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Lzen 02-08-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17387454)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Im being a hater… But the 49ers win the Super Bowl by 3 scores</p>&mdash; marlonhumphrey.eth (@marlon_humphrey) <a href="https://twitter.com/marlon_humphrey/status/1755415429416378409?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Sour grapes.

O.city 02-08-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17387658)
That's a strong point - backside discipline will be a big deal. The cutbacks will be the biggest problem.

Haaaaaaave you met my friend, Nick Bolton?

But yeah, that's what I'd focus on as well. Looking for cut-back lanes and big gainers through the middle where our DTs aren't as great against the run and you can find a little more space to work and maybe isolate Conner instead of Reid.

In regards to our DT's....is it a coincidence how much we've seemed to improve vs the run with Pennell and Ferrell in there?

RunKC 02-08-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17387662)
Chenal's eye discipline isn't great. It's not the route I'd go.

He's more likely to take himself out of a play and let CMC get into the 2nd level fairly clean. That's what I'd focus on taking away - how do we make CMC work for every yard. How do we ensure a possible 25 yard run only goes for 8? To me, Tranquill helps more than Chenal in that regard because I don't see him getting sucked up/away from the correct gap.

Leo is most likely gonna be used as a DE on some snaps like he was in Jacksonville. That's your first clue about Felix not being strong enough yet IMO.

Last year in the SB Chenal just killed the Eagles down blocks. They couldn't move him. He just kept shedding blocks over and over again. Guy is a hammer out there. I believe it was Chris Jones that said Leo was basically a DE sized LB with speed and that he was probably the strongest guy on the team.

If they wanna have Juszczyk try to clear lanes for CMC then fine. Spags is gonna throw Chenal right in his face, and good luck trying to move that man bc it's no easy task.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ravens using FB like a TE. Tranquill sets the edge and turns the FB. Karlaftis catches the RG on a cross step and knocks him down. Chenal battles through the block in pursuit for the tackle. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/V2yDArHNzY">pic.twitter.com/V2yDArHNzY</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1752421623846552062?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Karlaftis, Chenal, Nnadi and Tranquill. That’s some quality run defense building a wall there. Nowhere to go. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/v3iG181nry">pic.twitter.com/v3iG181nry</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1709249321323950155?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And go ahead and run the bootleg Kyle. Spags will blitz Purdy so his receivers won't have time to turn their heads and finish the route. Jags tried that. Didn't work out so well...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chenal and Karlaftis are already pressuring Lawrence by the time he completes the boot and starts his setup. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/acQ6XrUp3L">pic.twitter.com/acQ6XrUp3L</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1704537142800589013?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 20, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

TheGuardian 02-08-2024 11:53 AM

49ers
145 points allowed in their past 6 games (24.2 per game)

Chiefs
90 points allowed the past 6 games (15.0 per game)

I said this whole playoffs, that if we got past the Bills and Ravens the 40-whiners would be our easiest team to play.

RaidersOftheCellar 02-08-2024 12:18 PM

SF has been shut down by every good defense they’ve played, minus Dallas. And Dallas always seems to shit the bed vs quality teams.

The two defenses they faced that were at or near KC’s level held them to 17 and 19.

smithandrew051 02-08-2024 12:28 PM

Forty-Giners

Chiefspants 02-08-2024 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17387636)
Justin Reid against the 49ers outside zone scheme may be the biggest matchup of the game.

If it all goes well, Reid could be the silent MVP that Chris Jones was in Super Bowl 54.

In58men 02-08-2024 12:57 PM

Charles Omenihu found a way to get his revenge

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TNTEICHER 02-08-2024 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17387780)
Charles Omenihu found a way to get his revenge

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Purdy hit the panic button. He looked like he was gonna puke on camera Monday.

Frazod 02-08-2024 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17387780)
Charles Omenihu found a way to get his revenge

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Have they whined about it yet and blamed the Chiefs?

Basileus777 02-08-2024 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17387602)
Chiefs fans don't want to hear this but Mike Shannahan's system is the best I've ever seen. It's plug and play.

He would have bum RB's like Quinten Griffin busting off 1k rushing caliber seasons if he wanted. They could have anyone back there and that system would pump out numbers.

It's the same with QB's. Jimmy G looked good, Brock Purdy looked good, Tua looked good, Love looked good. Hell Jake Plummer looked good in that system too and he wasn't very good.

It's the most QB friendly system ever created.

Shannahan takes the decision making away from his QBs and their progressions don't require reading the defense. But this also creates a ceiling though, the scheme has to do all the work and it's harder to put defenders in conflict. Kurt Warner has been going off about this recently.

duncan_idaho 02-08-2024 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17387854)
Shannahan takes the decision making away from his QBs and their progressions don't require reading the defense. But this also creates a ceiling though, the scheme has to do all the work and it's harder to put defenders in conflict. Kurt Warner has been going off about this recently.

Yeah, it's easier to plug guys into and have success with if they are good at following the plan and can read the way Shanahan wants.

It also makes them somewhat robotic and prone to being uneven reacting to a defense that disguises things and creates chaos that messes up the progression.

RunKC 02-08-2024 02:48 PM

Great review here. Chiefs are going to have 12 or 13 personnel on the field and should have lots of success. Chiefs were 4th in the league in efficiency when using 13 personnel.

Lions absolutely obliterated the 49ers using multiple TE's all game

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> use more three-tight end sets than any other team, and equally in the run and pass games. The <a href="https://twitter.com/49ers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@49ers</a> haven&#39;t defended 13 personnel well this season, and Matt Nagy said something to me about 13 that could be big in Super Bowl LVIII. <a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gregcosell</a> and I get into it. <a href="https://t.co/aGFDO2d5Dc">pic.twitter.com/aGFDO2d5Dc</a></p>&mdash; Doug Farrar ✍ (@NFL_DougFarrar) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DougFarrar/status/1755653797874200855?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

seamonster 02-08-2024 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17387686)
Sour grapes.

More proof that this team was soft. Kelce thoroughly outplayed this kid and now he's crying on twitter like one of those little bitch fans that were in here crowing about "DVOA". Onto the next...

Hammock Parties 02-08-2024 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17387923)
Great review here. Chiefs are going to have 12 or 13 personnel on the field and should have lots of success. Chiefs were 4th in the league in efficiency when using 13 personnel.

Looks absolutely obliterated the 49ers using multiple TE's all game

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> use more three-tight end sets than any other team, and equally in the run and pass games. The <a href="https://twitter.com/49ers?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@49ers</a> haven&#39;t defended 13 personnel well this season, and Matt Nagy said something to me about 13 that could be big in Super Bowl LVIII. <a href="https://twitter.com/gregcosell?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@gregcosell</a> and I get into it. <a href="https://t.co/aGFDO2d5Dc">pic.twitter.com/aGFDO2d5Dc</a></p>&mdash; Doug Farrar ✍ (@NFL_DougFarrar) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL_DougFarrar/status/1755653797874200855?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO

Given that Mahomes has just destroyed them in the past, I'm gonna guess we see a lot of light boxes.

Pacheco outside shot MVP.


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