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TheGuardian 11-18-2024 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomes007 (Post 17814345)
I remember those seasons, not too long ago, where each game we expected an average of high 200s or low 300 yards per game, at least 2 or 3 TD's on average, and no picks. That would be your typical Mahomes game, game in and game out. He has regressed, and it's over a long enough stretch where I could see this no longer being an extended slump of sorts and just his relative norm moving forward. A bit sad to think about. Perhaps he did peak early in his career? Every player's career arc is different.

Irregardless of whether the team continues to be able to win Super Bowl(s) or not.

I don't know if he peaked and has regressed fully but he's 100% regressed this season.

Hammock Parties 11-18-2024 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17814349)
I don't know if he peaked and has regressed fully but he's 100% regressed this season.

The Chiefs were ****ing leading the NFL in third down conversions a couple weeks ago. ROFL

Lose one game and overreaction planet is bleeding all over the place.

Rasputin 11-19-2024 12:06 AM

Mahomes/Worthy will be fine. Better than fine, they will be elite when it matters.

TheGuardian 11-19-2024 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17814351)
The Chiefs were ****ing leading the NFL in third down conversions a couple weeks ago. ROFL

Lose one game and overreaction planet is bleeding all over the place.

How many of those did Kareem convert???

Hammock Parties 11-19-2024 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17814355)
How many of those did Kareem convert???

Please stop it.














Fishels 11-19-2024 12:51 AM

Worthy and Rice will be deadly next season when the suspension runs out. I think Worthy is doing a fine job despite a few rookie mistakes. But that’s why he’s called a rookie

DJ's left nut 11-19-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17813811)

It's actually a pretty well-designed play from what I can tell.

It's been the theme of the offense this season.

Folks want to kill Nagy for some reason - it's Mahomes that is wrecking the offense.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-19-2024 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17814415)
It's been the theme of the offense this season.

Folks want to kill Nagy for some reason - it's Mahomes that is wrecking the offense.

Which brings me here…

If you wanna denigrate Nagy, I think it can only be for not tapping into Mahomes’ max focus every week. Which may not even be possible for a coach to do at this stage of Pat’s career. But I think focus and attention to detail by players is what causes problems in these games, and if it’s like last year, it just isn’t near the same issue in the playoffs. Not for Patrick at least.

ThaVirus 11-19-2024 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17814343)
Oh geez, the decision was fine. His movement in the pocket was excellent. He was running forward on the pass and air mailed it. Bad pass. But everything else was fine.

Except he had no reason to.

Kelce is open right at the sticks. Mahomes pump fakes and you see three defenders bite on him, leaving Gray running wide open.

He didn’t even need to move in the pocket. Either fire that into Kelce’s chest for a 1st down or rip it to Gray for a quick 20 yards.

Instead he threw a pick trying to be Superman and win the game on the second play of the game.

ThaVirus 11-19-2024 07:17 AM

He really just needs to start making those plays within the offense. That’s what makes him elite - hitting those plays consistently throughout the game, season, etc. What makes him special is the Mahomes bullshit he pulls out of his ass a few times per game on top of that.

These days he’s not doing the little things enough and trying to use up his special superpower on every other play. Do the little things right first and that’ll open up opportunity for the other stuff.

O.city 11-19-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ToxSocks (Post 17814343)
Oh geez, the decision was fine. His movement in the pocket was excellent. He was running forward on the pass and air mailed it. Bad pass. But everything else was fine.

What? He takes off running out of a somewhat muddled pocket.

Stand in there and hit the TE that has no one around him in the middle of the field.

O.city 11-19-2024 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17814427)
He really just needs to start making those plays within the offense. That’s what makes him elite - hitting those plays consistently throughout the game, season, etc. What makes him special is the Mahomes bullshit he pulls out of his ass a few times per game on top of that.

These days he’s not doing the little things enough and trying to use up his special superpower on every other play. Do the little things right first and that’ll open up opportunity for the other stuff.

I don't think he's reading defenses this year. Something is off, because he's a one read and take off try to back yard something.

Chiefspants 11-19-2024 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17814475)
I don't think he's reading defenses this year. Something is off, because he's a one read and take off try to back yard something.

That’s my fear. I don’t know if it’s confidence or if he’s worried he simply doesn’t have time to read through progressions. But it’s like he’s afraid to unload downfield because he doubts his ability to have read the coverage correctly. It feels like it’s mental right now, similar to what he went through in 2021.

Hell, in 2023, he pretty much won the Super Bowl by deciding to play it safe Alex style. I don’t know if our defense (currently Watson and the ability to generate pressure with four lineman) has the juice to go all the way with that strategy this year.

crayzkirk 11-19-2024 08:44 AM

Came to the X thread and a Mahomes discussion broke out... Anyways, two things can be true at the same time... X could have caught the pass and M could have thrown it better. I for one am so spoiled by this team that when something isn't perfect, I am surprised and disappointed. Well, that's cray cray. Last year it was drops and this year it's interceptions and bad protection. M is human and having large men constantly crunch you into the ground because your blind side is a traffic cone is going to have an effect. He's got an ankle sprain and as someone who had a high ankle sprain, it's one of those things that never heals quite right.

Teams also have another year of tape and seeing what opposing teams are doing to slow the Chiefs down. It's great to be king of the mountain yet everyone is gunning for you and finding ways to take you down.

I'm working on enjoying it because one day, it will be over.

O.city 11-19-2024 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17814484)
That’s my fear. I don’t know if it’s confidence or if he’s worried he simply doesn’t have time to read through progressions. But it’s like he’s afraid to unload downfield because he doubts his ability to have read the coverage correctly. It feels like it’s mental right now, similar to what he went through in 2021.

Hell, in 2023, he pretty much won the Super Bowl by deciding to play it safe Alex style. I don’t know if our defense (currently Watson and the ability to generate pressure with four lineman) has the juice to go all the way with that strategy this year.

I would guess...it's the OL issues that just have him spooked. Maybe the injuries from the past few years have accumulated enough and it's in his head? I dunno.


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