I'm with you.

Want a real WR that already knows how to play football and is not going to be a gimmick or a Nagy gadget dream.


Projects are fine late in the draft. Not with a 1st or 2nd round pick.

It could be easily said that Legette with the OC change and the extra year could have turned a light on for him. He is no doubt a traits over production type of player going into the draft though. But with ADM one could potentially say he fits in the same traits over production type as well.

Here's another one... Why is B Rice Jr a better prospect than his teammate Tahj Washington? Washingtons stats are better, Rice's bigger.

Washington doesn't have elite speed and is seen as a slot-only guy. If he was either faster or could play effectively outside, he'd probably be higher than Rice.

Both Legette and Mitchell has some obfuscating context that makes it hard to get a confidently reliable read on how much of their potential they can meet.

Legette is physically a little more imposing/thicker, and his top gear seens a bit higher. He pops off the screen physically.

But both are elite athletes with profiles you get excited about.

Mitchell has played in bad offenses (Georgia) that don't throw the ball, and in a pass-friendly offense with a lot of other talent (Texas) and a QB who doesn't throw great deep balls or with good anticipation.

Legette was a converted HS-QB who also has dealt with a car or motorcyle accident setting that interrupted a year, and played only his last 2 seasons with a coach who could design a competent offense and had a competent QB under center.

I think you can find enough to explain lack of production for each player, without doing any gymnastics mentally.

One of the things that doesn't get talked about as much as it should is drops. Both players have very few drops, I think sub 7% is where you want a receiver to be. Anything over that is kind of a red flag IMHO. By the time the draft rolls around, I think you either know how to catch a ball or you don't. Either you have the mental focus and discipline to catch the ball or you don't. Have we ever seen a brick hands receiver in college suddenly become reliable in the NFL?

Both are under 5%, and AM has under 2%. If I was choosing between the two, I'd take Legette, just because I think his ceiling is higher. Dude looks like he could be an absolute beast if he continues to develop.

• Johnny Wilson: 16.1%
• Javon Baker: 10.6%
• Devontez Walker: 8.5%
• Troy Franklin: 7.3%
• Keon Coleman: 7.2%
• Marvin Harrison Jr: 6.9%
• Ladd McConkey: 6.3%
• Xavier Worthy: 5.4%
• Malik Nabers: 4.9%
• Xavier Legette: 4.8%
• Rome Odunze: 4.8%
• Ja’Lynn Polk: 4.8%
• Brian Thomas Jr: 3.8%
• Adonai Mitchell: 1.7%

Last season numbers or career? Jermaine Burton was 0.0% last season.

BTR, Harrison Jr, Burton and Franklin lead the pack on highest efficiency by depth of target. ADM and Worthy are near the bottom. Combined with drop #'s make BTR and Burton impressive IMO. BTR and Harrison Jr. we likely won't have a chance on. Franklin, Burton, Legette, maybe so.

Team's need slot guys too! Why do we value outside WRs more?

Because in our scheme, everyone moves around every snap. There's no slot guy; anyone could be. Or outside.

Fair point.

But that's us, how about the league... he's ranked higher than his teammate that has better stats.

I think last year. Franklin was like 3.1% in 2022.

I don’t know if we value them more, but right now we don’t have any. And last season all we had were slot guys.

You guys have a better handle on exactly who more than I. Was way too busy this past year to watch college ball, so I'm pretty much out of the loop.

But yeah, prototypical NFL stature guys that can run good/great routes, have deep speed, high football acumen/passion would be a nice change of pace.


In terms of physique, I like Brenden Rice. And he has enough speed for the NFL. And he's a good (maybe great) route runner. Guys in that mold.

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I don't see it at all.


Very different players.