Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 18014899)

I read that 27 of the top 50 prospects are either DL or RB...this an arbitrary ranking but it does speak to how lop-sided this year's draft is.

It means that some talent is going to fall...because teams will wait because of the surplus at one/two positions. Scarcity comes into play.

Just from casual observation...it seems like a situation where using next years first would place them in position to get in on it in the early/mid 2nd round.

You lose the 5th year option but gain an additional player THIS season....and the team is in a dynastic run.

If you can land a player you would take at 31 in another draft...then why not?

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 18015340)

I think there is enough variance in his various scouting reports to indicate that Conerly is nowhere near a slam dunk. Many that I've read indicate he's going to need at least a year to get his strength up to NFL standards.

So, my only point is that if we're drafting projects, well, we just drafted one last year that everyone said was not going to be ready year one-and boy, he sure wasn't.

So we're just giving up? Then why take another? So we can give up on him in a year, too?

A project is, by definition, not going to be great year one.

So-I don't buy for a second the Kingsley is a guard now talk. His problems are technique, but the physical traits still scream tackle.

Not indicating that we should hand him the job, but that's what Moore is here for.

Now, I'd take Conerly if he falls to #31. I'd also look at Simmons although the medicals terrify me. Perhaps Ersery, too.

but I don't feel like we gotta do any of that.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18015345)

Perhaps that's where you and I disagree, and I disagree with many... I just don't think Conerly is a project. Will he need to get a stronger anchor? Yes. Just like Eric Fisher did. Is everything else there? Yes, I think it is. The feet, the hands, the awareness, etc. Athletically, sure, Suamataia and Conery are similar. That's where it stops for me. Conerly is a guy that shut down the best pass rushers in this draft, not a day 2 project from BYU. I think there is a big, big difference between where Suamataia was from a technique standpoint and where Conerly is.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18015255)

You act like we're giving up all these "starting" players. Now that's just being ridiculous. Your best-case argument is that you will give up two part-time players (role players). You're giving up a Leo Chenal and a Derrick Nnadi, in all likelihood. Solid players? Yeah sure. Franchise-altering talents? No.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18015366)

Here's what Mike Tice had to say on the top OL prospects on his son's podcast if anyone is interested. He's not in the consensus on pretty much any of them.

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 18015422)

Really good listen crow! I'm on board. If you have a chance to move up to get this kid to protect Mahomes for the next 8 to 10 years, you have to look into it at the very least. It took a 1st - 3rd - and a next years 1st to go get Mahomes. If that is what it takes to get Mahomes back to being himself going forward then it's a small cost.

Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 18015460)

Trading 2 1’s and a 3rd for anything short of a slam dunk franchise LT is completely asinine…

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 18015470)

I'd also be worried about how much a trade partner would demand. Haven't there been stories about other teams refusing to make draft day trades with the Chiefs in the past few years?

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 18015420)

WTF? If we fail to get starters in the 1st/2nd rounders with those picks, we are hosed.

We give them all up to move up and get a project LT that has a better chance to fail than succeed.

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 18015497)

Who is talking about trading 1sts and 2nds? I never said that.

I said trade a 3rd and maybe next year's 3rd or pick swap 63 or 66 for 97 and trade with Minnesota to get ahead of the gauntlet at the end of the 1st.

I thought maybe there's a chance you'd have to go up to 19 but I don't think so.

I'm not advocating trading to the top 10 for this guy.