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Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 11:02 AM

No go on Spikes.

Frankie 01-15-2009 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5393046)
No go on Spikes.

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Warrior5 01-15-2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 5392874)
I also think the dark horse candidate for QB is Nate Davis, the kid fits what Pioli is looking for.

Interesting... some background on Davis please?

OnTheWarpath15 01-15-2009 11:14 AM

Todd McShay's QB rankings:

Sanchez
Stafford
Davis
Freeman
Harrell

kobebehar 01-15-2009 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5393115)
Todd McShay's QB rankings:

Sanchez
Stafford
Davis
Freeman
Harrell

Todd McShay is a toaster-****ing moron.

Guys, the discussion isn't just upside, Sanchez may someday be a better QB than Stafford (but I dont personally buy it) But I think that it could take years and years, in the mold of Kurt Warner. Stafford has the physical and mental tools AND ran a more pro offense.

This is really a no-brainer for me.

luv 01-15-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5393131)
Todd McShay is a toaster-****ing moron.

Guys, the discussion isn't just upside, Sanchez may someday be a better QB than Stafford (but I dont personally buy it) But I think that it could take years and years, in the mold of Kurt Warner. Stafford has the physical and mental tools AND ran a more pro offense.

This is really a no-brainer for me.

What are his mental tools?

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5393078)
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Brandon Spikes = Back to Florida.

kobebehar 01-15-2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5393138)
What are his mental tools?

I see Sanchez play and I see his decision-making a little fuzzier than Stafford's. I think Stafford makes the reads a hair quicker.

Chiefnj2 01-15-2009 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5392857)
Oh, I agree, he looks real good, and I won't be pissed if we get him.

BUT that does not take away the fact that he's trying to come from behind, against an inferior team, that he should not have been trailing in the first place, and blows it by throwing into tight coverage, when he could have easily slid in the pocket, and found the open man.

It was something like his second college start. The kid is going to make mistakes.

Chiefnj2 01-15-2009 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kobebehar (Post 5393131)
Todd McShay is a toaster-****ing moron.

Guys, the discussion isn't just upside, Sanchez may someday be a better QB than Stafford (but I dont personally buy it) But I think that it could take years and years, in the mold of Kurt Warner. Stafford has the physical and mental tools AND ran a more pro offense.

This is really a no-brainer for me.

Exactly. Because Sanchez has such little experience it may take some time to develop him. Most coaches dont' have the patience, or the ability, to take a QB in the top 10 and have them sit for a year or two. With the success of Ryan and Flacco there will be even more pressure to play him as quickly as possible.

chiefsngop 01-15-2009 12:06 PM

Man, I really wanted a franchise Qb out of this draft.

But you guys really believe Stafford will be there ?

If Stafford falls to us, I say we take him. But I just don't see Sanchez warranting the #3 overall pick.

If we do take Sanchez with the #3 pick, I pray to god he makes me look stupid and becomes a Hall Of Famer. I think he's a great Qb, just not sold that he's a #3 overall pick QB.

If Stafford's not there, I say we go with D-line help, or maybe an offensive tackle. But if we take a tackle, he'd have to be one bad ass SOB, because IMO we should be able to scout out a tackle to take in the 3rd round.

But if there's a real gorilla out there to replace McIntosh, I wouldn't jump up and down if we took him in the 1st. But he better be the real real deal if we're burning the 3rd overall for him.

Frankie 01-15-2009 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsngop (Post 5393438)
If we do take Sanchez with the #3 pick, I pray to god he makes me look stupid and becomes a Hall Of Famer. I think he's a great Qb, just not sold that he's a #3 overall pick QB.

What makes you sold on Stafford being a #3 overall pick QB?

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Originally Posted by chiefsngop (Post 5393438)
If Stafford's not there, I say we go with D-line help, or maybe an offensive tackle.

We do need a replacement for JA. But I don't see anybody worth the third pick either. That includes Orakpo.

This sure looks like a draft year to trade down in. Not far mind you, just enough to be able to get Sanchez or Maualoga at value. I hope Pioli will find a suitable trade partner for that.

Mr. Laz 01-15-2009 12:39 PM

1. Stafford
2. Sanchez
3. Trade down

Frankie 01-15-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5393600)
1. Stafford
2. Sanchez
3. Trade down

1. Trade down
2. Sanchez
3. Stafford

IMO.

BTW,

I think Pioli will look hard into the possibility of aquiring Cassel. The Patriots are being ridiculous about his value now, but that can change. If he pulls that off I bet he'll try to get Harrell or Freeman in later rounds to develop.

Mr. Laz 01-15-2009 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 5393634)
1. Trade down
2. Sanchez
3. Stafford

IMO.

BTW,

I think Pioli will look hard into the possibility of aquiring Cassel. The Patriots are being ridiculous about his value now, but that can change. If he pulls that off I bet he'll try to get Harrell or Freeman in later rounds to develop.

i want no part of trading our 1st round draft pick for Cassel


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