Foles best season I Philly was in chip Kelly's system though.

They are godawful on both sides of the ball right now and Kap's QB rating took a nose dive right when Harb's left.

That is very true. Chip kelly's 1st season was foles best year...but he had a big drop off after the 1st season (in certain aspects of his game). He didnt do as well chip kelly's second season.

The last season of Reid's was a disaster for Philly as a whole...so I'm not sure that we can even look at those 6 games as anything meaningful since that was a sinking ship

I also dont know alot about the differences between Kelly's system in PHI and Reid's here in kc...

It just seems like that Rams year/partial year is an anomaly more than anything ...just by the numbers

I can probably provide a bit of insight as I watched every Rams game last year. First of all it's hard to compare anything that happened in Philly or will happen in KC to his time with the Rams. The offenses (if you want to call what Fisher runs an offense) are just waaay too different. People here that complain about Smith/Reid being conservative should watch the Rams for a while.

With that said having watched Foles for all of last season plus the Rams played Philly in '14 he is very high risk/high reward. That throw to Hill is something I've seen a lot from Foles. Just wind up & throw it as high as you can & hope your WR catches it.

What I will say regarding his time in StL he actually played pretty well the 1st couple games although his stats didn't really show it. He had a few drops from his WR's & most of his time as a starter was before Gurley started playing. He started attempting to do too much & his play went downhill.

It's similar, as both are their own versions of the WCO.

Pat Shurmur, Philly's OC at the time under Kelly, worked with Reid from 1999-2008.

Those same fans are clamoring for Alex Smith today.

I know because I'm friends with many die-hards and receive notes from them all the time.

Fans are very often just outright dumb.

I think the biggest difference is just the pace in which Kelly runs the offense.

No. Theyre not. I live here..trust me...I'm not sure who youre friend is, but he is in a minority...you live like 500 miles south in Rams country...Im here in sports bars and talking to real fans daily...season ticket holders...

The team is in ruins and they would rather have KC's team than SF's right now but to say theyre clamoring for alex smith ot that alex smith would be the solution in SF is not true to even the slightest degree.

Jesus. They're going to get him killed.

Foles' ability to change the way teams defend KC is undeniable. A qb that is that big of a deep threat could open up everything underneath that Reid loves so much. Of course, if his accuracy in the short game doesn't improve, it could all be for nothing. And the big unknown is ball security. Does opening up the offense at the cost of increased turnovers balance out? Will there even be a sizeable increase in turnovers?

Probably too many variables for Foles to get a legit shot in any way other than winning the job after an extended absence for Smith due to injury. That doesn't appear to be happening.

For the most part, no.. Some have remarked that they do, but the majority of 49ers fans have this train of thought:

Even though they all realize he is better than what they have, they also believe the team roster is a burning pile of shit. These people don't believe Alex would be enough anyway, due to the terrible defensive situation and underwhelming pass weapons. On that, they are probably right.

So no. Many do not want an expensive, 32 yr old QB that isn't a gunslinger. Fans get VERY dug in on their opinion, and adored the "promise" of Kaepernick. So those people would never admit that Alex is better today, or admit that SF made a mistake.

Dude, it's not just "one" person, it's dozens. Hell, someone even asked me in a Facebook note last week "Can we have Alex Smith back?".

I guess your experience is different than mine.

Two vastly different questions

1. Whether they think should have stayed with Alex
2. Whether they want Alex back starting right this moment.

9ers are aways away from respectability. Even without the history, they are probably best off starting new.

I guess so since I live here and know people with season tickets and my wife is a die hard niners fan, and I go to a sports bar at least 2-3 times a week...and most of my friends are die hard niners fans including both of my best friends...and most people I work with are either niner or raider fans....

Not to get technical but the exact quote I had a problem with was that they are 'clamoring' for alex smith to come back.

100% false..end of story...i live here. Its not true.

Of course 49ers fans want Alex back. He's literally the only enjoyable football they've had since Jeff Garcia.

Doesn't make them right. If they had suffered through years of mediocre QBs we have, instead of total shit ones, they'd be glad he was gone.

Makes it a lot easier to settle for mediocrity in the present when you have case full of Lombardis.

What? So the 49ers fan base consists of people that only live in the Bay Area?

Come on, man. That's silly.

And yes, all of them are "die hards" and go to the games as well.

Subjective gerunds generally aren't true or false.

itching? grousing? grumbling? half-heartedly whining?

My sense is 'clamoring' was used for rhetorical emphasis, not as a doctoral thesis.

I live smack dab in the Bay Area as well and I'm telling you the majority doesn't give a crap about Alex the fan base went with his growing pains before Harb and seeing an explosive offense under kap was well worth the risk for most niner fans

I don't blame them, just sharing my experience

49er fans would have burned the god damn stadium down if Kap didn't get the starting job the following year. Even with hindsight it was the right move.

well none of the above, as a matter of fact

they come 500 miles for the games?

I dunno maybe the hollywood types just like Alex alot...like sandy cheeks, Tiger Uppercut, Mav kindof people...

The people I live near and work with -- white collar, blue collar , sports bars, on the street...at work....at dinner,,,...everyone...they all laugh at alex smith and rib me about it ....literally no one I talk to has mentioned any desire to have him back recently...

I hear more people wishing Tomsula was still the coach..and I am not making that up. People obviously get that the team is in transition right now but LITERALLY no one is currently clamoring for alex smith thinking he could/should be apart of the transition. Period.

I live in the central val... it's 50/50 on having alex back. Salty memories for many.. better option than Kap or Gabby. We all miss a stable condition at QB..

Those mfer's should be burned at the stake.

Sure man, it's an hour flight! No reason to drive 500 miles (BTW, I hate that drive).

I said last year that some of my 49er friends thought that Tomsoula would be better than Harbaugh and people thought I was making it up.

Again, fans are often dumb.

The stupidity of those fans are embarrassing. Tomsula couldn't even have himself a coherent press conference.. let alone lead a group of men or game plan competently

Looks like Foles could have had a third TD pass against the Colts. Clean up in film study and hit it next week, buddy.

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I hate it too...our little airport (STS) flies to LA now daily (alaska airlines) so I am stoked....if I ever need to go down there its easy.

The airfare has dropped a bit, too. $149 from Sac to Burbank, RT.

I wish it would get back to $99 but I'll take it at $149.

Tomsula was a part of the game planning for the 49ers when they were a decent defensive unit.

Nobody trusts your takes Jesus you could not be more wrong. That organization went to shit after Kaep became the guy. Nobody had his back, his coach broke trust wth the players.

Damn you are stupid

he was dline and had the beast known as Justin Smith

It's not like the 49ers were known for using a variety of stunts/games and fronts during Tomsula's time as a DL coach.

Oh wait.

He was the McGuyver of hobos, though.

Could forge costume jewelry for resale at the swap meet in a trash can fire.

Pawn was subtly making clear that his intel was gleaned from morons.

Not like like they had a paid Defensive coordinator who was lead in that category.. oh wait.

If most Niners fans still think Kaep was the right move, they're ****ing idiots that deserve what they have

He has regressed badly every single year since being named the starter and ultimately led them to the shitshow all of those fans are now leading actors in

Smith is anything but sexy, yet he is Football God ruling the world from his ethereal perch in the cosmos, compared to Kaep

true.. him living in his car at one point is a testament to his will power. lol

Honest question, professional male secretary.


Do you think that most DCs are the ones that primarily focus on run/pass games (stunts) on a weekly basis?

Or do you think that emphasis might fall to say, the position group coach that has more interaction in those areas?

it's a trick, Rob! The prancing peacock of football knowledge is gunning for you.

pretty feathers, though...

The answer is still no. Smith is the better of the two QBs.

You have to know that Smith will be starting since he didn't have a concussion on either play.

NFL teams are ****ing liars when it comes to concussions.

Do you think the UNC is a liar as well?

Not necessarily true...

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Edit: Didn't see it addressed. Ignore.

Anyone on the NFL payroll is only going to act in the NFL's interest.

Put it this way: when Alex Smith suffers another concussion this year, no one will be shocked.

I'll be totally honest... how Smith took those two shots and didnt come away with a concussion is some kind of freak thing that I'll never quite understand

But when independent neurologists agree that he didnt have one, who are we to argue?

The only other thing that makes any sense, I posted about it last night and Dane raised the idea again today... is that Smith somehow fooled the hell outta those doctors, which would seem pretty damn hard to do

I mean, he could've collected himself well enough to answer questions coherently and otherwise appear alert and ready... but there is surely far more to those tests than things like that... pupil dilation tests, motor skills tests etc

So your "expert opinion" is predicated on what moronic fans want?

Solid plan.

Yet you would produce the same GIF of Alex on that play and shit all over 27 threads talking about how horrible he is.

Transparent Troll is transparent.

Foles is an unknown commodity with potential upside. Mistakes can be tolerated in a week off the bench.

Especially when he was otherwise scintillating.

Foles is known. He's known well.

It's possible that Alex is smart enough to sway determination, or slow play the baseline.

It's possible he's fuzzy as **** and headachey as hell, and still has the faculties to answer orientation questions.

I don't think a guy with 35 starts to his name has reached his peak.

Did you not read dumb ass fan's would have burned down candelstick if kapernick didn't start that season

I'm saying niner fan's don't miss him for a reason.

Has more upside then alex with alex what you see is what you get.

Sanchez! Geno! Foles! Every QB who plays the Chiefs!

....kiss of death has been applied.

Derek Carr and his 500 yards, 4 TD and AFC West lead is laughing at your stupid post.

You have both a mod and a physician telling you that you're a god damn moron with your inane, illogical, uneducated posts. At some point, you should get the message.

Common sense, find some.

c'mon now, every team in the league wants him as their starter!


LMAO

Your so stupid man BABY LEE IS A ALEX SMITHER and he even said starting kapernick was the right move are you brain dead ?

How'd he fare against us and Smith?

Oh yeah, he lost

One team has a defense that is worse then the 2003 Chiefs the other doesn't what's your point no one in there right mind would take Smith over Carr.

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Yes, but as long as he's healthy and Reid is coach it isn't happening.

Foles all the way.

I did?

And I'm not an 'Alex Smither.' I am and always have been a Chiefs fan.

I thought you wanted Alex smith to start over foles ?

Smither to me wants Alex over foles

Niner fans just follow alex didn't put you in that category

Well then, make up whatever terms and definitions you like. But if you continue to misapply terms to me, I'll continue to correct you. I'm a Chiefs fan, end of story.

**** you and your 'Smither' shit.

There are people here that are not pre cassel era that just follow Smith.

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YOU, called ME . . . a Smither. Shit don't fly.

I strongly think Smith is the right man for the position, and deserving of respect as the man in that position, . . . AS A CHIEFS FAN.

Well I strongly don't AS A CHIEFS FAN LOL

Raiders are a paper tiger. Their slide will soon begin. Very little defense and Kahlil Mack can't do it all.

No, you strongly don't . . . as an Alex Smith hater. You JUST admitted it.

Probably best to sit ASS this week... for precautionary reasons or something.

I really would sit Alex this week. He didn't look well after those hits. Take care of your players. You did it with DAT, Abdullah and Maclin.