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teedubya 06-08-2010 03:14 PM

Mizzou needs to understand its place.
Posted: 07 Jun 2010 16:14 pm

As the saying in Texas goes…… (Could it be that) Mizzou is more hat than cattle? Athletically and academically speaking, Mizzou’s performance is average at best so it’s hard to understand what they are waiting for (if in fact they have an offer on the table from the Big 10). My guess is that the Big 12 is calling their hand.

Mizzou should understand its place.

If there is an offer….Mizzou should declare for the Big 10 immediately and have iron clad legal assurances of inclusion before they do. If Mizzou doesn’t have an offer from the Big 10 by now, they should declare they are staying put in the Big 12. The new TV deal that the Big 12 would get in place next year might not bring in 20 million per team, but it would be significantly higher than it is today.

It’s all about the money…or is it? : The Big 10 and Big 12 covet Nebraska more than Mizzou despite the fact that Missouri has more than 3x the population as Nebraska. Why? Yes they are steeped in football tradition and they do sell out the 80,000 seat stadium 6 to 7 times a year, but their TV market is much smaller and that is where the revenue is. So why would the Big 10 or Big 12 want them over Mizzou? Mizzou needs to understand this dynamic.

Academic fit? Please!: The "academic card" is one that Mizzou should NOT play....Mizzou ranks 48th of the top national public universities according to US News and World report.

In the Big 12 North, Mizzou ranks 5th (that’s right…5th) behind Colorado at 34, Iowa State at 39,Nebraska at 43 and KU at 46. (Where would Mizzou rank without its journalism school?) No Big 10 team ranks lower than 29.
I thought, after reading this blog and noting the care in which many Mizzou Grads take pleasure in correcting the slightest of grammatical errors…that Mizzou thought of itself as a much better fit academically in the Big 10 than the Big 12. In the Big 12 we would rank 8th or 9th (Baylor is private), in the Big 10, Mizzou would be dead last….by a large margin. How’s that for a recruiting pitch?

Leverage: Mizzou’s only leverage is its Market Share: Missouri (not to be confused with Mizzou) is attractive to the Big 10 for one reason only....Market share. The Big 10 wants Mizzou because of the nearly 6 million people that live in the state and not because of its athletic and academic standing. They should be playing this card as aggressively as they can because it appears to be the only card they have.

Supporting data:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best -colleges/national-top-public

Mizzou ranks dead last by a large margin of number of Big 12 championships won since the league’s inception.

We have approximately more than 3 times the population of any state in the Big 12 other than Texas. If we were to join the Big 10, only Wisconsin and Iowa have smaller populations.

Pants 06-08-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6807381)
Does anyone here understand these deals are based on revenue...not tradition? MU to the Big 10 completes the St. Louis market with Illinois and adds 1/2 the KC market. NU brings a whole state of Nebraska. Texas schools...nuff said. KU, KSU, ISU offer nothing for revenue for one of the new super conferences.

I'm pretty sure some of us understand this, lol.

alanm 06-08-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kepp (Post 6807184)
ESPN Gameday live reporting that NU and MU havebeen invited to join the Big 10, N. Dame not interested in going anywhere, and the Pac 10 is sending out invites this weekend.

And, no, I can't find any links from ESPN or anyone else.

Neither has any Lincoln/Omaha news outlets reported it. It's still all BS until I see it on a official Husker website. :shake:

Frazod 06-08-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6807348)
Iowa has plenty of tradition, we also aren't facing being relegated to collegiate athletic oblivion.
The butthurt coming out of you is strong, for your sake I hope a reputable conference will throw KU a mercy **** and let them come occupy their basement.

LMAO

Yeah, we're all just in awe of Iowa.

Your entire ****ing state is relevant once every four years, when the politicians get chummy with the rubes while the cameras are rolling. Lasts about a week. Other than that, you're North Dakota with hills. No one cares about wrestling or anything else you do. Geography put you in the Big 10, but it's not like Iowa's a major player. And if the situation was reversed, and it was the Big 10 that was crumbling, you can bet your dainty ass that Iowa wouldn't be on anybody's wish list.

OnTheWarpath15 06-08-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 6807381)
Does anyone here understand these deals are based on revenue...not tradition? MU to the Big 10 completes the St. Louis market with Illinois and adds 1/2 the KC market. NU brings a whole state of Nebraska. Texas schools...nuff said. KU, KSU, ISU offer nothing for revenue for one of the new super conferences.

Everyone understands it, except for a certain group of KU fans clinging to the idea of "tradition" and "royalty" and are butthurt that they'll be left behind to play the likes of Wyoming and Air Force twice a year.

To the solid KU fan like Lzen and Guru, they understand that KU's in deep shit right now, assuming there's smoke where there's been fire over the past few weeks.

To the douchebag KU fan, they are in absolute disbelief that there's any reason for concern. After all, they're KU Basketball. Don't you forget it.

vailpass 06-08-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 6807389)
LMAO

Yeah, we're all just in awe of Iowa.

Your entire ****ing state is relevant once every four years, when the politicians get chummy with the rubes while the cameras are rolling. Lasts about a week. Other than that, you're North Dakota with hills. No one cares about wrestling or anything else you do. Geography put you in the Big 10, but it's not like Iowa's a major player. And if the situation was reversed, and it was the Big 10 that was crumbling, you can bet your dainty ass that Iowa wouldn't be on anybody's wish list.

What's that, pig ****er?

Frazod 06-08-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6807392)
What's that, pig ****er?

Hey, Carlos needs a refill!

Sure-Oz 06-08-2010 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6807391)
Everyone understands it, except for a certain group of KU fans clinging to the idea of "tradition" and "royalty."

To the solid KU fan like Lzen and Guru, they understand that KU's in deep shit right now, assuming there's smoke where there's been fire over the past few weeks.

To the douchebag KU fan, they are in absolute disbelief that there's any reason for concern. After all, they're KU Basketball. Don't you forget it.

ROFL Exactly...it doesn't matter to the powers that be that their school has a great basketball program.

Pants 06-08-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6807391)

To the douchebag KU fan, they are in absolute disbelief that there's any reason for concern. After all, they're KU Basketball. Don't you forget it.

Who, exactly do you include in this group? Just curious.

teedubya 06-08-2010 03:19 PM

When exactly did OnTheWarpath58 become such a festering boil?

Archie Bunker 06-08-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 6807399)
When exactly did OnTheWarpath58 become such a festering boil?

2/28/09

:evil:

OnTheWarpath15 06-08-2010 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6807397)
Who, exactly do you include in this group? Just curious.

And ask to be trolled and stalked, when I have no dog in this fight - I'm just calling it as I see it?

No thanks.

FWIW, you fall in the middle, leaning towards the non-douchebags, from what I've read from you in this thread and others.

I have no issue with you. Just debating the topic.

We all know who the douchebag KU fans are. Let's not play stupid here.

Pants 06-08-2010 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6807395)
ROFL Exactly...it doesn't matter to the powers that be that their school has a great basketball program.

That's what I've been saying all along, Sure-Oz. All along...

OnTheWarpath15 06-08-2010 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 6807403)
2/28/09

:evil:

That has to be Pioli's hire date. Edit: No, he was hired earlier than that, I'm sure.

LMAO

Which would be the day I created and posted a Clayton-lite video named "Believe," which ended with a shot of the Executive of the Decade holding the Lombardi.

I believed, until he started doing stupid shit.

Mr. Plow 06-08-2010 03:27 PM

Sanchez FTW!!1!1!!


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