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pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2021 10:53 AM

Louis Riddick thinks Powell could be WR2 and potential steal for KC: https://twitter.com/lriddickespn/sta...234675721?s=21

We know he talks a lot with the Chiefs brass so this could mean something.

staylor26 05-13-2021 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15672258)
Louis Riddick thinks Powell could be WR2 and potential steal for KC: https://twitter.com/lriddickespn/sta...234675721?s=21

We know he talks a lot with the Chiefs brass so this could mean something.

Yea when Riddick talks Chiefs, I listen, because it’s almost always coming from the team.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 05-13-2021 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15672258)
Louis Riddick thinks Powell could be WR2 and potential steal for KC: https://twitter.com/lriddickespn/sta...234675721?s=21

We know he talks a lot with the Chiefs brass so this could mean something.

Makes sense. One of the scouts for the chiefs said Powell will replace Watkins and Watkins was our #2

Bob Dole 05-13-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15665240)
If he’s the #2 wr and puts up an 800 yard 6 td season the chiefs will have one of the best offenses ever

If the great BWillie thinks he sucks, your numbers are probably low.

ToxSocks 05-13-2021 11:22 AM

When you watch the senior bowl 1v1's, it's apparent that Powell does not have the wiggle that some of his counter parts do.

Guys like Tylan Wallace look significantly looser than our tank-ish WR in Powell.

I don't know what that means, or if anything at all as it relates to his ability to separate. It's just an observation.

Powell really gives me Jason Avant vibes. He was a serviceable player for Reid. One of Reid's favorites.

ToxSocks 05-13-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15672287)
Makes sense. One of the scouts for the chiefs said Powell will replace Watkins and Watkins was our #2

I have a really, really hard time believing Powell comes in and takes the #2 job over Robinson, Pringle and Hardman. Not even by season's end.

Maybe he turns into a Anquan Bolden-esque #2 next season or something.

Skyy God 05-13-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15672258)
Louis Riddick thinks Powell could be WR2 and potential steal for KC: https://twitter.com/lriddickespn/sta...234675721?s=21

We know he talks a lot with the Chiefs brass so this could mean something.

Lou is a quality talent evaluator and super plugged in to the Chiefs.

Would be awesome if he pans out.

Chris Meck 05-13-2021 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15672332)
I have a really, really hard time believing Powell comes in and takes the #2 job over Robinson, Pringle and Hardman. Not even by season's end.

Maybe he turns into a Anquan Bolden-esque #2 next season or something.

I expect he'll have a 'package' of plays, much like every guy they try to work in during their first year. That package will grow a bit as the season goes on and they put a little more on his plate over time.

You're right though, I don't expect he's a day one #2. In fact, I doubt we have a true #2; it'll be by committee. Which is fine, really.

Bolden is a really good player comp for Powell's ceiling I think! That's exactly what you're projecting with him. That would also be a really good #2 type to have here moving forward paired with Hill and Hardman, Kelce and maybe Gray.

pugsnotdrugs19 05-13-2021 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15672327)
When you watch the senior bowl 1v1's, it's apparent that Powell does not have the wiggle that some of his counter parts do.

Guys like Tylan Wallace look significantly looser than our tank-ish WR in Powell.

I don't know what that means, or if anything at all as it relates to his ability to separate. It's just an observation.

Powell really gives me Jason Avant vibes. He was a serviceable player for Reid. One of Reid's favorites.

His path to winning starts with his release/footwork it would seem and is going to have less to do with pure athleticism like acceleration or speed.

I still think there’s something about him that reminds me of AJ Brown, the frame and build I suppose. Similar athleticism. But Brown gets great releases and is excellent at the catch point.

I think Powell’s ceiling is what Brown is. Will be unlikely he ever gets there though.

ToxSocks 05-13-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15672337)
I expect he'll have a 'package' of plays, much like every guy they try to work in during their first year. That package will grow a bit as the season goes on and they put a little more on his plate over time.

You're right though, I don't expect he's a day one #2. In fact, I doubt we have a true #2; it'll be by committee. Which is fine, really.

Bolden is a really good player comp for Powell's ceiling I think! That's exactly what you're projecting with him. That would also be a really good #2 type to have here moving forward paired with Hill and Hardman, Kelce and maybe Gray.

I agree with all that.

One of the first comps i made of him when he was drafted was Deebo Samuel. Similar frame, chiseled, rock'd up kinda WR.

Not a burner, but NFL quality speed and some rare power for a WR.

Those packages you mention, i think we'll see Reid use Powell similar to how Shanahan used Samuel early. Same way Reid used Tyreek early in his career, and Hardman as well.

But instead of a speed element, we'll see a power element with Powell, like Samuel. He won't outrun guys around the corner, but i bet he de-cleats a would-be tackler and will be tough to get to the turf.

RunKC 05-13-2021 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 15672337)
I expect he'll have a 'package' of plays, much like every guy they try to work in during their first year. That package will grow a bit as the season goes on and they put a little more on his plate over time.

You're right though, I don't expect he's a day one #2. In fact, I doubt we have a true #2; it'll be by committee. Which is fine, really.

Bolden is a really good player comp for Powell's ceiling I think! That's exactly what you're projecting with him. That would also be a really good #2 type to have here moving forward paired with Hill and Hardman, Kelce and maybe Gray.

I’d like to get Powell some of Hardman’s jet sweeps because he is way harder to take down and still has quality speed to boot

ToxSocks 05-13-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 15672348)
His path to winning starts with his release/footwork it would seem and is going to have less to do with pure athleticism like acceleration or speed.

I still think there’s something about him that reminds me of AJ Brown, the frame and build I suppose. Similar athleticism. But Brown gets great releases and is excellent at the catch point.

I think Powell’s ceiling is what Brown is. Will be unlikely he ever gets there though.

AJ Brown.

Deebo Samuel.

Anquan Bolden.

Those are all similar comps.

AJ and Deebo are the Anquans of the current era. Except that in 2021 those types of guys get often used as running backs. These so-called revolutionary offenses of McVeigh and Shanahan use these types of players to execute those schemes.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if the 2021 Chiefs offense has some Shanahan/McVeigh type run concepts sprinkled in and featuring Powell.

O.city 05-13-2021 11:44 AM

I'm gonna hold off on expecting anything from a 5th round WR until we see him in the league. Wouldn't you guys say the likelihood is he never does anything of note?

ToxSocks 05-13-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15672381)
Wouldn't you guys say the likelihood is he never does anything of note?

If this were the Pioli/Peterson era Chiefs i'd agree.

But with this scheme, this coaching staff, this supporting cast, this track record of succes, i think at the very least his floor is Jason Avant.

Buehler445 05-13-2021 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15672332)
I have a really, really hard time believing Powell comes in and takes the #2 job over Robinson, Pringle and Hardman. Not even by season's end.

Maybe he turns into a Anquan Bolden-esque #2 next season or something.

Most of it depends on what’s going on in his dome. If he can pick up the playbook (big if) he can make some noise at WR2. He with his giant ass he doesn’t need to run pristine routes to get open or perfect technique to get off jams.

And I think Reid can do a good job of limiting his exposure to different routes without hamstringing playbook concepts.


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