Oh you don't !@#$ing say.

Phones aren't ringing off the hook for the right to give the dude $13.5 million next season?

Gimme a 2nd with him and we'll talk.

Anyone that is genuinely serious about taking on Bell next season without getting substantial compensation in return simply isn't paying attention to the cap situation we're gonna find ourselves in. And no, the foregone conclusion of cutting Sammy Watkins does nothing to alleviate that.

I bet we could send them Dam. Will or Shady and a 5th

In reality this team is going to honestly have to go into a mini rebuild pretty soon.

Our cap next year isn't a problem. We can structure Pat's contract to be very low. Cut watkins and you are good. Maybe they plan on trading Jones.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> traded Bell the acquiring team would need about $1.84M in cap space to make the trade and would only pay about $1.34M. Bell&#39;s cap hit in 2020 would be $13.5M with $13M guaranteed. Cap hit in 2021 would be $11.5M of which $8M is guaranteed for injury only right now</p>&mdash; Jason_OTC (@Jason_OTC) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jason_OTC/status/1189214104793292801?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Beware the Woody Johnson

Don't worry, Chiefs office just went to lunch.

So you'd have to actually only endure 1 season of gtd money....a little more interdasting.

I'm no cap expert and not sure i'd even want this to go down, but 2021's cap space is looking pretty good. Couldn't they restructure potentially or backload Mahomes contract, spread out signing bonus and what not.

:facepalm:

You can't make a $40 million/season contract 'very low'. It doesn't matter how you push the base salaries out especially since A) you're once again just buying on credit and will have to pay that piper in the following seasons and B) A TON of that money will be in signing bonus that can only be spread over 5 seasons anyway and then pro-rata.

If the Chiefs are EXTREMELY lucky and Mahomes signs a team friendly deal, it'll likely yield a year 1 cap hit in the $25 million range. From about $5 million.

Yes, the cap is absolutely a problem next year. And it will be a problem every year after that because we'll have the highest paid player in football on our team.

And they're almost certainly going to have trade Jones even if they DON'T acquire Bell. And where the hell do you then plan on finding 2 starting caliber CBs and 2 new starting linebackers? Not to mention a credible depth CB and replacing Jones AND Ogbah.

For ****'s sake people, pay attention to this roster and how the cap is going to shake out. This is insanity.

Those last touches starting a 3:45 are pretty special - and then the fumble :banghead:

The one thing about Veach is that he’s aggressive as **** so if he truly wants Bell he will get it done!! Andy probably told Veach hey get me Bell and Veach is trying to strike something up as we speak!!

We've all known for a long time, the minute Mahomes gets paid we're going to have to rely on draft picks and scrap heap finds to fill some holes, no way around that.

When you're talking about a potential $200 million contract, there's no way to 'massage' the numbers.

Like I said, at best you'll get it to $25 million and that burn like a mother****er over the remainder of that deal as you're looking at $45 million cap hits.

Y'all are gonna have Mahomes running around with no line, Tyreek Hill and an aging Travis Kelce while having to put up 38 points/gm because we have no money left to fix the defense.

But hey, we'll have a newly rich RB who's in his decline years who ****ing quit on his team last season and was replaced by a 3rd rounder who was just as productive as he was.

DJ is correct here.

If Veach/Reid get hypnotized regarding Bell, they severely cripple this team's ability to field a competent team down the road. Bell is a disaster waiting to happen.

and Terez plays the role of buzzkill again. He's saying it's "very unlikely" they deal for Bell.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In my opinion it’s very unlikely the Chiefs move on a RB today. Shady, Damien Williams and Darrel Williams are all experienced and know the offense. Also, they still like rookie Darwin Thompson a great deal. <a href="https://t.co/rclrcsQxe9">https://t.co/rclrcsQxe9</a></p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1189222511986298881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thank God for Terez.

Reid told Veach to "get this team a LB" and Veach misunderstood him.

So maybe don't start by torching $14 million on an aging runningback who pretty much only ever cared about getting paid to begin with.

Because that money is locked in next season and everyone knows he's not seeing the 3rd year. I'm sure he'll really give it his all...

No reason to get worried about it.....Bell to the Chiefs isn’t happening.

The cap is going to skyrocket in 2 years anyhow, but if you don't buy into the teams ability to find cheap guys that can play then shut it down, you won't win if you have the highest paid guy in football and can't draft.

No, but it's fun watching DJ spaz out at the suggestion.

Part of me wants the Chiefs to do it just so DJ will have to explain to his wife how and why he managed to shit all over his khakis.

Yea Terez you’re right!! The Chiefs like Darwin so much that he’s maybe seen the field 1 snap per game

I’m not sure we have the O-Line for Bell. He likes to sit patient behind the line and hit the hole. Our Rb’s are getting hit behind the LOS.

They just did a rebuild.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I’d love to see Le’Veon playing for a team who knows how to utilize his talents b/c my guy is wasting away on the Jets. can you imagine Bell with the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> ����</p>&mdash; Donté Stallworth (@DonteStallworth) <a href="https://twitter.com/DonteStallworth/status/1189223348515028992?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Nobody bats 1.000.

And the draft isn't for quick fixes anyway; it's for long-term results. You're not drafting more than 1 or MAYBE 2 players that make a significant impact next season.

You absolutely have to have some flexibility to work in FA and/or the 'underperforming young veterans' market and find guys to fill immediate needs. For instance, CB is a massive problem next season and will take an investment in picks or cap - more likely BOTH. We don't just need 1, we'll need 3. Everyone's on 1 year deals right now and they're all 'make-good' deals where they expect to get paid next season.

You're not gonna do that with draft picks. Not replace 3 substantial contributors. So you're gonna have to pay at least 1 vet a pretty decent chunk and draft another guy pretty high. Well now how do you fix the obvious LB problem if you've burned your top pick on the CB? Oh, and your interior OL STILL sucks and you have no money to go aquire someone to protect your young hotness.

You absolutely cannot just hand-waive the cap next year. The Chiefs will need at LEAST $35 million in available cap prior to FA, drafts and a potential Mahomes extension. They have work to do to get there without Jones and Bell - it'll be impossible with them.

Yep that is why I am not concerned at all about the cap. New CBA probably very soon and new TV deals right after that. Plus during the off season they will probably find a new streaming partner and dump DirecTV. The cap is gone up over $10 million every year as well.

Would be ok with it if they sent us a pick with him?

Similar to the Osweiler deal.

Trade a third and a player for Bell

Oh look, a Penbrook post.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just FYI, I&#39;m hearing the Jets&#39; price for Le&#39;Veon Bell is understandably high. The odds of the Chiefs making such a move is very low.<br><br>&quot;Nah,&quot; is what 1 source told me.<a href="https://t.co/UtzX4iD7oH">https://t.co/UtzX4iD7oH</a></p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1189224609834516480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I dont think it would take that much. Jets are just trying to get out of that deal. Having Bell is stupid for them. Now for US, it makes sense.

Two years in a row they've wanted to be buyers at the deadline but it isn't working out.

Hey fellas, maybe do your work in the offseason at obvious spots instead?

good, because it's freaking reeruned

I'd rather trade for Slay

If we trade for anyone it’s got to be LB or OL.

Why in the sweat tits would we want to pay a RB that much money anyway?

Find some DL help on the cheap and move on.

They want what Jacksonville got for Ramsey. No thanks.

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How ironic would this be. Bell and Chris Jones are friends, trained together in the offseason, and have the same agent. If we got Bell, he'd be stamping Jones ticket out of town. Wonder if Bells agent wants to avoid him going to the chiefs.

Wanna trade 2 1sts sure??

Jets were the only team willing to give Bell that stupid contract. Now they want someone to take on that contract AND give up a high draft pick? NO FREAKING WAY.

Well duh but that's not happening.

Not trade related but Andy Dalton benched

Didn't know they were asking so much...screw that

Yeah im thinking of this as more of "you pay us to take him" kinda thing.

I wouldn't give up more than a 5th for the right to pay him a stupid contract. Anything higher than that and they can get ****ed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All Chiefs fans knowing that we need defense but seeing that LeVeon Bell is on the block! <a href="https://t.co/blW13ceNUo">pic.twitter.com/blW13ceNUo</a></p>&mdash; Dean (@KCFansCorner) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCFansCorner/status/1189226119859445762?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Jets are listening to offers for Le&#39;Veon Bell, and the Chiefs have emerged as the strongest suitors (via <a href="https://twitter.com/RVacchianoSNY?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RVacchianoSNY</a>) <a href="https://t.co/ZcVdAqDiYk">https://t.co/ZcVdAqDiYk</a> <a href="https://t.co/7pXkFn87Ly">pic.twitter.com/7pXkFn87Ly</a></p>&mdash; SNY (@SNYtv) <a href="https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1189225736865026048?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

We don't need bell we need defense. Also shady only had one fumble it not the end of the world.

5th or less or you can take your overpaid RB and go home.

Cut Kareem Hunt - a cheap and ungodly productive young RB: "Who cares? RBs are an afterthought in this scheme and Williams was great as his replacement last year...."

Jets make an aging $14 million RB available who's been ass in NY and wasn't better than his replacement in Pitt: "MY GOD VEACH! WHY ISN'T THIS DONE ALREADY!!!!"

I remember 6 weeks ago when running-backs were fungible assets who we shouldn't be taking ahead of the 3rd round. Now they're evidently worth $14 million flyers JUST IN CASE he's still good and isn't loafing because he got his payday.

We move the goalposts pretty quick 'round these parts...

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Marty says Bell ain’t happening

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Guys - some of you are not cap experts - don&#39;t &quot;swap&quot; Watkins deal for Bell&#39;s. That&#39;s not how the Chiefs work/operate. The Chiefs don&#39;t want this contract nor do they want to do a &quot;rip and new&quot; deal with Bell. <a href="https://t.co/fsWUg2iL4r">https://t.co/fsWUg2iL4r</a></p>&mdash; The OG Chiefs Kingdom (@1_ChiefsKingdom) <a href="https://twitter.com/1_ChiefsKingdom/status/1189227094460583937?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

3 more hours!!!

So Bell to KC is a lock

Welcome to KC Bell.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Breaking: I am hearing the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Saints?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Saints</a> are actively shopping CB Ken Crawley heavy. They are trying to get something for him before the trade deadline at 4pm and if he cannot be dealt he could be waived/released.</p>&mdash; NFL Draft Diamonds (@DraftDiamonds) <a href="https://twitter.com/DraftDiamonds/status/1189223883192389632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DO IT VEACH!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't think we are getting a corner or a RB... If we do anything it will be for a LB or a runstopping DT... JMO

As much as we need help far beyond RB and as much as overpaying for RBs is typically bad business, it would be pretty ****ing cool to see Bell as part of that offense when everyone is healthy.

We aren’t doing anything....period.

If we can get him cheap, do it.

The offense would be biblical.

Not expecting it to happen though. Seems like a longshot.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Redskins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Redskins</a> are now open to dealing LT Trent Williams, but they aren’t just asking for draft picks. I’m told they are big-game hunting, asking for players like CB Denzel Ward in return. Which… is a non-starter.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1189229682610393095?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's weird for me. I don't want to take on this salary, but in terms of running backs I've begrudgingly changed my position on it.

They're so depended on the OL though, I don't know that i'd spend much but a good rb is a nice thing to have.

Oh, Redskins...

ha

Did you forget the indy game? That is two fumbles that were very influential in the outcome of those two games.

We don't need another freakin RB. The offence is already best in class. Defence and OL should be top priority.

Pretty clear that there’s no move to be made for KC... or maybe anyone else

All this guy does is take the most obvious, safe answer and runs with it. It was comedic watching his narrative change as the national narrative changed during the Ramsey fiasco.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three hours to the deadline, and I think pretty much everything is on the table for the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jets?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jets</a> — except Darnold and Q. Williams. No one else is untouchable, including Jamal Adams.</p>&mdash; Rich Cimini (@RichCimini) <a href="https://twitter.com/RichCimini/status/1189227865507876869?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You know how we get abused by RB's cause our LB's are slow? I know a guy that could fix it.

He'd cost a lot though.

This.

The odds of the Chiefs making ANY move is very, very low. Hell, not just the Chiefs but any team in the league really.

Somewhere John Elway just got a raging erection...

We running three safeties?

Why would the Bears not throw a 3 at them for Dalton?

LMAO

Sure.

Let Adams play that LB hybrid

The Jets are clearly going to cut Bell at the end of the year. When they do I hope Veach tries to get him for a team friendly deal.

He got a lot of guaranteed money from the Jets, so he got paid. Maybe he would like to not play for a loser after living that life in 2019.