If Herm was the deal-breaker, Clark needs to be shot in the face.

Ladies and gentlemen. As you can see I am holding back on this jerk. When he pushes his luck enough to get trampled in a battle of wits, please understand who starts unnecessary personal attacks.

Has Frankie 'n Beanth always been an asshole and I missed it, or did he just start?

Submitted again for your review. I'm still holding back and planning to do so foe a while.

That's a good idea.

Hold back on your joke threads as well. Please.

so is pioli definitely out or are these more rumors been out all day.

Here is the only news of the day.

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

I'm shaking in my boots.

If your "wits" are as strong as your football takes, I'll let my dog do the typing.

Why don't you post another "Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization ..." post. That's REAL funny.

Don't rule out Pioli as Browns GM yet

By Steve Doerschuk
CantonRep.com staff writer
Posted Jan 09, 2009 @ 08:20 PM
Last update Jan 09, 2009 @ 08:22 PM
BERA —


If Scott Pioli doesn’t jump into the Browns general manager job, it won’t be because Eric Mangini is his mortal enemy.

At least, Mangini drew a glowing sketch of Pioli as a friend and as a professional.

“I think Scott is a great guy,” Mangini said on radio station WTAM amid a whirl of interviews after he was named Browns head coach. “I think he’s really smart. I think he’s really good at what he does.

“He’s another person I have nothing but respect for.”

Pioli and Mangini were fellow Patriots during three seasons that culminated with Super Bowl wins. In their final year together, 2005, Pioli was — and still is — vice president of player personnel. Mangini was defensive coordinator.

Mangini became the Jets head coach in 2006. In 2007, Mangini was suspected as the snitch in the Spygate affair that cost Pioli a first-round draft pick.

“Any disagreements,” Mangini said, “stem from intense loyalty to our clubs, competitiveness for our clubs and not anything to do with personal issues at all.”

Mangini met Pioli in the 1990s when both were making their way up in the NFL world with Bill Belichick’s Browns.

“When I first became a (public relations) intern (in Cleveland),” Mangini said, “I was sleeping on the floor in Scott’s apartment. We’ve been friends a long time.”

Mangini said Pioli was responsible for introducing him to his wife.

“We were on a relocation weekend,” Mangini said. “I was with Scott, and he said, ‘Do you want to go meet my buddy’s sister and some of her girlfriends?’ ”

The “buddy” was Mark Shapiro, who has since become general manager of the Cleveland Indians. Mangini and the former Julie Shapiro are married with two children.

Browns owner Randy Lerner indicated Friday that a general manager has not been picked. He did not close the door on Pioli as a candidate.

George Kokinis, who worked with Mangini and Pioli on the Belichick-era Browns, is viewed as the frontrunner. Lerner and Mangini have talked at length about where the GM search might go, and Mangini has shared his views of Kokinis. Lerner has not met Kokinis, but a lengthy interview is likely when Kokinis breaks free from his duties as pro personnel director of the Baltimore Ravens.

Lerner sought advice from numerous sources as he approached the head coach and GM search. At this point, he is looking for a GM who will mesh with Mangini.

“Ultimately, it will be Randy’s decision,” Mangini said. “I’ll work closely with him in that process. The important thing to both Randy and me is it’s a person I’ll work together with day in and day out.

“It won’t ever be about credit. It won’t ever be about anything but how we can improve the Browns. That’s what I was excited about in the conversations with Randy. I’m confident we’ll find that person, and it will be a complete team effort.”

Lerner will use Mangini’s input but also rely on his network of advisers.

“It’s important to have some checks and balances within the organization,” he said.

Pioli has a substantially deeper résumé and reputation than Kokinis, but it could be that Lerner concludes Kokinis is as bright a prospect as Pioli and would work better with Mangini and others in the building.

Lerner is coy about offering many clues. He did say:

“If you don’t have the chemistry right in the building, you don’t have any chance, because if you have any adversity, the wheels come off.”

Eagles GM Tom Heckert reportedly has faded as a candidate.

Lerner has been through whirlwind, firing a head coach and a GM less than two weeks ago, hiring a head coach this week. His first move after turning his focus from Mangini to the GM hunt?

“Getting some sleep,” he said.

http://www.cantonrep.com/sports/brow...-Browns-GM-yet

Oh I thought you WERE till now. So your posts are your own. Wow!

I'm sure people could read it the first time I posted it.

Thank you for quoting it so I could get double exposure.

"Holding back"? This reminds me of the guy who is going to fight, but has to have his friends "hold him back".

I've said this before..

I honest to god feel sorry for you.

My own CLASS is holding me back. But judging by your posts I don't expect you to understand that.

I bet it was a combination of Pioli's asking price, eating Herm's 4 million, AND shelling out even bigger bucks to a different coach.

It seems this franchise WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND THE FIRST RULE OF BUSINESS:

"It TAKES money to MAKE money".

Yep; we're the CHEAPS, and I will never deny it to anyone.