The pick is certainly higher than I thought it would be, thanks to them sucking ass this year.

27 coming off his rookie contract is old?

It can go both ways. Remember when we traded Dee Ford to the 49ers for a second? We beat them in the Superbowl that year, which put it at the next to last pick in the second round. It's much better this time, but there's way too much variation in where it can bem

He looks old and is frequently hurt. It was a bad investment by a rebuilding Titans team.

That is old for the end of a rookie deal.

This is the main reason I thought Jones was a better sign.

As far as impact years left they both have about the same and Jones plays a far more important position.

The money side of things matters. Unfortunately. This guy will go down as one of my top 10 favorite Chiefs ever. An absolute Johnny on the spot baller! Think about having him right now going into the Playoffs. I don’t think any other DB in the league makes the play he made on Flowers to strip the ball on the goal-line. But, it is what it is. He gone

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CP wanted to keep him over Jones

A quick search tells me that Sneed has 55 M guaranteed and Jones has 95.

The idea that anyone wanted Sneed for the same price is ludicrous. And given KC's ability to draft and develop DBs, Sneed combined with injury concerns was probably never a priority.

After BV traded Hill and let OBJ walk, and after CJ sat out a game... I admit I thought it was more likely than not that BV and CJ would not get a deal done and CJ would go to some team that could pay more.

That doesn't mean I was cheering for that outcome. The best outcome obviously is resigning CJ and for KC to get their money's worth.

So far, so great.

Thank God, cuz the Faders were definitely trying to swoop in and give him a contract. That woulda sucked!

A corner with a bad knee has no future.

Jones might give us 2 or 3 more years. He's been unbelievably lucky with injuries.

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looks like as of this moment the 3-1 Titans are picking 2nd in every round based on Strength of Schedule. Is that correct? Next week the Pats play the Bills (a hard SOS) and the Titans get a little easier SOS vs the Texans. If both teams lose, would the tie break catapult the Titans to the #1 pick?

Is the gap in SOS too big to makeup with just one game?

The Bills should totally tank their game so their division rival doesn't get the #1 pick. Plus they would be improving KC's draft stock, which we know they love to do.

It's really immaterial. Pick 65 or 66 is really based on that teams needs and highly unlikely both teams are coveting the same player. That being said, we should be ecstatic that the Titans have sucked so bad this year, because 65-66 compared to 80-81 is a big difference.

I understand why the Chiefs made this trade. I also understand why some didn’t (and maybe still don’t) like it.

I had (and still have) zero idea why the Titans made this trade.

Their passing defense is near the top. But could be because their run defense is near the bottom.

Because they knew what they had with Will Levis! They got him Hopkins and Calvin Ridley. Time to compete!

Their division blows and they were deluded enough to think they could make a run at it.

Bout the only guess I got.

Sneed played 5 games this year, so it had little to do with him.

He deserved to get a big payday, and he did. Chiefs were not going to go very high on salary, with his knee ailments that also seemed to frequently flair up. I hated to lose him, like most on here, but Im happy he got a pay increase, and we just move on and rebuild.

I almost feel bad for the Titans. It should be clear at this point that trading for a good player from the Chiefs is almost always a losing proposition.

You have to start somewhere and a 27-year old playmaking shutdown CB is as good a place to start as any.

Looks bad now but if Levis hit it probably plays out very differently.

The Patriots ****ed the league this way for years.

But I will say that the Sneed in Tennessee story isn’t finalized just yet. Who knows? They may be good next year or the year after and justify the trade on their end.

They had enough other needs though.

The picks and cap space could’ve been spread out to address multiple needs.

Had Detroit made the same deal, I’d get it 100%. This was a move for a team that was a contender.

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Most contenders are smart though. So them not being in on Sneed probably should say something.

ROFL You’re probably right, but you never know!

The Chiefs are going to get more back than the Rams did trading Jalen Ramsey.

They got pick 77 and a JAG player. We are getting a top 71 pick LMAO

That's gonna be a perfect spot to take a really good prospect or use for trade ammo.

Thats literally my only explanation for this trade. They really thought Levis was going to explode on this league.

Three picks in the top 66 would help fill a lot of roster holes.

Stud Smith replacement incoming.

Titans officially have the first overall pick.

Chiefs get the 65th pick!

Throw 'em some beads

Will be cool to be picking 64 and 65

I think Bart Vatch is pretty decent at his job.

that's like the best possible outcome for us!

Nailed it, R****ed!

I'm not positive that it will be 65. There are other 3 win teams. I think that they rotate the first pick in each round with teams with first record don't they?

When do they do that? I haven’t seen that ever.

He's right.

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So, rotation with the Browns and the Giant's would make their 3rd round pick number 67 wouldn't it? First pick in round 1, 2 pick in round 2, 3 pick in round 3 ,then back to first pick in 4?

#66 on Tankathon

Giants in the spot ahead of us for this round. Hard to say how it ends up. I’m curious what 32+64+66 is worth. Love to restock
With three great picks, but according to chart it’s around 1120 points so mid-round 13/14ish.
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I read that as Left Tackle Overton, edge

Sweet!

An edge rusher called LT? Make the call Verch!!

Draft a stud corner with that 3rd round pick #fullcircle

I bet they use one of those picks in the 60s to move up in the first and then grade up from the other pick in the 60s to go get someone they love.

Trade up for franchise LT?...

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Vrabel must have run off the flaming thumbtacks logo. Nope just cut off

How far up do you have to go to get a franchise LT? It would probably take a trade much like we made to get Mahomes. This year's first and third along with next year's first could move us up signigicantly, but we'd need the right guy to target and a team that would trade with us. Teams seem pretty reluctant to trade draft picks with us (except Buffalo) and will probably be demanding a nice premium to make such a trade. Having the right guy available for such a trade might or might not happen too.

Damn, was thinking maybe we could go to the well one more time :D

I feel like this was the case in 2013 when we drafted 1st overall, it seems like another team - the faid maybe - had the same record and we swapped 1st and second places every round.

Thanks for posting this. I did not know the NFL did this. I had seen something showing NYG with the 1st pick of the 3rd round and just thought it was a mistake. This system makes total sense though.

Genuine question, is trading up for an earlyish 1st round LT worth it? I ask because I don't really know what the success/whiff rate on these highly rated college tackles are. Would it not be a better option to explore a trade similar to the 2021 Orlando Brown Jr deal if possible. Just not the actual Orlando Brown this time because I can't stand that fat sack of shit.

We've talked about tackles in the draft for years. About 75% of all the guys discussed have failed to become a serviceable tackle. A lot of them ended up as guards. Several of them are backups at best.

Trading up for a LT would be stupid.

That is the answer I expected but I couldn't be arsed to look up how every 1st round tackle in the last few years has fared. Cheers

The issue with trading up for a LT is you're gonna want to do it for a guy you think is an legit prospect. Those guys go really early.

Now if there's a guy they really like and they need to get to 21 or something? Sure, I'd trust them with that for sure

But we're at the point in this whole dynasty thing where, like NE did, we have to start getting value out of things others can't or won't.

We've done it with some Rb's and WR's and such, but if you're hope is "Hey lets get a guy like Joe Alt at LT" I'd probably think other thoughts

To get a true plug and play guy, you're talking about trading into the low teens, if not the top 10.

It would take a Mahomes-like trade to make that happen.

Trading up into the late teens/early 20's has about the same hit rate as staying put at the end of round one. Anything less than a blockbuster trade is basically throwing picks away.

I mean so far the returns on Morris and Kingsley are right what you'd expect out of 2nd and 3rd round OT's, that's the normal conclusion there.

Also as far as LT goes it's not like NE found LT's. they had Matt Light for like 13 years and when he was gone they traded up for Nate Solder.

We could always ask Joe's Dad if he'd come out of retirement for the fourpeat.

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Caught me before the edit. Posting from a phone is fraught with danger. LMAO

Everyone went all apeshit for Anton Harrison, he's currently at RT on a terrible team.

That's kinda the issue. Either keep bandaging it or go find a guy to put in there.

What you'd have to have is a player like McDuffie fall for some physical reason or something.

I'm skeptical that happens though.

Ain't that the truck.

Which is why you have to remain flexible in round one. If there is a difference maker in reach go up and get him. I don’t care if it’s an DT, Edge, CB, OT, or WR. Probably not doing that for a RB, LB, G, S, etc.

I'm kinda honing in on DT being picked pretty early. There's gonna be some good ones there for us.

Wouldn't mind that.

Wharton's earned a contract and we don't really have anything behind him. That said, we've seemed to have a bunch of opportunities to pick up another DT alongside Jones and have shown little interest in doing so.

Turner, Benton, Brooks, Harrison, Jones -- all guys taken on the mid-2nd day who we could've had pretty easily.

We just didn't seem to be interested at all. It just seems waaaaaaay down on their list of priorities.

Deone Walker...

Feels like a guy we'd look at in like the 5th or 6th round. And he obviously won't be there. May not be there at the end of the 2nd.

Not a penetrator and we just don't seem to put any value on guys like that at all.

"Hey, we have Nnadi -- what do we need another Nose for?"

I don't get it, but it just seems to be how we've operated, especially since we shifted to the 4-3 front.

The there was Christian Darrisaw

I'd love to see another pass rushing threat at DT, or a speed rusher from DE, but yeah, wouldn't bank on it. Frankly, I'd love to see a true NT that could just occasionally collapse the pocket, it'd be a massive upgrade on Nnadi being pushed 5 yards back every snap.

Drafting olinemen is mostly about talent development, the only plug and play tackles go in the top 15, everyone else has to be coached up and taught the position because the college game doesn't develop them.


It's also why it's way too early to give up on Kingsley, they drafted him knowing he was physically talented, but raw.

He's like literally the only one that has panned out. One of how many? Do I really need to make a list?

Harrison is a guy who caused me to just give up on evaluating OL.

I'm wrong. Whatever I think, it's wrong.

Because Harrison being mediocre to bad just makes zero sense to me. He seemed like SUCH an easy fit to be no worse than an average starting LT in the league.

I know nothing. I very clearly have no damn idea what I'm looking at with OL. And my excitement over Jordan Morgan and Kingsley this year further reinforced that.

It started to get more and more obvious as I kept doing the CP Mock Draft and got massacred on my score every time I took an OL and he went 4 rounds later than I expected. But then it's been confirmed by the fact that the guys I like who DID go early also ended up sucking.

I don't understand OL evaluation at all.

We are not expending draft capital to move up and take a gamble on a LT. We have picked LT projects twice recently. Veach is not picking another LT project.

Those picks in the bottom of the 2nd and top of the 3rd are very valuable to us. You can get quality starters at S/CB/DE/DT/O-line with those picks. We are going to lose at least 2 starters in those areas due to cap space and contracts. We need a "grunt" draft. Replenish the core.

Darrisaw is good but it's hard to say he panned out because he is ALWAYS hurt.

His games played goes 12, 14, 15, 7 and he is always dealing with some type of nagging injury.