Trey smiths pff grade puts him middle of the road guard. Paying a mid tier guard the highest money in the nfl for a team that has no lt. I’m not sure what the plan is.

We almost have to go all out for josh Simmons trading up to whatever spot we think we can get him if he slides past 16-18 range

Trey smith is also a run blocker and we rarely run. We need pass blocking offensive linemen.

There are some folks around here that are immediately negative about every single move the team makes. Always.

Rinse and repeat.

And then we go to Super Bowls every year.

But still, these folks will bitch all off-season.

PFF often has Mahomes middle of the road. So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Kelce was a bust after his first year. I read it right here on CP.

Yes but Trey didn't pass the eyeball test all year either. We all saw him struggle most of this year and got hammered badly in the super bowl. Carter owned him.

One thing I know for sure - every time you hate a move, we win a Super Bowl.

So hate on, playa!

I think it usually puts Chris jokes and mahes and Humphrey as top guys in the league. But mahomes had bad line and WRs etc so he obv wasn’t the highest rated qb

Evaluating qb is harder because the position requires other players to preform well.

And offensive line man can be evaluated in isolation.

Any of you guys consider that maybe the plan is to add a Jackson or Robinson and just put the best possible offensive line they possibly can in front of Mahomes next season?

Can you not see a path where since you have two WR budding stars on rookie deals, and Kelce, Thuney, and Taylor are all on the way out?

It's like you guys are thinking checkers when it's chess.

Yes.

I like what is happening early for our CHIEFS. Yes, Kelce coming back and a long term deal with Trey Smith is awesome! If they can lock up Thuney then all we need is a LT to complete the deal. We can't pursue Stanley - that would be ridiculous. So, move up in the draft to get the LT you desire - we are not getting Will Campbell so what about Josh Simmons or Josh Conerly Jr.? Do not know what the CHIEFS are willing to do if they need to move up but, I think they will do what they need to to get that coveted LT we need. Just .02 :thumb:

Yes, BUT, they are not going out THIS upcoming season. So why not make the run 1 more time before this happens? :shrug:

I think every season is a run for the Super Bowl.

Of course it is - I just don't see the worry right NOW for this upcoming season. Yes, Kelce, Thuney, and Taylor are all on the way out is inevitable but that is not in the here and now. That is for a next season outlook and not this season's worries is all I am saying. :thumb:

I wouldn't want another GM - Veach is great. And drafting well is only one part of the gig, the fact that this team has been to 5 Super Bowls under his guidance is a hell of a testament. There is an art to team construction. Our defense winning Super Bowls, dude, that's Veach. I bean besides Jones, those are his dudes, his moves, his hires. If you would have told me in 2017 and 2018 that the Chiefs would go to 5 Super Bowls and that the defense was a main reason, I wouldn't believe you.

This desire to run Veach down is a stupid exercise. Ifs ****ing easy and fun to be a contrarian. Any idiot can do that. LT has been a constant headache. I get it. But nobody is prepared to lose both starting tackles late in the season. I don't care who you are. OBJ Jr. was a good move at the time, and he was correct to let him walk.

Here is the thing with Kingsley and Morris. If those two find starting rolls and pan out, Veach is going to look really good. And for as bad as the Super Bowl was, we sure love bitching about a one loss season. Veach has to get creative, I think that's why we are tagging Smith. We can keep him or move him. I like the move.

IF ONLY BLEENT VARCH CUD DRAFT WE WOULDA ONE ALL 6 OF THE LAST SUPER BOLLS BECAUSE ARE ROSTER WAS FREEKING LOADED!!

WHAT A LOOSER RHETT BLEACH IS!! SO SICK OF THAT DAM MORAN!! :banghead: