's knowing you are going to dig deeper than that other guy.

I don't understand your "playing below their potential" comment, to me the weather just brings another level of determination.

There is always indoor soccer and arena league football for the folks that believe perfect weather equates to ultimate performance.

Not only is this post just odd, it is factually incorrect at least in regards to the Chiefs.

In the Miami playoff game, which was the only one "losing your digits to frostbite" would apply to this past season, the Chiefs scored above their season average on offense and allowed a season low in points against (regular and post season). Explain to us how that is playing below their potential?

Don’t tell the SEC that

The average summer temps in KC last 4 years about 78F.

The Average winter temps in last 4 years is around 33F.

I think we can all survive.

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Interesting report I just read on the cancer of concrete report by Populus for the Royals. Seems Shyster Sherman has removed the report from Royals website and backing away. Just not trustful this organization.

I never believed that bs from the beginning.

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Not that we're there yet but if it happens what's wrong with the Royals moving out of JACO and giving JOCO or WYCO a few decades of being bullied/blackmailed by the Royals every few years?

Concrete cancer is in remission. Was at stage 4 just a couple of months ago but there’s been a miracle turnaround

Nothing ideally they both move to KS

Local news reported that Sherman has revived talks with NKC and Clay County. If I was them I'd tell him to go **** himself. Don't be used like this.

Shit...

He wants a downtown stadium where the trust fund 20 somethings can walk to and pay for $20 beers all night. He is going to take these offers and shop them around for a better deal.

Good I hope they end up in NKC that would be awesome for me and the views of the river and downtown would be incredible.

Royals in NKC. Chiefs at Legends. 12 mins either way for me from the stadiums. I can dig it

If it comes to that, sure. I'd never worry about the Chiefs, they play so few games and each is such a big deal with all the planning, where they play in the area means nothing. As for the Royals, because they don't appear to be genuinely committed to winning yin and year out (don't let their current record fool you, look at their past and look at how much of a cheap-ass they're CEO is), I don't think I'll go to many games. Neither team was ever the JACO Chiefs/Royals, they were the KC Chiefs/Royals, it goes the way you've described it'll be nice to have an option to attend a game while not being ass-raped by they team's owners every few years.

But KC will turn into Omaha if that happens!

KCMO home of the Current

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;Kansas City Manager Brian Platt said...the city is in talks with both teams and will take the lead on future negotiations, displacing Jackson County government from that role.<br><br>Platt suggested that the next deal for a downtown ballpark might not require a public vote....&quot;</p>&mdash; Royals Review (@royalsreview) <a href="https://twitter.com/royalsreview/status/1780266954701316149?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 16, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If anyone in Raytown has to drive to NKC or Legends, both teams might as well be in Omaha!

Who knew Quinton was an election denier

Taking the decision out of taxpayers' hands.


That'll go over well.

Hell ****ing yeah!

The vast majority of spending of public money is decided upon by our elected officials. Although it is funny how insanely conservative people are about a 3/8th cent sales tax while they think nothing of electing people who will spend money on all manner of other shit they care nothing about.

Yeah this all just means they're cutting Frank White out of the equation.

So you support election denial?

No. That's one of the reasons I'm glad this hasn't been on a KC ballot.

If the Mayor has to take it out of the irresponsible public’s hands in order to keep the Royals and Chiefs in the area then that’s what he should do.

Hopefully they eminent domain the Crossroads and slap that nice new ballpark there. Don’t give the tenants and the average sports hating citizen a chance to **** it up this time.

but Chiefs in Kansas! Kansas evil and bad!

I pray to gawd this type of stupidity is sarcasm...

Absolutley not.

The Chiefs and Royals leaving the area would be devastating for KC.

The mayor’s job is to protect the best interests of the city. Hopefully he and the city are willing to do whatever it takes to keep those assets in KC. Even if it means overriding the will of the misguided public.

It would be devastating for politicians and their ilk.

Okay but that's not what this would be. A failed vote in Jackson County means nothing to KC other than the city government now has to take action when they were probably hoping not to. Question 1 was not put to a vote by KCMO voters, it was just Jackson County. KC may have a different range of options in it's bag.

Stay in COMO you homo

What kind of people you think live in central Missouri? Have you ever been there? It's a complete shit hole

The tax wasn't the issue on the vote it will be paid anyway for 7 more years. The problem was with the ill-conceived planning.

That place is packed with gays. I’m surprised he ever leaves it tbh

Most of them died during COVID

You think homochiefsfan wears a mask while he eats dude ass??

Cuts a hole in the middle. Dude def has bottom energy

Feel like a KC only vote (for the Royals) would get crushed worse than the first one if everything else is the same

That's why I'm glad their considering options that don't put it to a vote.

Yep

Royals are watchable again so its the right thing to do

What could the city offer the Chiefs to stay? Where would the new stadium go? Cause they clearly don't want to stay in the TSC.

Well yea...it would not be the same.

What do you know that would be different?

Improved plans?

"Answering the tough questions?"

My point was if everything stayed the same, a KC only vote seems like it would lose again as they seemed to be the base with the biggest problem with the original plans because right now it seems like Sherman's wife sent a "you up?" text to Kansas and now the city wants to look into other options

I think the idea that continued talks with a different entity would just mean "the same plan" seems silly.

But I realize people around here think we have no leverage which is another premise I disagree with.

It was a hypothetical as part of the current discussion

I wasn't insinuating that's what should or would happen