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DJ's left nut 10-10-2024 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 17738616)
I will never understand why people switched so quickly to thinking a 27 year old is washed because he had 1 bad season with a franchise that has been wasting talent nonstop since Brady left.

We do not need to trade for a WR.

It might be that said 27 year old receiver had been in steady decline since 2019 and had knees in such bad shape in his lone season here that he was being load-managed in the post-season.

If you can get occasional heavy load days from him (either before or after long weeks, in all likelihood) and then get maybe 30 productive snaps from him in an ordinary week, you're in nice shape.

Yes, we absolutely do need to trade for a WR. JJSS can't handle this kind of workload for even consecutive weeks, let alone the 12 straight weeks we have to play to end the season.

And Kelce's old as well so you can't go asking him to take all that contact every week.

Those two guys cannot be the focal point of an offense that is probably gonna throw the ball 35+ times/gm most weeks.

Yes, we need another wide receiver. Badly.

OnTheWarpath15 10-10-2024 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17738797)
It might be that said 27 year old receiver had been in steady decline since 2019 and had knees in such bad shape in his lone season here that he was being load-managed in the post-season.

If you can get occasional heavy load days from him (either before or after long weeks, in all likelihood) and then get maybe 30 productive snaps from him in an ordinary week, you're in nice shape.

Yes, we absolutely do need to trade for a WR. JJSS can't handle this kind of workload for even consecutive weeks, let alone the 12 straight weeks we have to play to end the season.

And Kelce's old as well so you can't go asking him to take all that contact every week.

Those two guys cannot be the focal point of an offense that is probably gonna throw the ball 35+ times/gm most weeks.

Yes, we need another wide receiver. Badly.

A millions times THIS.

RunKC 10-10-2024 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17738797)
It might be that said 27 year old receiver had been in steady decline since 2019 and had knees in such bad shape in his lone season here that he was being load-managed in the post-season.

If you can get occasional heavy load days from him (either before or after long weeks, in all likelihood) and then get maybe 30 productive snaps from him in an ordinary week, you're in nice shape.

Yes, we absolutely do need to trade for a WR. JJSS can't handle this kind of workload for even consecutive weeks, let alone the 12 straight weeks we have to play to end the season.

And Kelce's old as well so you can't go asking him to take all that contact every week.

Those two guys cannot be the focal point of an offense that is probably gonna throw the ball 35+ times/gm most weeks.

Yes, we need another wide receiver. Badly.

They definitely showed their hand. 3 WR’s only get significant snaps? Jody Fortson signs the week of and gets a catch and plays significant snaps?

Yeah. They don’t trust Skyy anymore. Remigio and Ross are after thoughts and they know they can’t put everything on Juju/Kelce while Worthy comes up to speed.

I’m really confident they’re trading for someone

Rainbarrel 10-10-2024 08:43 AM

The two-way Patriot way is up for the bye

In58men 10-10-2024 08:47 AM

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DJ's left nut 10-10-2024 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 17738838)
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Probably still be more effective than Skyy...

DJ's left nut 10-10-2024 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17738826)
They definitely showed their hand. 3 WR’s only get significant snaps? Jody Fortson signs the week of and gets a catch and plays significant snaps?

Yeah. They don’t trust Skyy anymore. Remigio and Ross are after thoughts and they know they can’t put everything on Juju/Kelce while Worthy comes up to speed.

I’m really confident they’re trading for someone

Yeah - this was a "We have a bye week coming" gameplan.

Flog the 3 veterans they trust to not **** up.

Have a new plan by week 7/8. You can probably ride those guys again pretty hard coming out of the bye if you want to but from week 8 and forward, you're going to need to have another plan.

It can't be running your offense through 3 guys clearly on the backside of their respective careers.

staylor26 10-10-2024 09:05 AM

Historically the bye has been very beneficial to rookie WRs for whatever reason. Wouldn't be surprised to see Worthy even more involved coming out of it.

Titty Meat 10-10-2024 09:09 AM

But CP doctors told us he good!

Radar Chief 10-10-2024 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17738846)
Probably still be more effective than Skyy...

Put him in a wheelchair and have Skyy push him around for his patterns.
At least then we'd have a reliable set of hands on the field.

penguinz 10-10-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 17738964)
Put him in a wheelchair and have Skyy push him around for his patterns.
At least then we'd have a reliable set of hands on the field.

Are we sure Skyy knows his own route tree let alone a real WR's.

DJ's left nut 10-10-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17738976)
Are we sure Skyy knows his own route tree let alone a real WR's.

Yeah, you have Skyy pushing the wheelchair and you'll end up with a slew of ineligible man downfield penalties as Skyy kinda meanders in circles on bubble screens meant for Rashee...

BleedingRed 10-10-2024 12:19 PM

Get me Cooper

ThyKingdomCome15 10-10-2024 12:23 PM

Oh so we good for the Super Bowl. Let's go!

Stick to your guns, Veach. We're going full Marty ball and we're going to look good doing it.

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MahomesMagic 10-10-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15 (Post 17739150)
Oh so we good for the Super Bowl. Let's go!

Stick to your guns, Veach. We're going full Marty ball and we're going to look good doing it.

https://arrowheadaddict.com/chiefs-s...r-01j9v8bzcmvm

Veach isn't going to want to trade for an older WR with an oversized contract.

That does not include Amari or Diontae.

Rainbarrel 10-10-2024 12:36 PM

Veach will do something unexpected or seemingly ineffective. 85% will praise it 4 weeks later. That doesn't fill the pages right now though

Mr. Kotter 10-10-2024 01:03 PM

Veach & Reid got this...Rice was drafted to replace JuJu, Pacheco was the best RB since Kareem. Fast forward 2024, they sign free agents (available to any team to sign)...JuJu & Kareem, and bring them back for their old roles after injuries. Genius. Yeah, signing another would be added insurance, but Veach's default is...only at the right price. Sounds good to me. ;)

Pasta Little Brioni 10-10-2024 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17738861)
But CP doctors told us he good!

Alot of awful "information" was posted here by sources that didn't even evaluate the dude ROFL

"I saw the replay and here's the diagnosis" "No ACL HE GOOOOD"

The ****? No no no it doesn't work that way and any past injury to other players were ****ing meaningless too

Radar Chief 10-10-2024 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 17738976)
Are we sure Skyy knows his own route tree let alone a real WR's.

Good point.

suzzer99 10-10-2024 01:09 PM

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Is he trying to drive? NM - I guess that's the back seat.

Sassy Squatch 10-10-2024 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17739217)
Alot of awful "information" was posted here by sources that didn't even evaluate the dude ROFL

"I saw the replay and here's the diagnosis" "No ACL HE GOOOOD"

The ****? No no no it doesn't work that way and any past injury to other players were ****ing meaningless too

****ing idiotic. Absolutely despise this trend of failed grifting doctors hopping on social media and using general knowledge of injuries to try and diagnose someone they've had absolutely no contact with.

penguinz 10-10-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17739245)
****ing idiotic. Absolutely despise this trend of failed grifting doctors hopping on social media and using general knowledge of injuries to try and diagnose someone they've had absolutely no contact with.

You have to also count the people in this thread that were saying the MRI's are very accurate and he has no torn ligaments.

GloryDayz 10-10-2024 04:25 PM

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I'm not doctor, but if he's still in a brace like that I'm thinking this isn't something small. That sucks, but the team needs to plan accordingly.

lcarus 10-10-2024 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 17739454)
I'm not doctor, but if he's still in a brace like that I'm thinking this isn't something small. That sucks, but the team needs to plan accordingly.

It's depressing as hell that the dude was looking like one of the top 3 or 4 WRs in the entire NFL and he gets hurt like that in week 4. Now we won't see him again until maybe October of 2025. Who knows if he will be able to play at such a high level like that once he does return. To be honest Mahomes is a god but that was the most ticked I've ever been at him after that play.

Bowser 10-10-2024 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17739466)
It's depressing as hell that the dude was looking like one of the top 3 or 4 WRs in the entire NFL and he gets hurt like that in week 4. Now we won't see him again until maybe October of 2025. Who knows if he will be able to play at such a high level like that once he does return. To be honest Mahomes is a god but that was the most ticked I've ever been at him after that play.

If you REALLY want to get depressed, we may not get him until 2026 depending on how bad Goodell wants to jam us up.

^worst case scenario, obviously

Bowser 10-10-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17739245)
****ing idiotic. Absolutely despise this trend of failed grifting doctors hopping on social media and using general knowledge of injuries to try and diagnose someone they've had absolutely no contact with.

Who was the guy that had made the video within ten minutes of the injury?

Frazod 10-10-2024 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 17739454)
I'm not doctor, but if he's still in a brace like that I'm thinking this isn't something small. That sucks, but the team needs to plan accordingly.

That's the same sort of brace I was given immediately after my ACL surgery. It was really bulky and sucked, but I only ended up wearing it for a day or two before going to another one that was far less restrictive.

I obviously don't know the context of this photo, but if it was taken immediately after surgery I wouldn't read too much into it.

GloryDayz 10-10-2024 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17739932)
That's the same sort of brace I was given immediately after my ACL surgery. It was really bulky and sucked, but I only ended up wearing it for a day or two before going to another one that was far less restrictive.

I obviously don't know the context of this photo, but if it was taken immediately after surgery I wouldn't read too much into it.

I wish I had your enthusiasm, but the longer we go with no specific news suggests it's not small. Again, the team needs to ensure they're ready for him being gone long term. No doubt they're well aware of what the doctors are thinking, but the longer this goes on without so much as a "this is what it is", the more I think they're playing a game of sorts.

TEX 10-11-2024 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 17739466)
It's depressing as hell that the dude was looking like one of the top 3 or 4 WRs in the entire NFL and he gets hurt like that in week 4. Now we won't see him again until maybe October of 2025. Who knows if he will be able to play at such a high level like that once he does return. To be honest Mahomes is a god but that was the most ticked I've ever been at him after that play.

Yep. That whole play was just catastrophically bad. :shake:

Pasta Little Brioni 10-11-2024 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 17740521)
Yep. That whole play was just catastrophically bad. :shake:

Worst INT in team history other than the pick we got from Dee's offsides. I use that one as an example since for a brief moment we were headed to our first Superbowl in 50 years and then the disappointment of being screwed by a call only Brady gets.

This team we have maybe the best WR in the league go down on 2 stupid decisions by our HOF QB

fadeaway 10-11-2024 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 17739454)
I'm not doctor, but if he's still in a brace like that I'm thinking this isn't something small. That sucks, but the team needs to plan accordingly.

He has just had surgery, i wouldnt be too concerned he is in a brace

Marcellus 10-11-2024 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 17740458)
I wish I had your enthusiasm, but the longer we go with no specific news suggests it's not small. Again, the team needs to ensure they're ready for him being gone long term. No doubt they're well aware of what the doctors are thinking, but the longer this goes on without so much as a "this is what it is", the more I think they're playing a game of sorts.

The news was his ACL is intact he had a small LCL tear and a hamstring tear.

Its literally just about the best possible outcome.

TheGuardian 10-11-2024 12:27 PM

I was gonna follow up with that - it's literally the absolute best case we coulda had.

Minor LCL tear and a hamstring tendon tear. I mean, he won't have an future issues with this

Frazod 10-11-2024 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 17740458)
I wish I had your enthusiasm, but the longer we go with no specific news suggests it's not small. Again, the team needs to ensure they're ready for him being gone long term. No doubt they're well aware of what the doctors are thinking, but the longer this goes on without so much as a "this is what it is", the more I think they're playing a game of sorts.

If he's still wearing that monstrosity a month from now, then we've got a problem. But I seriously doubt that will be the case.

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GloryDayz 10-11-2024 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17741006)
If he's still wearing that monstrosity a month from now, then we've got a problem. But I seriously doubt that will be the case.

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Well I hope so too, man do we need some good news on the injury front...

smithandrew051 10-11-2024 05:14 PM

I think he plays against the 49ers. The bye came at the perfect time.

BossChief 10-11-2024 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17741244)
I think he plays against the 49ers. The bye came at the perfect time.

lol wut


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