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Pitt Gorilla 06-08-2010 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6807330)
I think what KU fans are trying to say is people are discounting basketball. We understand Football is the #1 revenue making sport, but by far and large basketball is #2. And it's not even close between #1 to #2 or #2 to #3.
Basketball is being discounted by those that matter: the conferences.

OnTheWarpath15 06-08-2010 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6807308)
The fact that you think UK falls behind anyone else says a lot about your knowledge of CBB history. UCLA is defined by one era, just like Duke (well, better than Duke seeing as they won in 95 too). It also happens that UCLA cheated to be the success they were, but that's not the point.
Like I said, it was for fun. Chill.

How's this?

1a-d = UNC, UK, UCLA, Duke. No particular order.

Arguments can be made for all of them, again depending on personal perspective.

What era is KU defined by?

The 50's, the 80's or now?

Funny how other programs are defined by eras, yet they all have more titles while having fewer years of history in which to do so.

KU's the oldest program of the group with the fewest championships.

I don't see how that makes them a "King" while the others are just "powerhouses."

vailpass 06-08-2010 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 6807316)
Iowa is beyond dominant in wrestling. They wrapped up the freaking title prior to the final day. Unreal. I'm just glad UNI went to that tree for their next coach.
The Dan Gable tree has many, many branches. UNI's athletics program is really impressing me over the last few years. I used to watch Darrell Mudra and his boys rule the Gateway but IMHO Panther athletics is overall better than it has ever been.

Pants 06-08-2010 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6807340)
Like I said, it was for fun. Chill.

How's this?

1a-d = UNC, UK, UCLA, Duke. No particular order.

Arguments can be made for all of them, again depending on personal perspective.

What era is KU defined by?

The 50's, the 80's or now?

Funny how other programs are defined by eras, yet they all have more titles while having fewer years of history in which to do so.

KU's the oldest program of the group with the fewest championships.

I don't see how that makes them a "King" while the others are just "powerhouses."
UK, UNC and KU are not defined by eras because they have always won. Duke and UCLA are defined by eras.
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The Kansas Jayhawks men's basketball program is the intercollegiate men's basketball program of the University of Kansas Jayhawks, and is one of the most successful and prestigious programs in the history of basketball. The program is classified in the NCAA's Division I, and the team competes in the Big 12 Conference. Its first coach was the inventor of the game, James Naismith. In 2008, ESPN ranked Kansas second on a list of the most prestigious programs of the modern college basketball era.<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup> In the last two decades, no team won more games than the Jayhawks, who won 568 games between the 1989-90 and 2008-09 seasons.<sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup> Kansas also has the longest current streak of consecutive NCAA tournament appearances with 21<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup>, and has the second-longest current streak of winning seasons, at 27. Kansas is first among Division I schools in winning seasons, conference championships and first-team All Americans, and is third in Division I all-time wins.

OnTheWarpath15 06-08-2010 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6807309)
What about Michigan State? That team never gets the credit it deserves.
Definitely Top 5-10, IMO.

Again, there are several teams you could argue for depending on your personal perspective.

vailpass 06-08-2010 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6807329)
What does any of this have to do with what I said? Iowa has no tradition, KU does. Tradition has nothing to do with what is about to happen.
Iowa has plenty of tradition, we also aren't facing being relegated to collegiate athletic oblivion.
The butthurt coming out of you is strong, for your sake I hope a reputable conference will throw KU a mercy **** and let them come occupy their basement.

chiefsnorth 06-08-2010 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6807321)
KU has done it 5 times, actually. Seeing as there was no NCAA tournament when they won it the 1st 2 times, they're usually counted as National Championships.
Those two before there was a tournament, during the Warren G. Harding administration, don't seem so relevant 90 years later.
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|Zach| 06-08-2010 03:05 PM
This thread is off the rails!

OT: I got commissioned by a design firm in NC to shoot at Mizzou on Friday. Should be fun.

Pants 06-08-2010 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6807348)
Iowa has plenty of tradition, we also aren't facing being relegated to collegiate athletic oblivion.
The butthurt coming out of you is strong, for your sake I hope a reputable conference will throw KU a mercy **** and let them come occupy their basement.
No, Iowa has no tradition. Like I said again, I'm not butthurt at all over this. I'm pretty sad to see KU being in this position, but I'm also a realist and I realize that money rules the world. MU provides TVs, NU provides football, which happen to be 2 of the things that provide the most money. You can keep bringing up the fact that KU isn't invited to the party till you're blue in the face, it still doesn't change the fact that KU is a blueblood in a major sport while Iowa doesn't even come close. That's all I'm saying man, there's no need for the vitriol, because it actually makes you sound butthurt.

OnTheWarpath15 06-08-2010 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6807345)
UK, UNC and KU are not defined by eras because they have always won. Duke and UCLA are defined by eras.
Always won WHAT?

Regular season games? Conference championships? Last I checked, Duke is less than 100 wins behind KU in program wins, yet KU has an advantage of 7 or 8 seasons played. Is it really that unreasonable to think that they wouldn't/couldn't have won 12 or 13 wins a year had they started pre-1900 like KU?

KU has a 20 year head start on UCLA, and yet UCLA is only approximately 400 wins behind. Is it really that unreasonable to think that they wouldn't/couldn't have won 16 games a year had they started pre-1900 like KU?

Is it still hard to win championships, or not?

vailpass 06-08-2010 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6807358)
This thread is off the rails!

OT: I got commissioned by a design firm in NC to shoot at Mizzou on Friday. Should be fun.
Congrats Zach. Referral business, word of mouth, did you bid the job or cold call?

vailpass 06-08-2010 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6807372)
No, Iowa has no tradition. Like I said again, I'm not butthurt at all over this. I'm pretty sad to see KU being in this position, but I'm also a realist and I realize that money rules the world. MU provides TVs, NU provides football, which happen to be 2 of the things that provide the most money. You can keep bringing up the fact that KU isn't invited to the party till you're blue in the face, it still doesn't change the fact that KU is a blueblood in a major sport while Iowa doesn't even come close. That's all I'm saying man, there's no need for the vitriol, because it actually makes you sound butthurt.
:D It's getting harder to hear you KU, you are fading out............

Mojo Jojo 06-08-2010 03:12 PM
Does anyone here understand these deals are based on revenue...not tradition? MU to the Big 10 completes the St. Louis market with Illinois and adds 1/2 the KC market. NU brings a whole state of Nebraska. Texas schools...nuff said. KU, KSU, ISU offer nothing for revenue for one of the new super conferences.

|Zach| 06-08-2010 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 6807376)
Congrats Zach. Referral business, word of mouth, did you bid the job or cold call?
They kind of came to me, used one of my shots for a design of Missouri's athletic facilities and after we agreed to those terms we struck up a relationship.

OnTheWarpath15 06-08-2010 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 6807358)
This thread is off the rails!

OT: I got commissioned by a design firm in NC to shoot at Mizzou on Friday. Should be fun.
It needed to regain its burst.

Plus, it's better than the alternative right now - talking Chiefs.

Congrats on the job, Zach.


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