Or he could have an injury that he can’t play through and could be in the same situation here except eating a ton more cap space.

That’s the attitude you want to give big money to?

Sneed has played through multiple injuries here. Ankle, knee, and calf. Only missed 2 games in his Chiefs career, a personal issue and a week 18 where we sat most starters.

Needs been banged up for the Titans too. He's played what 5 games this year? Would our record be any different? Nope.

Runkc and sassy squatch is my new favorite cp rivalry

Whistle past the graveyard all you want, but this defense has been pretty ****ing awful recently to close out games.

Do you think they’re going to play this poorly in the playoffs?

They’re obviously not as good as last year, but this is the first game in however long that they’ve given up 30.

That doesn’t mean 30/game is the new normal

No. 30 points will be an outlier. Far more concerned with them giving up potential game tying or winning drives 3 straight games now.

Yup. Earlier in the year we were nails at that, and now it seems like teams can just go right down the field late in the game when they have to have it.

I said this last week against the Broncos when a rookie QB comes in and makes the plays he has to put them in position to win. And everyone was all "wE OnLY alLoWEd 14 PoinTS" and I said...."yeah but that's ignoring the real issue."

That real issue was Josh Allen yesterday and the fact that we couldn't stop him when it mattered.

40 drop backs. No sacks. This defense is having issues too.

I don’t know where we rank in takeaways but it doesn’t seem like luck is gracing us much in that department, unfortunately.

Part of it is scheme, and I don’t necessarily want to go more aggressive if it’s going to lead to more holes in coverage. But that IS something that could help us out if we were closer to average?

Josh Allen has only taken 13 sacks in 11 games. Chiefs Defense is 27th in getting sacks. Not a surprise that no sacks yesterday. I trust Spags but I was bummed they kept blitzing and giving up conversions on 3rd and long. Seemed to be all game.

The DL is a bigger issue than the secondary imo. Jones is not playing as well as last year, Karlaftis and Danna are absolute mid and FAU is a non-entity. Nnadi remains a liability and Turk looks knackered. At some point we've got to generate pressure with 4 because for awhile the DL not named Jones has lived off Spags' blitzing.

Sure, Nazeeh hasn't looked great and guys like Cook look pretty average to me. But they're having to hold up for far too long.

Last year in both games the Chiefs used a spy LB (Gay and Leo) to sit right behind the line in case Josh decided to run.

They didn’t do that at all yesterday. Was Spags trying something different here?

I gaurantee will not play the Bills offense like that again. Leo will sit there and spy Allen

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Who’s going to guard their TEs?

Are you talking about the Titans or the Chiefs?

Our defense is healthy compared to other teams. We're down a #2 CB and our 3rd best pass rusher.

I didn't know it was that bad. Feels like George at least has gotten plenty. We've been among the league leaders in prior years.

I guess my point is that Sneed isn’t available to play for the Titans how would he help things here?

Not sure if you realized this but Sneed missed all of camp with the Titans after missing pretty much all of camp with us in 2023.

He’s not playing this weekend and will miss his 6th consecutive game. They aren’t sure when he’ll be back.

Imagine the outrage if we shelled out for this guy and he missed camp and half the ****ing season making that much money?

Like I've said already, dude isn't willing to play hurt on a bad team with no playoff hopes. He missed 2 games total for the Chiefs, one being a non injury personal issue and one being a week 18 glorified preseason game.

Titans should bring back Jeff fisher

You don't think maybe the Chiefs had an idea on his health, and that being a reason they moved on?

A lot of teams backed off him bc of questions about his knee. I remember several sources including Schefter saying that. In fact I think that’s why the Colts backed out

Played hurt throughout his career here. If that's the reason we have to heavily rely on bum ass scrubs like Nazeeh Johnson and cumulatively weakened our defense then it was a pretty glaring **** up.

They relied on Jaylen Watson who was playing excellent football but got hurt.

They did miss on draft picks like Kamal Hadden though. Need to draft a corner really early again next Spring.

We've had massive issues defending the slot all season. Even before the Watson injury.

Football is ****ing hard.

We need a new LT, have to replace Trey Smith at RG after we let him walk, add a handful of WRs, restock the RB room, add a pass rusher or two as well as good CB depth. All in one offseason.

.46 EPA/dropback (32nd)
65.1% success rate (32nd)
117 QB rating (32nd)

Dead last in multiple metrics. Chiefs defense has allowed 22 TDs on the year, total. 8 of them have come from teams targeting the slot.

Hell, we had folks pounding the table for not giving up multiple mid round picks for Lattimore, who has actually missed a ton of games recently and seems poised to miss more for the Commanders.

And yet...they still traded him.

Now he's played what, 3 games this season? Seems they knew what they were doing there.

The defense got worse....they knew that would happen and went to strike up the offense....they get hurt. Shit happens.

That would be more Chamarri Connor playing the slot than your outside guys anyway.

Yes. I'm well aware they traded him. I just think it was an avoidable mistake that has had the cumulative effect of making our defense significantly worse by forcing McDuffie out on the boundary instead of in the slot where he excelled.

Again, acting like an 18 million AAV contract wasn't attainable is absolute bupkis. Danna is getting 8 million AAV and Tranquill is getting a bit over 6 million AAV. That's just over 14 million going to two guys that have been largely replacement level players this season instead of an elite CB that Spagnuolo has said multiple times was one of the key contributors that made the defense as stout as it was.

League circles say that would be a bad idea for the Titans.

But they weren’t replacement level last year. I doubt anyone saw this drop off coming.

He's not going to listen to logic he's just going to continue to convince himself that its something Sneed could play through and everyone is wrong but him.

He missed tons of camp and practice time throughout his Chiefs tenure and still played in nearly every game here. Almost like he's willing to play through injury. Well, until he's sent to a bottom tier team with no hopes for a playoff push. Then he's sitting out over a month with a quad bruise/strain.

It doesn’t have to be only Sneed as the answer though.

I’m sure a second round CB would’ve been a better contributor than Kingsley, right?

Or not pinning your hopes on Kelvin Joseph. I have no idea why they thought that one would work. Dallas sucks at many things, developing CBs is not one of them.

Jesus

Major injuries are always going to be impactful. No team has the depth to handle top line injuries. Yeah they could have drafted a CB in the 2nd but we had absolutely nothing at LT. NOTHING. Yeah it sucks that Kingsley has been awful but there is no way they are not drafting an OT early

But he's literally not been able to play this year due to injury. You think he'd have played thru it here, where I would question if he would have once he was paid like he's doing now?

Or once he got paid?

Yes? He did it his entire career here. Ankle, knee, calf. Showed up on the injury report and played through all of those. Again, not a coincidence he shut it down when the Titans got so far out of the playoff picture there was no feasible path to get into the mix.

LOL as if we didn't plenty other things to bitch about.

I'm not against keeping Sneed around, I get both sides of it.

But they actually had played it pretty well, then Watson broke his leg and the defense has a direct correlation to getting worse from there out.

There have been some pretty marked flaws in this defense all season. TEs and the slot were exploitable even before Watson went down.

Willie Gay is missed.

Also with his ability to spy Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.

May have had flaws but they were manageable. The defense has struggled massively since Watson got hurt.

Huge loss

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Yeah, wish they would have kept him strictly for those reasons.

Yep. Its not rocket science. At some point, the injuries catch up. This is that point.

Which is why the path to a Super Bowl win last year is not realistically replicable this year.

Can’t expect the defense to keep the Chiefs in playoff games if the offense goes 16 consecutive possessions without a TD.

Wrong.

Defense actually better this year. Pass rush hasn't been as productive but we're good.

And our offense this year is MUCH better. And getting better every week with Pahceco and Hollywood on the horizon...

I've asked this question before, but how many current NFL defenses have all 11 starters healthy? I'm guessing not many. Watson played great but there's still talented players throughout this defense. It's not like we're down Watson, plus Jones, plus say Bolton or Reid. A great defense should be able to overcome a #2 CB injury. I believe we have the personnel and coaching to do that. Spags is just figuring out how to manage the current group without Watson.

Step number 1:

Get 13 off the field

Connor constantly missing tackles hurts too, wish Hicks would play more too

Hicks needs to play a lot more and Conner needs to be in the original position Sneed was in prior to his last year here.

I remembering alot of posters wanted to keep Sneed and let Jones walk

Which is why no NFL team in the SB era has ever three-peated.

Can you imagine if we let the CP "brain trust" build the Chiefs roster.

ROFL

Welp

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LMAO Both he and the team have quit on the season.

Elite DT's are ALWAYS more difficult to replace than a talented CB - even one as good as Sneed. Jones is just a major disruptor against any Offense.

Well, it appears Bart Vatch knew this all along and wasn't going to keep LJ from cashing in. :)

One that's gone under the radar. Hasn't played since week 6 and his injury is being described as "very strange". Good decision by Burt to not pay him and get at least a third round pick (probably would have got a 5th/6th round comp pick had he left in free agency) for a crock.

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He also isn't going to suck it up and play through it on a terrible team when he already got paid.

Jimmy Clausen, Matt Barkley and Geno Smith #1 overall!!

I always wonder who exactly is the brain trust.

the Jimmy Clausen Charlie Weiss best buy story is a Chiefsplanet classic

A very predictable turn of events.

What would be the most poetic is him being released and coming back to KC.

Dude got paid and is on a bottom five team with next to no long term prospects. Not a shock he isn't willing to play through stuff he would've before.

Man the Titans made a good trade.

You know it’s going to happen.

Remember his interview after being signed by Tenn? Dude was/is completely heartbroken that he couldn’t stay in KC.

I bet he and Tyreek both want back in KC and will get their wish at some point.

Gonna be hilarious when the Titans cut him after little over a year from now and he’s back in KC in 2026

BART Veach strikes again.

Got to be willing to walk away from players who are not vital to winning championships.

This season its guys like Trey Smith, the following year it will be Pop.

You can’t overpay for past performances

Don't mind losing Trey but Pop's gonna hurt.

Dude absolutely wrecked his body for this team.

Of course other teams know that so maybe he comes back on a cheap deal.

Sneed and Hill on the cheap for the 5peat :LOL:

CP wanted to keep him over Jones LMAO

Was there a vote on it?

Currently the 67th pick for Sneed with 1 week to go. Worst they can go if they win next week is 7th overall, so 71st pick.

This is why future draft picks are not “an extra rd of value”. Being patient brings dividends.

This is basically a late 2nd rd pick as it stands today

I don't know if that's true. I think most of us didn't want to give Sneed big, long-term money AND Jones was the better player at a premium position.

I didn't want to pay Sneed. He was too old