Just going off of memory:

Hurts (TBD)
Burrow
Garroppolo
Goff
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton
Kaepernick
Grossman
Delhomme
Kerry Collins
McNabb
McNair
Hasselbeck

That’s just going back to 2000-ish. My memory gets a little hazy before that point but Jim Kelly and Marino would have to be additions as well.

They'll win the next 2.

Have you had your turn getting your dick sucked by that new Ravens fan yet?

Ken Anderson...

Boomer Esiason...

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Nvm

:LOL:

Daryl Lamonica
Joe Kapp
Fran Tarkenton
Craig Morton
Vince Ferragamo

...dude...:spock:

The new Ravens fan can answer "yes" if the question "has your team ever won a Super Bowl?" is asked. Of course, who among us can't? Oh wait.....

AFC North **** talk is unique in how much hate is shared between every team in the division. I welcome this type of discussion on our Chiefs forum. Our AFC West rival fans just haven't had a lot of piss to spare in that regard as of late.

Reality: you had your chance to win two in a row while the Chiefs were “down.” Came up empty. Now the window is closed. Better luck next window!

If the AFC North were a person, it would be a goddamn Habsburg.

Inbred dipshits.

Um, how did that turn out for you? Wait, you beat the Chiefs and then LOST to the Rams and Stafford? Your team is a ****ing joke! ROFLLMAO:thumb:

YOUR TEAM HAS NEVER WON A SUPER BOWL! You can thank the 49ers and the ****ING Rams! Oh yes, they RAMED it up your ass via a VICTORY!

I do wonder when you will realize that this isn’t happening.

Will it be after Myles Garrett and Z’Darius Smith abuse your team’s “major upgrades” at T?

Or will it be when you realize that your offense has changed to include fewer seven step drops and more chips to help the LT because Brown can’t hold up against outside speed rushes?

Or will it be when you see how much money your superstars cost when they get off their rookie contracts?

You had your shot, Bud. You missed it.

Things that exist since Cinci won the Superbowl.

Fire, Wheel, Cotton Gin, Lightbulb, Computer

Also the universe

Bengals fans are in for a rude awakening. They think that Burrow takes a lot of sacks simply because the OL has been poor, but his pressure to sack ratio is one of the worst in the league. 2nd worst in 2021. And his new LT is among the worst in the league in snaps per pressure.

Yeah, when they discover Brown sucks ass at blocking speed rushers it’s going to be glorious.

Burrow better turn into Lamar Jackson or he might die.

Never seen players on a team, and their fans, talk so much shit, when having won
N-O-T-H-I-N-G! LMAO

Yeah. It was really ugly between the Bengals and Steelers during the Dalton era, way beyond just shit talk. I like the Chiefs v Bengals rivalry right now because while there is a lot of talk, the teams keep it clean on the field.

The real kicker is they think Mahomes career success is due to his offensive line. Constantly see things like “if Burrow had his line…” so when they realize his LT was average at best will they revisit and say wow Mahomes was just that good? Doubt it.

BURROWHEAD: Bengals talking a lot of sh1ttttt
 

As for Burrow, he is very Brady like in one regard. His defense carried him just like Brady, but unlike Brady (even early Brady) Burrow shrinks in the end of game moments in the playoffs. Thus, he missed his two best chances at winning one.

There are no 7 step drops in this offense. Bengals are (T) 2nd in percentage of shotgun snaps and it's all pre-snap reads and timing. I've posted the stats for when Burrow had a decent offensive line last year, before injuries. Top rated QB in the NFL and only sacked 24 times in 12 games, which includes one game of 5 sacks.

The last 2 years he's played behind a bottom 5 offensive line in the playoffs each time and made a super bowl and another AFCCG. As bad as you say OBj is, he's still better than what they had.

The only thing keeping the Bengals from being the 2x defending champs right now is a really shitty, not just bad or average, offensive line. As long as they're healthy, this offense will be fine.

They're going to have to throw things short and quick. Which is fine and they can still be successful doing it, but Burrow is going to have to "escape" a lot, which exposes him to more hits. And they're going to lose some downfield explosiveness because they have to throw things short to have time/blocking hold up.

I've seen a few poke at Mahomes' average air yards last year, especially on TDs. Part of that is the offense evolving to handle the 2-deep safety looks, but some of it is also the offense evolving to cover for Wylie and Brown.

Burrow can do it, but say goodbye to the prayer jump ball throws he enjoys so much.

Joey is 15 months youngers than Pat. And he's just done so, so much less with the opportunities he's been given.

And he's never gonna win shit until Pat retires(which will prolly be after Joey to be fair). Cincy fans should be ecstatic they get to watch their guy go against the GOAT however.

Number of drop backs when under pressure:
Mahomes - 245
Burrow - 199

Sacks, Hits, Hurries:
Mahomes - 5, 16, 31
Burrow - 5, 2, 5

Total pressures:
Mahomes - 52
Burrow - 12

% of drop backs with some responsibility(fault): (37 QBs qualified @20% of snaps taken)
Mahomes - 21.2% (8th highest)
Burrow - 6.0% (34th highest)

Chiefs OL - 73.9% (32nd highest)
Bengals OL - 93.0% (3rd highest)

Chiefs LT - 23.7% (17th highest)
Bengals LT - 26.6% (11th highest)

Mahomes had 46 more drop backs under pressure, they were sacked an equal amount of times and Mahomes was hit or hurried 47 times while Burrow was hit or hurried 7 times. Mahomes was responsible for 21% of the pressures while Burrow was responsible for 6%. The Bengals offensive line was responsible 93% of the time while the Chiefs were 74%. OBj was responsible 24% of the times and Williams was 27%.

Five sacks for each while Mahomes had 46 more drop backs makes his sack percentage way lower but that is offset by the amount of times he was hit or hurried on those drop backs.

Alex, I'll take "Things That Will Never Happen" for $1000.

That's exactly what the Bengals did last year. The teams mirror each other in consecutive years on how they needed to adapt.

Zero TDs in the 4th quarter in the playoffs. They don't call him Joe Cool fot nothing. Cool as in ice cold in the 4th quarter of a playoff game.

again, if they want to keep bitching, let it eat at them until they implode

Didn’t this streak of greatness you’re referring to coincide with a really weak part of the schedule? Brings to mind when Bills fans were bragging about the #1 defense before KC hung 42 on them.

And of course you ignore the inconvenient fact that Burrow has one of the worst pressure to sack ratios in the NFL. And the other inconvenient fact that Brown is among the worst LTs in pressure rate.

Setting yourself up nicely for more disappointment I see. :)

I bet you can find this exact post on the Seahawks board when they had Wilson trying to explain away his high sack numbers every year.

I don't know about "weakest". It was weeks 3-15. The offensive line took 0 snaps together in preseason, Burrow was coming off appendectomy surgery and week 16 was the first of 3 consecutive weeks that they lost someone on the line.

The first 2 weeks were brutal with 13 total sacks. Sack to pressure i touched on a couple posts above.

First of all, how are they measuring "under pressure?" Does it seem a bit odd to you that only 5 of the 41 sacks Joe BUrrow took last year were deemed to have been "under pressure" sacks? This looks like PFF data... is that accurate?

Even if we took PFF's read on this as gospel (note: no one should, and it especially doesn't fly around here), the bolded piece is the part at which you should be looking. That's a small separation between Williams and Brown, and a lot of your fellow fans seem to think Brown is a transformative upgrade (and that's understandable, a lot of national pundits believe that, too).

There's also the matter of Burrow being sacked an additional 36 times in 2022 when not "Under pressure" by breakdown, vs. 21 times for Mahomes. That's where the need to escape will REALLY come in with Orlando Brown at LT.

When he faces an outside speed rush of any quality at all, Brown HAS to win ugly by pushing his man wide of the pocket. This is a tactic that works, generally, when you're on schedule and the ball comes out on time. When you have a QB holding the ball and waiting for things to develop down field, it's much more of an issue.

Mahomes and the Chiefs were able to make it work in 2022 and be an efficient offense by getting the ball out quicker, using the RB and multiple TE sets to chip the Es and slow down the outside rush, and having the best G-C-G trio in the NFL, which usually afforded Mahomes space to step up in the pocket.

That recipe wasn't there for Cincinnati a year ago.

And honestly, if this data set is designed to show how often a QB is sacked when his OL gives up quick pressure, I think the story it tells is a NEGATIVE for Cincinnati. If Burrow was sacked 36 times when his line did not give up "quick pressure," adding Orlando Brown Jr. at LT isn't really a fix for that. He's not going to get bull rushed often and give up quick pressure (unless a pass rusher with speed and power has been whipping him to the outside and he starts cheating there, then gets beat across his face), but that secondary pressure where you're 3-4 seconds into the play and the DE has run the arc and is bending back to pursue back towards the LOS is an issue for him.

This story isn't going to end how you and the Bengals think it is.

Joe Burrow has played 6 playoff games and has not thrown a single TD in the 4th quarter of any of those games.

He relies on YOLO balls to Chase/Higgins and Lou to bail him out. He's good but not in the playoffs

Yes it's PFF. It's stat compiling, not grades (which are worthless) but i don't know how they determine "under pressure". It seems that every single sack ever recorded would be "under pressure" but...i have no idea. I'm just showing the number of times for each for comparison.

I'd never call OBj a transformative upgrade so other fans can kick rocks. I know he's an upgrade, maybe small but an upgrade.

To the bolded, that's exactly what the Bengals do and like the Chiefs, they had to adapt to 2 deep safety looks, like the Chiefs did the year before. The Bengals don't have deep drop schemes, they're predicated on timing and getting the ball out quick already. If what the Chiefs did for Brown was successful, then he has nothing to worry about because the Bengals already run that offense. Brown already spoke on this himself, about how different the QB drops were going to be and it would be a strength for him.

The very simple fact of the matter is, when Burrow is behind a decent offensive line, he's elite. When he's behind a shit offensive line, he's still very good. It's indisputible by the eye and by the numbers on the page. He may never get a ring because he has Mahomes and the Chiefs in front of him. The Chiefs check more boxes from the top down and Mahomes is the best QB in the game right now. That doesn't change the fact that Burrow and the Bengals are a very real threat to the Chiefs. The biggest threat in the NFL.

Burrow is great, yes.

How much did the Bengals chip with RBs last year? I didn’t see that much at all (if at all) in the action I watched, and Brown required that type of help a lot of the time for KC in 22 (less in 21).

I don't know specifics right now but from memory, they seem to prefer to get them out in space as a safety valve. Any chipping was more like getting a hand on a guy then getting out in the flat.

A lot of talk about a team that’s going to be a wild card team at best. No team in ohio will ever win shit.

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You should load a shotgun and use it on your own head

The NFL needs the Arrowhead Invitational. The script writers will never allow that to happen.

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I just saw a leaked memo from the NFL. Doesn't look good for you.

https://i.ibb.co/1G30jG0/no-more-chiefs.jpg

Those teams looked like they were literally trying to kill each other on the field. Hell, AB never looked the same since and Juju sent Burfict to space in the game after.

Holy mother of ****ing God.

This is an outstanding post.

All you ****ing toolboxes that try to troll should be ashamed of yourself. Take note douches, this is how you run smack.

You're team is full of DBags and you get a lot of shit on here, but honestly you're a pretty decent rival fan poster. Yeah you're gonna talk up your team and get excited about signing what you hope is an upgrade for your defensive line, but at least your not a huge douche rocket like KnowMo or that DickLicks dipshit.

I hope the Ravens take back the north. Little Joey is getting too comfortable in that corner

Here is the most the relevant stat, and quite frankly, the ONLY one that matters:

Mahomes 2
Burrow 0

Has anyone heard how Burrow’s anal reconstructive surgery went after what Chris Jones did to him in the AFCCG?

Is he still sitting on a donut? Colostomy bag?

MVPs or Superbowl Rings?

Yes.

6-0

(MVPs, SBs, SB MVPs)

That's a very nice thing for you to say. You still need to die in an AIDS tree fire, but thank you.

He shrugged and said he's had bigger.

He sounds a lot like my wife!!!!

Wait…

You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?!?

He's from Cincinnati, shit is all they eat

Is that not normal?

You can eat **** pie, QUEER!!

Mahomes is 1 Lombardi from having a SuperBowl ring for each of the fingers required to give Burrows mama a....

Super Bowl Shocker....

Good thing he has small hands.

Did they have to do this for his ring?

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why the hell would you rival post? what's the point? seems like closeted chiefs fan behavior.

Chiefsplanet has always had a few rival posters.

When I was first came here (2007) that was mostly AFCW rivals (Broncos, Raiders and Chargers fans with the occasional Seahawk fan thrown in there).

In the new era it's Bengals, Bills (though they mostly post during gameweeks) and the occasional Ravens and Titans fan.

We still have a couple Broncos and Raiders fans around, but do we even have any Chargers regulars anymore? Can't imagine the LA Chargers even have a prominent independent BB forum since they arose during the reddit era.

Because he's a queer and he eats shit pie! ;)

There have been 66 men that were a starting QB in the Super Bowl.

45 played once and never returned.
29 lost their first appearance and never returned.
16 won their first appearance and never returned.

4 won their first appearance and lost all ensuing appearances
Joe Theisman
Brett Favre
Kurt Warner
Russell Wilson

3 lost their first appearance and returned only to lose all ensuing appearances.
Morton
Tarkenton
Kelly

11 won their first and then returned to win it again.
Starr
Staubach
Bradshaw
Plunkett
Montana
Aikman
Roethlisberger
P Manning
E Manning
Brady
Mahomes

3 lost their 1st appearance and returned to win
Dawson
Griese
Elway

The only way that would be necessary is if he was loaning you one to keep it from falling off of your pickle.

He's already got 2 for the pink....at the end of this year, they'll be sizing Mahomes for the Stink finger ring.

I would crush Mahomes in a thumb war. You know what they say about big hands. If not, just ask Tr...

I better stop there.

Every day is a cold day in the pool at your house.

...and now, Joe Duuuuuuuuurrow is going to shriveled worse than you knowing that his new LT is going to get him buried by every speed rusher in the league because he's "not like that" like Mahomes.

My condolences on your playoff loss this coming season.

When you put everything into context, I would rather for the Bungholes to be the cream of the crop of that division instead of the Stoolers, Ratbirds and Poostains.
Cincy is just there, a perennial loser that has never won anything. Let them have that division for the next decade. As long as the rest of teams stay irrelevant. All fine by me.

lmao @ the poostains

'Cause this site blows www.kentuckysister****er.com out of the water. Can't say I blame him.

Quit daydreaming about my gigantic cawk and tell me just how pissed you're going to be if OBj makes All Pro this year.

1. Slightly peeved
2. TV punching mad
3. Flying to the North Atlantic to kick baby seals enraged.

I, to the contrary, would be very happy to watch OBj play in the pro-bowl this year.

BURROWHEAD: Bengals talking a lot of sh1ttttt
 

Mother Faulker, why is Joe a tranny??

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He IS him/her/she

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The more disturbing part is the pull down around is ankles

Very cool! God he’s so cool!!!

No way, dude. these fans don't deserve shit. I feel for fans in buffalo who gutted through heartbreak and sold out their stadiums year after year after year.

This breakdown is goddamn beautiful
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AFC north teams hate each other. They universally hate Bengals fans because they're homers. Look at the comments to see. They’re actually ragging on browns fans for going to games during an 0-16 season versus bengals fans who were “sending a message to the owners.” **** that shit.