I never said that. I speculated that a supercomputer that was devising a strategy may consider it in certain rare situations.

You keep referring to the ‘supercomputer’ but I’m not sure you know what that means.

Not sure why you are being snarky, but its not unusual for you. Quantum computing has helped make artifical intelligence more of a reality. Many simulations with many different variables are too complicated and time consuming for humans to complete. Thats where quantum computing (or supercomputers) come in. They have already helped solve no limit texas holdem. They can be applied to many other complex problems and decisions trees.

Oh, thanks. I only work in financial markets at a leading quantitative firm which is basically ground zero for this sort of computing power and deep analytics. But I appreciate your helpful explanation.

My point was the “let’s bench Mahomes because we’ll benefit” theory isn’t something that requires 10 million nodes to be able to process. But you can continue to point to “supercomputers” as a crutch to support your asinine ideas and prove that you’re out of your depth.

Hope that was snarky enough for you.

I thought if there was any chance of Skyy seeing anything more than limited snaps, it might be because with so much turn over at WR, Andy/Patrick might have to run a simpler offense that would be easier for a rookie to learn.

But I didn't really think that.

I've been pretty consistent since the draft not to expect that much until next year.

Although I certainly expect him to get more than two snaps as the season goes on. And I would certainly be delighted to see him lighting it up sooner rather than later.

I'm happy you are so successful so that you can belittle others on a message board, who are also Chiefs fans and have different opinions & thoughts different than your own. I hope that you will find inner peace by doing so.

I don't think his take is dumb. However, there's more for a rookie to adjust to than an NFL WR with several seasons under their belts.

Haven't watched any A22 of MVS from last year but coming from the WCO he came from, I'd wager that he ran more than just "basic routes". That doesn't include sight adjusts and hot rules.

Well Rodgers lost faith in MVS because he ran wrong routes last year so... There's a reason they just had him going deep for the most part.


I think by midseason Skyy will be getting more snaps than him and be our #3 at worst anyway so it's all moot.

By the way yesterday validated our decision to take skyy over Pickens.

Holy hell. It’s 3 games into his career and he’s already throwing sideline tantrums. Imagine his reaction to Andy Reid easing him in.

Not that I feel bad about the Steelers. Who for some dumb reason the media always talks about their coaching and character even though they draft these divas over and over and over and over again

WorSt scenario for the Steelers. His incredible catch will blow up on social media and feed his ego.

People will forget that a few drives later he blew a td because he tried to hot dog a one handed catch instead of using 2 hands for a clear TD

Slim > Pickens

Tomlin used to be a great coach. But I think he's lost the team. Late game in super-hurry-up spots, the receivers were just walking back to the line.

You'd think after the Claypool debacle last year they'd have at least drilled that into them.

Dude, you’ve said some pretty ridiculous things lately. He wasn’t belittling you, he was attempting to explain why your opinion is silly. Because it absolutely is.

Not only that but look at your post to him, attempting to explain how quantum computing works. It was condescending and he simply responded in a way that let you know he doesn’t need a lesson.

Thought the same thing last night. Pickens may turn out to be very good, but I'm not sure very good is enough to compensate for all the drama.

Skyy isn't worried either.

Considering our top 3 WR's are dinged up I expect to see Moore vulture some snaps this weekend to help those guys out.

“the best rookie receiver I’ve been around in my five years.”

Nice tidbit there.

That's a bit aggressive. IIRC he was rookies with Chris Godwin.

coaches don't fully trust him yet

i bet he gets a chance to show out against a weak colts team...see if he can split some snaps with hardman or mvs

Moore didn’t get any snaps because it was a close game against a tough opponent and Andy was being conservative with a lot of the offense, not just Moore.

Doesn't really say much though. Watson was drafted in 2018, Godwin and Evans were already there. The only rookies drafted by Tampa since he's been there are Tyler Johnson, Scottie Miller, and Jaelon Darden (who?), plus any UDFA they brought in. I should certainly hope Skyy Moore is better than that bunch of nobodies.

Yep

Exactly. Pachecho didn't play much either, and the little bit he did seemed to be due to CEH getting his knee stepped on.

Short week early in the season against a tough opponent. I don't think Skyy will ever play only 2 snaps again.

Yep I brought up Pacheco a couple of days ago, it might have actually been in this thread.

He also cost them the onside kick opportunity at the end of the game, IIRC.

CEH and McKinnon played incredibly well. Not sure I'd want to take either out right now if I don't have to. Pretty sure it was McKinnon who completely destroyed Bosa on a block in the middle of the pocket. Up to that point, I wasn't sure Bosa was even playing...

"Chiefs receiver Justin Watson, meanwhile, has noticed Moore is typically one of the last guys off the practice field after spending additional time with the quarterbacks. “He’s doing everything right,” Watson said, “and I know if he keeps doing that, that he’s gonna have a really good year.”

Watson didn’t hold back further praise for Moore on Thursday, calling him “the best rookie receiver I’ve been around in my five years.” “I think you see it — he’s got everything: hands, he’s got long arms to go up and get passes, he’s explosive, good after the catch,” Watson said. “So I think he’s got a really, really bright future this year and going forward in this league.”

Watson noted strong work ethic from Moore as well, saying he’s seen him put in extra time with receivers coach Joe Bleymaier to learn the playbook and also the differences between a college and pro system. Watson credited Moore for doing a “phenomenal job” of picking up the plays after spending a few months with the team."

https://i.imgflip.com/allt4.jpg?a435072

Is there a link to the article this is from?

Neat.

So why'd he run ZERO routes last week?

If he's this good, get his ass on the field. Because we don't have anybody capable of beating man on the back-side of plays right now and so they're being left on an island. This is letting teams clog Mahomes play side and they'll start bracketing Kelce more and more.

We NEED someone at the X or Y positions that can punish a team for playing 1v1 man coverage out there. It's just not happening. If that's Moore - ****ing aces, lets get it done.

So the Josh Gordon experiment failed but I hope KC still occasionally tries no risk high reward WR reclamation projects like Randy Moss or Antonio Brown.

Looking forward to KC signing Pickens to a one year prove it deal in a few years.

:D

Lol wut. It was an overthrow that he extended for and slid off his fingertips.

You know what offense has had the most man to man played agains them thru 2 weeks? Any guesses

No more kicks for this kid.

This guy needs to get offensive snaps. Outside of JuJu our WR are seriously complete dog shit.

Andy Reid unwilling to incorporate a rookie WR into his offense… it’s been that way his entire career in Philly and KC.

Juju was bad outside of one play too. We have no consistent threats outside of Kelce.

If he was any good he’d be on the field.

Thanks for the loss, loser rookie

They're crap. Some of us knew they were crap when we signed them.

Brett Veach, as good as he is at times, can't evaluate WR talent worth a shit. Or at least up to this point hasn't demonstrated the ability to bring anything to the table at that position.

Alec Pierce looked good today. Another guy we passed on. Another guy i woulda preferred over Skyy.

It's gonna be a looooooong time before he makes up for this shit.

Kid singlehandedly killed 2 of our first 3 drives. 10 either has no clue about when to return the ball or Tuob is just a horrible coach by encouraging it.

I liked Moore, did not like the MVS or Juju signings. So I guess I'm not hitting them all either. Every single team that is getting to the SB has an elite WR. A lot have two. We have a guy with all the measurable whose never produced with a HOF QB, and I guy whose never performed well without a legit WR1 beside him.

I get it, not loads we could do given other teams ability to pay. But we need to keep swinging at this position early and often.

You can can count the number of punt returns this guy had in college on one hand.

Is him being back there a product of him earning a starting spot via special teams or did the Chiefs actually see something in him returning punts during camp, preseason, etc?

Seems like a coaching blunder on the surface.

Plenty they could have done. Take Metcalf or McLaurin over Hardman in 2019. Or take Higgins, Pittman, or Claypool over CEH in 2020. We’re in this mess because Brett Veach can’t identify receiver talent.

We could have had pickens this ****ing worthless ass Moore MR ghost on the field just a shit pick.

This Moore Sucks Pringle sucks hardman sucks and MVS and JUJU look to be trash fire Free agent pick ups.

just massive blunders.

Took a 5’10 guy instead of staying in our spot and drafting either 6’3 receiver

5’10 guys need to have elite speed to get drafted that high. Take your Julian Edelmans in the later rounds or get them as UDFA. 2nd round is for physical freaks like Pickens and Pierce

Same with CEH. Dude was drafted way too high. Drafting in the 1st round, either get a traditional NFL sized back or a 5’7 SPEED DEMON. CEH is neither

https://www.fantasyalarm.com/article...-season/132736


KC media hyped up this Looser ass POS so much.

Never Trust the media when it comes to sucking off KC rookies.

Moore and Pacheco are both completely clueless on special teams. It's puzzling.

**** that guy.he would be throwing tantrums with his usage

It's not a skyy Moore problem. Our coaches need to get our guy on the ****ing field. he didn't look great as a punt returner. But I can't imagine he can play worse than mecole has the last 2 weeks

Pringle was a UDFA. That was a good value for the Chiefs. I’d take that production from a UDFA every time

But 2nd rounders need to produce

Skye lost it in the sky?

You have one job kid. Catch the ball.

Oh, and by the way if you put one hand up in the air, the dudes trying to kill you will not.


"Practice, we talkin' 'bout practice"

He isn't even getting snaps. Wtf is wrong with you. We have no idea what we have until our coaches stop playing the shit WRs who keep contributing nothing

That's not how Andy rolls. He has a history of dping this. Btw Pickens isn't getting a ton of snaps either

it should be obvious if our WR's are this bad and he can't even make it onto the field.

How good do you think he is ?

Rookie WR's don't get alot of playing time with Reid. He needs to get Skyy in the game more though

Well, he didn’t do shit in the preseason either. And there’s clearly a reason he’s not getting snaps.

Andy Reid has done this since the beginning of time. It is not a reflection of being better or worse. We have no idea what we have until we put him out there. And I don't understand what there is to lose when the guys in front of you are replaceable

Sure, agreed, I meant re Hill. Obviously Veach could have drafted better

Why is he even on the team?

He’s lost, not book smart.

Seemed good on special teams to start the year.

I'm going with losing the ball in an open dome roof as my reasoning for now. No need to write him off yet.

Even on the second return, why not call a fair catch? Like I said, he’s not smart. One would think he would learn from his first mistake.

Counterpoint.

Did you stop grilling after burning down your apartment, or did you buy a new grill for your new house?

Cause Toub tells them to try to make a play no matter how stupid it is. It's been this way for years. Guys taking the ball out of the endzones and not making it back to the 25. Guys fielding punts inside the 10 and even the 5 yard line. We just over look it because as long as they didn't fumble the ball away, Mahomes usually still got us down the field for the score.

Toub still acts like the ST NEEDS to make aggressive plays in order for us to win instead of telling players to take touchbacks or not trying to catch the ball inside the 5. He should get fired if he doesn't change and seeing as he's been doing this his whole career, he's not going to change.

I don't get the fascinating with using him as a PR. He didn't really do it in college either. He hasn't even got any offensive snaps so I dont really have anything I can say good or bad about him yet.

Skyy Poor


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Bust

Another bad WR draft pick by the Chiefs. Outside of Hill, who they lucked into, this team is awful at drafting and developing WRs. He still should be given a chance over Hardman, another bust, and MVS who is trash.

I still have hope that he’ll be a decent WR- possibly a Hunter Renfrow type. I wonder if he’s having trouble learning the offense.

He looks dumb as hell.

Andy not playing a rookie WR.

I'm shocked I tell you, shocked.

Just to be clear, he's a bust after his third game in his rookie season? I mean, Chiefs Fans are notoriously stupid, but we're not THIS stupid, are we?

Sky Less

Does he know so little of the playbook that he can't get play time over anybody on offense?

We need a playmaker badly. Let him go out and see what he has. How could he be any worse than what we're getting from our WRs so far?

Yeah I think it's funny he's getting so much shit while not seeing many snaps. What about Hardman and MVS literally doing nothing while playing every series?!

Huh? Pickens might not be getting a lot of targets but he’s getting a lot of snaps.

Pittsburgh Steelers rookie wide receiver George Pickens has played 95 snaps through the first two weeks of the NFL season but has only been targeted five times - a fact Pickens made it clear he's well aware of.

Andy is very reluctant to play rookies.

Unless there is an injury, or something really unusual like what happened when the OL got replaced.

He-just-doesn't-usually-do-it.

So it isn't much of a reflection on Skyy one way or the other.

I seem to remember him catching a few balls during preseason, he’s got good hands and is quick in his cuts, He had 1 target against the cardinals, made the catch for 30 yds. He had no targets against chargers, can’t say how many snaps he had? Can’t make catches sitting on the bench.

Jefferson came in and made an impact. Chase came in and made an impact. Why is it we never have a rookie skill player do that? They don't start and it gets called learning the offense but other teams can do it.

Counterpoint

Shut the **** up

Good call. Correction, he's playing a decent number of snaps but half of them have been fades or go routes. They're not really throwing him into much either. Still, I have no regrets passing on the guy. Three games in and he's already chirping.