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Vladimir_Kyrilytch 08-30-2024 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo (Post 17654665)
That's wrong.

Schanuel had a 161 wRC+ with a 21.1 BB% and an 11.8 K% in 76 plate appearances with Double-A Rocket City.

Jac is holding his own with a 20.9 K% and an 8.1 BB% and a 97 wRC with high Single-A Quad Cities. Decent numbers, but nothing that screams move him up three levels to the majors.

Schaunel has done well in that situation. He has elite plate skills, but the knock against him is whether he will impact the ball enough to be a true thumper at 1B.

Wrong? Everything I posted was accurate Mr. Ocotillo. Calgianone, right now, has played 2 fewer minor league games than Schanuel had played in before he got called up. Two.

Yes, Schanuel and Caglianone are different types of hitters, with Schanuel being more of an OBP guy with low power and Caglianone having massive power but a lot of swing-and-miss. If you're advocating for Caglianone to stay in the minors until he matches Schanuel's K% and BB%, he simply would never get called up at all.

The point is, there is less of a need for minor league seasoning now than ever, what with all the advanced training techniques, your trackman, your Driveline, all that. Advanced college hitters don't necessarily need much time in the minors at all, as Schanuel has proven.

How about Zack Neto? He had more than Schanuel's 22 total minor league games before he got called up: he was drafted in 2022, played in the minros for a whopping total of 42 games, and was in the majors in 2023. Now in his second pro season, he already has locked up a 20/20 season with a month left to go, with a 112 OPS+ and a bWAR of 4.1 and growing.

Call Caglianone up!

GeorgeZimZam 08-30-2024 01:38 PM

I’m sure we could just plug in DeJong at first as well.

cabletech94 08-30-2024 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17654778)
Pratto will be an upgrade with the glove at first. That should be a help

Was just going to say, wasn’t Prattos best feature his Defense?
Let’s Go, Kid!!!

Fansy the Famous Bard 08-30-2024 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cabletech94 (Post 17654881)
Was just going to say, wasn’t Prattos best feature his Defense?
Let’s Go, Kid!!!

He then got to the bigs and proved those reports to be inaccurate.

cabletech94 08-30-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard (Post 17654901)
He then got to the bigs and proved those reports to be inaccurate.

Damn. That was last year, right? I kind of cleared my memory of that. Thanks.

KCUnited 08-30-2024 02:43 PM

Sweet, Loftin is back up

BWillie 08-30-2024 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 17654831)
Wrong? Everything I posted was accurate Mr. Ocotillo. Calgianone, right now, has played 2 fewer minor league games than Schanuel had played in before he got called up. Two.

Yes, Schanuel and Caglianone are different types of hitters, with Schanuel being more of an OBP guy with low power and Caglianone having massive power but a lot of swing-and-miss. If you're advocating for Caglianone to stay in the minors until he matches Schanuel's K% and BB%, he simply would never get called up at all.

The point is, there is less of a need for minor league seasoning now than ever, what with all the advanced training techniques, your trackman, your Driveline, all that. Advanced college hitters don't necessarily need much time in the minors at all, as Schanuel has proven.

How about Zack Neto? He had more than Schanuel's 22 total minor league games before he got called up: he was drafted in 2022, played in the minros for a whopping total of 42 games, and was in the majors in 2023. Now in his second pro season, he already has locked up a 20/20 season with a month left to go, with a 112 OPS+ and a bWAR of 4.1 and growing.

Call Caglianone up!

I don't think he would do well but it would be fascinating. Someday I'd like to see some bad MLB team who didn't care about winning just insert their 1st rd pick in the majors and see how he does and progresses.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 08-30-2024 03:36 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lucas Erceg is day to day. Has swelling and soreness in the hand and said he hopes to be back very soon. He’s understandably upset about the play last night. Most upset about the injury to Vinnie Pasquantino. Says his teammates, including Vinnie, supported and consoled him.</p>&mdash; Joel Goldberg (@goldbergkc) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldbergkc/status/1829631957124129019?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

siberian khatru 08-30-2024 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17654968)
I don't think he would do well but it would be fascinating. Someday I'd like to see some bad MLB team who didn't care about winning just insert their 1st rd pick in the majors and see how he does and progresses.

It’s happened in the past — David Clyde, Bob Horner, Pete Incaviglia …

duncan_idaho 08-30-2024 04:54 PM

The gap between AAA and MLB pitching is greater than it has ever been. Even polished prospects are struggling to adapt and adjust.

I don’t Caglianone has done enough to make anyone think he can skip up. He hasn’t even really forced a promotion to AA, which is the other big jump for hitters and pitchers.

If it’s me pushing the buttons, I would call up Pratto. Your defense at 1B would would improve tremendously, he works counts, and he has power.

The K rate is out of control and looks like it will always be an issue, but an IF defense of DeJong, Witt, Garcia/Massey, and Pratto would be pretty stout.

BWillie 08-30-2024 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17655002)
It’s happened in the past — David Clyde, Bob Horner, Pete Incaviglia …

Seems like it's been a while though.

farmerchief 08-31-2024 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeZimZam (Post 17654550)
This really sucks. What a disastrous sequence of events that play was.

Who’s our new full-time first baseman? Salvy? Fermin full-time at catcher, and call up a backup catcher when we IL Pasquantino later today?

Salvy needs the days off, to just DH, doesnt need the grind of playing in the field everyday.

Ocotillo 08-31-2024 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 17654831)
Wrong? Everything I posted was accurate Mr. Ocotillo. Calgianone, right now, has played 2 fewer minor league games than Schanuel had played in before he got called up. Two.

Yes, Schanuel and Caglianone are different types of hitters, with Schanuel being more of an OBP guy with low power and Caglianone having massive power but a lot of swing-and-miss. If you're advocating for Caglianone to stay in the minors until he matches Schanuel's K% and BB%, he simply would never get called up at all.

The point is, there is less of a need for minor league seasoning now than ever, what with all the advanced training techniques, your trackman, your Driveline, all that. Advanced college hitters don't necessarily need much time in the minors at all, as Schanuel has proven.

How about Zack Neto? He had more than Schanuel's 22 total minor league games before he got called up: he was drafted in 2022, played in the minros for a whopping total of 42 games, and was in the majors in 2023. Now in his second pro season, he already has locked up a 20/20 season with a month left to go, with a 112 OPS+ and a bWAR of 4.1 and growing.

Call Caglianone up!

Schanuel and Neto tore the cover off the ball at the Double-A level. They got called up because they put up video game numbers. Double-A is the proving ground of the minors.

Caglianone is performing around a league average rate in a small sample size at high Single-A. It would be setting him up to fail to bring him up. Let him get confidence first and hope he goes on a heater. .244/.319/.402 is not a slash line that screams major league call up. He's still adjusting to pro pitching and wood bats.

Sure-Oz 08-31-2024 11:29 AM

Royals add Pham. Sucks that Vinny got hurt I assume they would've added him anyway

https://x.com/BNightengale/status/18...zx7lBoCDQ&s=19

Ocotillo 08-31-2024 11:29 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals Claim Tommy Pham <a href="https://t.co/WhwqjTmonf">https://t.co/WhwqjTmonf</a> <a href="https://t.co/v9UbDmUbwA">pic.twitter.com/v9UbDmUbwA</a></p>&mdash; MLB Trade Rumors (@mlbtraderumors) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlbtraderumors/status/1829932448966230025?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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