Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743185)

Believe it or not, there is some gay posters in your forum and I bet they don’t appreciate it.

But since it’s “locker room talk” y’all get the green light to be homophobic and racist (nothing racist was said, just using it as an example of were is the line drawn).

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743185)

It saddens me that you wouldn’t let it fly IRL but are more than ok participating here. Believe it or not, there is some gay posters in your forum and I bet they don’t appreciate it.

But since it’s “locker room talk” y’all get the green light to be homophobic and racist (nothing racist was said, just using it as an example of were is the line drawn).

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14743190)

Just replace "It was John Wick's car they stole" with "The Chiefs offense is healthy and Mahomes is rolling".

DC's know.

Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14743208)

No need to white knight and give life lessons, new guy. There are gay posters in here who are open about their sexuality, prominent and well respected. We make fun of everything and everyone in here. It's the way it is. You want to be in your safe zone you can go back to your 49ers feelings forums.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743211)

The only thing at all that scares me is the time off.

You hate seeing a break when things are humming like this because it's the only shot the 49ers have to knock the Chiefs offense out of rhythm.

If the break doesn't build up rust, they'll score as many as they need to. The 49ers have a great front but the Chiefs OL, when healthy, can pass protect with the best of them. ESPECIALLY now that Mahomes has re-built his trust in them and isn't bailing out of pockets anymore. He's feel for pressure right now borders on supernatural.

My only concern is the built-in bye. If the Chiefs handle this time off correctly, they'll be in great shape.

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Just replace "It was John Wick's car they stole" with "The Chiefs offense is healthy and Mahomes is rolling".

DC's know.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743211)

The only thing at all that scares me is the time off.

You hate seeing a break when things are humming like this because it's the only shot the 49ers have to knock the Chiefs offense out of rhythm.

If the break doesn't build up rust, they'll score as many as they need to. The 49ers have a great front but the Chiefs OL, when healthy, can pass protect with the best of them. ESPECIALLY now that Mahomes has re-built his trust in them and isn't bailing out of pockets anymore. He's feel for pressure right now borders on supernatural.

My only concern is the built-in bye. If the Chiefs handle this time off correctly, they'll be in great shape.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743159)

I think a lot of folks are REALLY underestimating how well this offense is playing right now. And by 'this offense' I mean Patrick Mahomes.

They punted 3 times against TN. Once was because of the Kelce drop on 3rd down and it was the first drive of the game. The 2nd was the first drive out of the half and it was because of a Hill drop on 3rd down. The last was in garbage time when they were just trying bleed the clock.

In the Texans game they punted 4 times. 2 were because of drops by Kelce and Robinson, a 3rd in garbage time up 20. ONE came because of a rough drive and Mahomes trying to force a pass in to Tyreek Hill.

In 2 games there has been ONE drive that simply didn't work. In that span they had streak of 7 consecutive TD drives - 8 consecutive scoring drives (that's still unreal to even type) and a streak of 5 touchdowns in 6 drives.

49er fans - you haven't seen this. I know you keep trying to say "well we've faced [X] this year and they're a lot like the Chiefs because [Y]..."

No they aren't. Whatever mad-lib set of answers you have for why you think your defense has faced a test that even BORDERS on what this offense is doing can just be tossed out the window. Right now the only thing that slows this offense down is some sort of self-inflicted wound. If they execute, they're almost certainly going to score and it's almost certainly going to be 7.

The Chiefs offense is a machine of focus, commitment, sheer will. It will come for you and you will do nothing. Because you can do nothing.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14743220)

To your point about the offense rolling right now, I also think they’re due for a good start.

I’ll be shocked if we don’t get points on our first drive for the first time this postseason.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14743115)

Don't say I won't give you what you want.



I have watched the Niners play multiple times this year. Generally to root for losses to improve the Chiefs' second round pick in the upcoming draft. Whoops on that one.

This is a franchise - and especially this message board - that has seen every type of game manager possible. We may not be able to tell you exactly what a game manager is, but we know one when we see one. Garoppolo is one.

He's a good one - upper end. Similar to Jared Goff or Alex Smith during his days with Andy Reid (2017 Alex Smith is a good comparison with the dynamic run game and huge weapons at WR and TE). He's a top 10-15ish QB in the NFL.

But he doesn't scare people because we haven't seen him succeed at a high level when things are not lined up for him. Lots of QBs can look good with dynamic playcalling and weapons.

KC has also done really well - its best, actually - in its matchups with less mobile QBs, the category Garoppolo would fall into. Spagnuolo is creative at blitzing from anywhere/everywhere and disguising it very effectively.

This has worked against veteran QBs who are masters at diagnosing and shifting protection - guys like Tom Brady and Philip Rivers. That bodes well for making it worse against a more green QB like Garoppolo.



First, let me clarify something: There are no similarities between Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes, except for winning the MVP in their first full season as NFL starters. Jackson is a dynamic QB, but he's run first and needs to have specific circumstances to be effective as a passer.

That's not Mahomes. Russell Wilson is the best comparison, though Mahomes has more arm, if less perfect touch on his deep ball (Wilson does it best).

Imagine, for a second, that Russell Wilson, instead of Tyler Lockett and DK Metkalf and a bunch of dudes off the street, had played you this year with Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Mecole Hardman, and Travis Kelce. And then upgrade his OL several notches. And then throw in a RB who is a really dangerous receiver out of the backfield (Damien Williams).

Oh, and instead of having a conservative, unimaginative offense, imagine that it was called by one of the most creative, innovative offensive minds in the NFL in the past 25 years.

How would those 49/Seahawks matchups have gone?



This is a good point. How disciplined the Chiefs remain in the face of all the motion and window dressing the 49ers use is a critical matchup.

Frank Clark and Suggs are very disciplined at E and will do their jobs. Guys like Mike Pennel and Derrick Nnadi have done the same at DT/NT. Chris Jones has really improved in this area up front and has done a better and better job as the year has gone on of being dynamic while also maintainig his gaps.

The key/question is going to be at LB. That's an area where Reggie Ragland has been really good and hit his keys/responsibilities. Hitchens and Wilson have not been as consistent.

Ragland's insertion into the starting lineup and heavy use replacing Darron Lee has been a real key for the Chiefs improved run defense. That, along with Pennel playing heavily on early downs, has been a big part of the Chiefs improved run D.

Final point I'll make here: KC has the personnel to run something similar to what the Patriots did to the Rams (6-1). And even in that set could still be creative in only sending 4-5 and being unpredictable with it.



Thanks. Honestly, the deficits that have come in the Chiefs two playoff games have been more about the Chiefs' mistakes than what the defenses around them have been doing.

The first two drives against Houston ended on third-down drops that would have been easy conversions (Third drive was a legit stop, but that was the only one Houston had all game until clock-killing time).

Same with Tennessee. The first two stalled drives were both due to drops on 3rd (one by Kelce, one by Hill).

The 49ers will be more effective in actually earning stops than either of those teams were, IMO.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14743227)

I hope so. I wouldn't be surprised conversely if they came out a bit amped and took a drive or two to get settled in.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 14743223)

They were going against pretty lousy defenses, but the weather was also NOT helpful for a passing offense. If he somehow carves up a really strong Niners defense in route to a SB win, this is the GOAT playoff run by a QB. He has been sensational.

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14737875)

They'll be tough.

They've got an elite OL, elite TE, a stable of RBs with elite speed, and probably the best collection of individual pass rushing talent in the NFL.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14743236)

I've seen some people poo pooing his playoffs thus far because he's gone up against "lousy" defenses.

Yeah, **** that noise. It's the playoffs. If teams are that lousy in the playoffs, well, it's not the playoffs.

Those teams looked shitty because the offense is just that good. It's the 2013 Denver offense with Brett Favre at QB instead of a statue.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14743236)

I've seen some people poo pooing his playoffs thus far because he's gone up against "lousy" defenses.

Yeah, **** that noise. It's the playoffs. If teams are that lousy in the playoffs, well, it's not the playoffs.

Those teams looked shitty because the offense is just that good. It's the 2013 Denver offense with Brett Favre at QB instead of a statue.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14743239)

They just spent two weeks talking about the return of JJ Watt and how the Titans have a really good defense and Vrabel is a genius.

Of course the narrative changes after the fact.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743159)

I think a lot of folks are REALLY underestimating how well this offense is playing right now. And by 'this offense' I mean Patrick Mahomes.

They punted 3 times against TN. Once was because of the Kelce drop on 3rd down and it was the first drive of the game. The 2nd was the first drive out of the half and it was because of a Hill drop on 3rd down. The last was in garbage time when they were just trying bleed the clock.

In the Texans game they punted 4 times. 2 were because of drops by Kelce and Robinson, a 3rd in garbage time up 20. ONE came because of a rough drive and Mahomes trying to force a pass in to Tyreek Hill.

In 2 games there has been ONE drive that simply didn't work. In that span they had streak of 7 consecutive TD drives - 8 consecutive scoring drives (that's still unreal to even type) and a streak of 5 touchdowns in 6 drives.

49er fans - you haven't seen this. I know you keep trying to say "well we've faced [X] this year and they're a lot like the Chiefs because [Y]..."

No they aren't. Whatever mad-lib set of answers you have for why you think your defense has faced a test that even BORDERS on what this offense is doing can just be tossed out the window. Right now the only thing that slows this offense down is some sort of self-inflicted wound. If they execute, they're almost certainly going to score and it's almost certainly going to be 7.

The Chiefs offense is a machine of focus, commitment, sheer will. It will come for you and you will do nothing. Because you can do nothing.

Originally Posted by burt (Post 14743207)

For all you know, I may be gay.... I WILL not lower myself to homophobic humor, OR racist anything. I do admit to having gay and/or mixedish peeps in my family. But this being CP, I guess I will just continue to sadden you. I know these folks would accept my gay and mixedish family without hesitation. And me if I am gay.....

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743211)

The only thing at all that scares me is the time off.

You hate seeing a break when things are humming like this because it's the only shot the 49ers have to knock the Chiefs offense out of rhythm.

If the break doesn't build up rust, they'll score as many as they need to. The 49ers have a great front but the Chiefs OL, when healthy, can pass protect with the best of them. ESPECIALLY now that Mahomes has re-built his trust in them and isn't bailing out of pockets anymore. He's feel for pressure right now borders on supernatural.

My only concern is the built-in bye. If the Chiefs handle this time off correctly, they'll be in great shape.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14743155)

In base sets? Or passing downs? Last time I checked, Ford was playing primarily passing downs, about 1/3 of snaps.

Which Pro Bowl tackles would you say Bosa has made fools of? Brian Bulaga? The guy in Carolina who gave up 1/3 of Bosa's sacks in the regular season is JAG.

KC's interior line isn't physical in the run game. It's pretty strong in pass protection, unless lined up against Aaron Donald.

If the 49ers try to run a 4-man front with Dee Ford lined up on the inside, KC is going to run right at him. A lot. And really like it's chances of success in those situations.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14743236)

I've seen some people poo pooing his playoffs thus far because he's gone up against "lousy" defenses.

Yeah, **** that noise. It's the playoffs. If teams are that lousy in the playoffs, well, it's not the playoffs.

Those teams looked shitty because the offense is just that good. It's the 2013 Denver offense with Brett Favre at QB instead of a statue.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743185)

It saddens me that you wouldn’t let it fly IRL but are more than ok participating here. Believe it or not, there is some gay posters in your forum and I bet they don’t appreciate it.

But since it’s “locker room talk” y’all get the green light to be homophobic and racist (nothing racist was said, just using it as an example of were is the line drawn).

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743249)

The only difference between the lousy Texans/Titans defenses and the 49ers is the respective front 4s.

That 49ers secondary is no better equipped to deal with Mahomes than either of those units.

And as has been noted already, Mitchell Schwartz is like a designated superstar DE destroyer. His existence on this earth seems to be to do nothing but shut down All-Pro defensive ends. So yeah, I'm fine saying the Schwartz will effectively shut down 1/2 of that set of bookend DEs.

So now the only real concerns are 1) Can Fisher hold up his end of the bargain? And 2) Can the IOL do enough to slow down Buckner and then the inevitable Bosa/Armstead reps when they get kicked inside on passing downs and/or utilize twists/stunts to get themselves isolated on the interior linemen?

Wiz is so much better at identifying those things than Wylie was that I'm more comfortable w/ the loops and delayed blitzes. LDT and Reiter have also been pretty adequate in pass-pro of late. Not so bad that I think they'll set about torpedoing entire halves of play like they did at previous points of the season.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743249)

The only difference between the lousy Texans/Titans defenses and the 49ers is the respective front 4s.

That 49ers secondary is no better equipped to deal with Mahomes than either of those units.

And as has been noted already, Mitchell Schwartz is like a designated superstar DE destroyer. His existence on this earth seems to be to do nothing but shut down All-Pro defensive ends. So yeah, I'm fine saying the Schwartz will effectively shut down 1/2 of that set of bookend DEs.

So now the only real concerns are 1) Can Fisher hold up his end of the bargain? And 2) Can the IOL do enough to slow down Buckner and then the inevitable Bosa/Armstead reps when they get kicked inside on passing downs and/or utilize twists/stunts to get themselves isolated on the interior linemen?

Wiz is so much better at identifying those things than Wylie was that I'm more comfortable w/ the loops and delayed blitzes. LDT and Reiter have also been pretty adequate in pass-pro of late. Not so bad that I think they'll set about torpedoing entire halves of play like they did at previous points of the season.

Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 14743246)

If CJ were totally healthy, I agree with you BUT this 2 weeks off only helps Jones and those who have been ill. And let's not forget our opposition who I feel the rust build up will be greater for them especially on offense.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14743258)

There has been such a noticeable difference with Wis in there that i'm fully on board with a first round LG now. It's just been night and day.

The 9er DL is really good for sure. It's scary. But it's not the 85 Bears.

It's a really good matchup. We have the boogeyman under center, so.....yeah,.....I'll take my chances.

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14743252)

Sorry, we made you sad. Make sure to use your pooper ap so you don't step in any shit on your way back to the gay bathhouse. :deevee:

Originally Posted by Clyde Frog (Post 14743208)

No need to white knight and give life lessons, new guy. There are gay posters in here who are open about their sexuality, prominent and well respected. We make fun of everything and everyone in here. It's the way it is. You want to be in your safe zone you can go back to your 49ers feelings forums.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743159)

I think a lot of folks are REALLY underestimating how well this offense is playing right now. And by 'this offense' I mean Patrick Mahomes.

They punted 3 times against TN. Once was because of the Kelce drop on 3rd down and it was the first drive of the game. The 2nd was the first drive out of the half and it was because of a Hill drop on 3rd down. The last was in garbage time when they were just trying bleed the clock.

In the Texans game they punted 4 times. 2 were because of drops by Kelce and Robinson, a 3rd in garbage time up 20. ONE came because of a rough drive and Mahomes trying to force a pass in to Tyreek Hill.

In 2 games there has been ONE drive that simply didn't work. In that span they had streak of 7 consecutive TD drives - 8 consecutive scoring drives (that's still unreal to even type) and a streak of 5 touchdowns in 6 drives.

49er fans - you haven't seen this. I know you keep trying to say "well we've faced [X] this year and they're a lot like the Chiefs because [Y]..."

No they aren't. Whatever mad-lib set of answers you have for why you think your defense has faced a test that even BORDERS on what this offense is doing can just be tossed out the window. Right now the only thing that slows this offense down is some sort of self-inflicted wound. If they execute, they're almost certainly going to score and it's almost certainly going to be 7.

The Chiefs offense is a machine of focus, commitment, sheer will. It will come for you and you will do nothing. Because you can do nothing.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743159)

I think a lot of folks are REALLY underestimating how well this offense is playing right now. And by 'this offense' I mean Patrick Mahomes.

They punted 3 times against TN. Once was because of the Kelce drop on 3rd down and it was the first drive of the game. The 2nd was the first drive out of the half and it was because of a Hill drop on 3rd down. The last was in garbage time when they were just trying bleed the clock.

In the Texans game they punted 4 times. 2 were because of drops by Kelce and Robinson, a 3rd in garbage time up 20. ONE came because of a rough drive and Mahomes trying to force a pass in to Tyreek Hill.

In 2 games there has been ONE drive that simply didn't work. In that span they had streak of 7 consecutive TD drives - 8 consecutive scoring drives (that's still unreal to even type) and a streak of 5 touchdowns in 6 drives.

49er fans - you haven't seen this. I know you keep trying to say "well we've faced [X] this year and they're a lot like the Chiefs because [Y]..."

No they aren't. Whatever mad-lib set of answers you have for why you think your defense has faced a test that even BORDERS on what this offense is doing can just be tossed out the window. Right now the only thing that slows this offense down is some sort of self-inflicted wound. If they execute, they're almost certainly going to score and it's almost certainly going to be 7.

The Chiefs offense is a machine of focus, commitment, sheer will. It will come for you and you will do nothing. Because you can do nothing.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14743244)

Dammit, you're gay? Now I really have to hate you.

Shit, this monthisn't good for me. Can I hate you in March? Like around the 19th?

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14743268)

One thing to think about guys, I know that 49ers front 4 is scary, but it’s not something we haven’t deal with before.

I know it fell apart, but you guys have to remember we played a Jags defense week 1 that had Ngakoue, Campbell, and Allen up front with Ramsey and Bouye in coverage.

While the 49ers front 4 is deeper and better, there’s no question that Ramsey and Bouye are worlds better than and old Richard Sherman and nobody else.

The 49ers have better safeties, but nothing scary by any means. They also both run a similar scheme.

I also think it helps going up against Bosa and Ingram twice a year. Again, not as good of a front 4, but a much tougher matchup in the secondary.

Our OL is definitely better than it was week 1. As long as they don’t shit the bed, they along with Mahomes/Reid should be able to weather the storm.

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14743228)

- Jimmy G and Game Management: Key games to counter this would be Steelers, coming back from a five turn over deficit and going toe-to-toe with Drew Brees and the Saints. Many point to his turn overs on the stat line but a lot of those were due to deflections from our WRs (drops seem to have gone down since benching Pettis and adding Sanders). I get why people think he is a game manager as that is what most games show, but that is all that is being asked of him, not what he is capable of. As the year went on the playbook opened up and Jimmy progressed significantly. After the Baltimore game (with the exception of the Saints) it seems like Shanahan had a focus on ball control in the latter quarter of the year. Why throw if you cant stop the run? Why open the playbook in the playoffs if the game doesn't dictate it? I think this game will require Jimmy to throw and prove one of our points (my guess is this is your defensive plan and they will be ready).

- PM, I stated he was most like Wilson. But was only pointing out we have experience in dual threat qb's which both PM and Lamar fall under that category.

- No sense in speculating on what match-ups would have been with the 'ifs'. Obviously different, but our divisional games against Seattle are always battles. Pete Caroll's head is being called for, no argument there. I actually now live outside of Seattle so I am surrounded by the noise (yes, another place with homeless people who sh*t on the floor but not at quite the volume as SF)

- Andy Reid is a solid coach, mainly because he came from a Niner pedigree :), but with 25 years he has a lot on tape that can be studied and game planned against.


- If you have a weakness at LB that is going to be trouble for you. Mossert went wild because of what he did in the second and third levels. The zone blocking that the Niners use will be studied for the next few years in the NFL as people try to figure out the best recipe to deny it regularly.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743276)

How many post are required to white knight and to give life advice?

Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 14743287)

It’s my understanding that zone blocking came from daddy, so nothing new about that Andy will have it figured out no sweat

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14743242)

That's what I just kinda laugh at and frankly, don't give a shit about anymore. Why anyone listens to the SKip Bayless's of the world with all the podcasts and things out there is beyond me.

Anyone that said Derek Henry was more important than Patrick Mahomes before the game, is a ratings shock jock or an idiot. Both should be ignored.

Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14743259)

I think a big difference is with our linebackers. Warner, Kwon, and Greenlaw are all excellent pass defenders.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743009)

If we win, am I still allowed back or will I get banned?

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14743252)

Sorry, we made you sad. Make sure to use your pooper ap so you don't step in any shit on your way back to the gay bathhouse. :deevee:

Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14743280)

We've seen Lamar, and we've seen Wilson. So while we haven't seen Mahomes other than in the preseason, we've seen more of your style than you've seen of ours.

The Chiefs haven't seen our running attack. Which I may add has only started rounding into shape because key players were missing all season. They're only now back in the lineup and getting their legs under them. No Tennessee and their basic hand it off to Henry and let him go doesnt count.

You haven't seen our scheme, motion, deception.

You also haven't seen our physicality. The West is no joke.

Both teams will be able to move the ball and score - It's going to depend on turnovers and who can score TD's instead of FG's. It'll be a battle of the 49er systematic machine vs the offensive speed and improvisational Chiefs.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743276)

How many post are required to white knight and to give life advice?

Originally Posted by Beef Supreme (Post 14743312)

yeah guize, nobody has ever seen zone blocking before! They will be studying this brand new concept for years to come!!

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14743248)

My bad for the late response, actually had to do some work and eat, F*ing bosses don't respect the SB as much as they should.

Yes, passing downs mainly. But this was in response to him lining up over tackle.

Bosa: Villenueva, Bhakatari, Bulaga, Armstead

Originally Posted by BangbangNinerGang (Post 14743228)

- Jimmy G and Game Management: Key games to counter this would be Steelers, coming back from a five turn over deficit and going toe-to-toe with Drew Brees and the Saints. Many point to his turn overs on the stat line but a lot of those were due to deflections from our WRs (drops seem to have gone down since benching Pettis and adding Sanders). I get why people think he is a game manager as that is what most games show, but that is all that is being asked of him, not what he is capable of. As the year went on the playbook opened up and Jimmy progressed significantly. After the Baltimore game (with the exception of the Saints) it seems like Shanahan had a focus on ball control in the latter quarter of the year. Why throw if you cant stop the run? Why open the playbook in the playoffs if the game doesn't dictate it? I think this game will require Jimmy to throw and prove one of our points (my guess is this is your defensive plan and they will be ready).

- PM, I stated he was most like Wilson. But was only pointing out we have experience in dual threat qb's which both PM and Lamar fall under that category.

- No sense in speculating on what match-ups would have been with the 'ifs'. Obviously different, but our divisional games against Seattle are always battles. Pete Caroll's head is being called for, no argument there. I actually now live outside of Seattle so I am surrounded by the noise (yes, another place with homeless people who sh*t on the floor but not at quite the volume as SF)

- Andy Reid is a solid coach, mainly because he came from a Niner pedigree :), but with 25 years he has a lot on tape that can be studied and game planned against.


- If you have a weakness at LB that is going to be trouble for you. Mossert went wild because of what he did in the second and third levels. The zone blocking that the Niners use will be studied for the next few years in the NFL as people try to figure out the best recipe to deny it regularly.

Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 14743287)

It’s my understanding that zone blocking came from daddy, so nothing new about that Andy will have it figured out no sweat

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743326)

But have you seen how physical they are?

They really should've told us we'd have to play a team from the NFC when they changed the rules to make the AFC playoffs a flag football format.

Frank Clark's gonna be pissed when he finds out the Super Bowl isn't two-hand touch.

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14743332)

The Titans fans all warned us about how physical they were compared to us. How’d that ****ing turn out?

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14743329)

You're fine. It's a lighter day than normal here.

Bosa had a grand total of 2 sacks and 4 TFL in the four games he played against those three teams/four tackles. I wouldn't really call that making fools of them. Schwartz and Fisher compare with any of them (And I'd take Schwartz at RT over anyone in the NFL).

If the 49ers come out and try to use Dee Ford inside on regular downs, or even if they come out and just try to use him on early downs, I expect KC to run right at him and exploit his one-dimensional nature. Will be interesting. Look for 21 personnel if KC is seeing Ford, with Blake Bell assigned to deal with Ford and free up Fisher/Schwartz to get to the second level.

^ 21 also seems to be KC's favored grouping for screen game action. They'll use Kelce or Bell as well as Williams in the screen game, and will run action to both sides of the field.



The game against the Saints is definitely the biggest counter to the "just a game manager" tag for Garoppolo. It's the one that really stands out.

But like I was saying, we've got 40 years of history watching game managers and seeing them occasionally have that one shining moment. All those things you just said in his defense? They're things Chiefs fans have been saying prior to Mahomes about every guy except Montana and Green.

Thus, they ring hollow/false. I know the 49ers played that Baltimore game in bad passing conditions, but they win that game with a few more plays in the passing game from Garoppolo.

The other game you cited was a home win against a non-playoff team quarterbacked by Mason Rudolph, in which Garoppolo never trailed by more than one score, threw for a pedestrian yardage total, and threw two picks that led to 6 points for the opposing team.

You understand why that doesn't make the case for being more than a guy who leans on his D and run game, right?

Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14743280)

It'll be a battle of the 49er systematic machine vs the offensive speed and improvisational Chiefs.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14743335)

Why do they always bring up physicality? Is it written somewhere that an AFC team can't be physical?

Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 14743351)

Andy’s not dialing up designed QB runs. Mahomes will run if there’s an opening and he has the ability to throw on the run. Not sure why Niner fans are coming in here with Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray comparisons. Mahomes is way, WAY different.

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14743349)

Improvisational Chiefs?

LMAO

Mahomes is a surgeon.

You'll just have to learn like so many before you.

Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14743259)

I think a big difference is with our linebackers. Warner, Kwon, and Greenlaw are all excellent pass defenders.

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14743356)

No people think we’re soft because we’re a passing team and they think it’s the same defense from last year and the first half of this season.

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14743272)

It’s ok. I’m better now. Thank you for your concern. As far as Burp, I’m glad this is s as learning experience for you.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14743335)

Why do they always bring up physicality? Is it written somewhere that an AFC team can't be physical?

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14743369)

Soooo . . . they're ignorant and uninformed?

Originally Posted by Deebo19 (Post 14743259)

I think a big difference is with our linebackers. Warner, Kwon, and Greenlaw are all excellent pass defenders.

Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14743366)

Reid is anything but improvisational. The man is a tactician who schemes and plans like nobody's business.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14743355)

Harold Landry has 9 sacks this year. Jurrell Casey is a top 10 interior rusher and Jeff Simmons is a very talented 1st rd interior rusher.

We shut them down completely. The only reason they hit Mahomes the few times they did was bc Pat held onto the ball too long.

The OL has been so goddamn good the last 2 games. They haven’t had a performance as good as those two games all season.

If these guys keep playing that way, we’ll beat the Niners by double-digits.

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14743377)

Neither the Texans nor the Titans are exactly short for ILB talent. Jayon Brown might be the best coverage backer in football this year.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14743354)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB Grades in the Conference Championships<br><br>• PATRICK MAHOMES: 96.1<br>• Jimmy Garoppolo: 61.7<br>• Aaron Rodgers: 60.2<br>• Ryan Tannehill: 56.3<br><br>��: Jeff Curry, USA Today<a href="https://t.co/eQoKvEmIss">https://t.co/eQoKvEmIss</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/B3EJxXVdlp">pic.twitter.com/B3EJxXVdlp</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1219663180399620097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14743368)

What caused you to lose the 4 games? What was the match up against you? Team that played well against you? Injuries you had and so on?

Why did you lose the games you lost this year? What were the toughest match ups and why?

:hmmm:

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14743387)

They can't compare to the 49ers LB's. They run as fast as DB's. They cover well too. We have great speed at the 2nd level. And great power and pass rush at the 1st level.

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14743354)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">QB Grades in the Conference Championships<br><br>• PATRICK MAHOMES: 96.1<br>• Jimmy Garoppolo: 61.7<br>• Aaron Rodgers: 60.2<br>• Ryan Tannehill: 56.3<br><br>��: Jeff Curry, USA Today<a href="https://t.co/eQoKvEmIss">https://t.co/eQoKvEmIss</a><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/B3EJxXVdlp">pic.twitter.com/B3EJxXVdlp</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1219663180399620097?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 21, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14743387)

They can't compare to the 49ers LB's. They run as fast as DB's. They cover well too. We have great speed at the 2nd level. And great power and pass rush at the 1st level.

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14743368)

What caused you to lose the 4 games? What was the match up against you? Team that played well against you? Injuries you had and so on?

Why did you lose the games you lost this year? What were the toughest match ups and why?

:hmmm:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743394)

A battered OL, an injured MVP and ultimately some reeruned special teams play.

I regret to inform you that you're not getting the first two and I'm not convinced the 3rd will matter.

Originally Posted by R Clark (Post 14743243)

Damn I hope you know what your talking about , I feel a hell of a lot more confident after reading it!

Originally Posted by SanDiego49er (Post 14743405)

We were a beat up team in our losses. We had huge losses in the 2nd half of the year in the front 7, offensive line and of all things the starting kicker. That's how we lost 3. We are more healthy now. Our backup kicker missed a game winner against Seattle. He kicked it down the tunnel instead of through the uprights. That was one of our losses.

We are more healthy now in the playoffs. A lot of our guys have come back from injuries. We are more full strength on offensive line, defensive front 7 and special teams too.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14743398)

Someone has no idea who Jayon Brown is.

If you're honestly hand-waiving that guy in favor of Dre ****ing Greenlaw, you really don't have much to say.

Jayon Brown is a stud. And he was rendered ineffective on Sunday.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14743329)

You're fine. It's a lighter day than normal here.

Bosa had a grand total of 2 sacks and 4 TFL in the four games he played against those three teams/four tackles. I wouldn't really call that making fools of them. Schwartz and Fisher compare with any of them (And I'd take Schwartz at RT over anyone in the NFL).

If the 49ers come out and try to use Dee Ford inside on regular downs, or even if they come out and just try to use him on early downs, I expect KC to run right at him and exploit his one-dimensional nature. Will be interesting. Look for 21 personnel if KC is seeing Ford, with Blake Bell assigned to deal with Ford and free up Fisher/Schwartz to get to the second level.

^ 21 also seems to be KC's favored grouping for screen game action. They'll use Kelce or Bell as well as Williams in the screen game, and will run action to both sides of the field.



The game against the Saints is definitely the biggest counter to the "just a game manager" tag for Garoppolo. It's the one that really stands out.

But like I was saying, we've got 40 years of history watching game managers and seeing them occasionally have that one shining moment. All those things you just said in his defense? They're things Chiefs fans have been saying prior to Mahomes about every guy except Montana and Green.

Thus, they ring hollow/false. I know the 49ers played that Baltimore game in bad passing conditions, but they win that game with a few more plays in the passing game from Garoppolo.

The other game you cited was a home win against a non-playoff team quarterbacked by Mason Rudolph, in which Garoppolo never trailed by more than one score, threw for a pedestrian yardage total, and threw two picks that led to 6 points for the opposing team.

You understand why that doesn't make the case for being more than a guy who leans on his D and run game, right?