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Buckweath 03-05-2018 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13452211)
The only reason why I’m not expecting Watkins is that I think he’s likely a prove it deal candidate, and I can’t see him signing a 1 yr deal to be the 4th option in our offense.

But if they can make it happen, I’m all for it.

I would love Watkins but I also find it unlikely he would sign here. I must say though that the guy would have the potential to be the 1st option in our offense. It is just that he for sure would be playing with other quality options.

RunKC 03-05-2018 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13452206)
I don't trust Watkins on anything other than a 1 year deal and I think that teams with massive cap space, like the 49ers, Browns, et al, will put in better offers.

I think Watkins can thrive with a warm weather team but I wouldn't trust him, at all, in KC during November, December and January.

He's fragile.

I didn’t pay attention to him at LA but a guy like him would be amazing.

The report of Veach wanting a downfield type of receiver makes me think that Albert Wilson isn’t in our plans. The guy is an Alex Smith receiver who isn’t a deep threat.

I’m really wondering who would fit that role.

Buckweath 03-05-2018 08:45 PM

Jordan Matthews could be a great get IMO. Possibly cheap and with good potential.

BryanBusby 03-05-2018 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13452206)
I don't trust Watkins on anything other than a 1 year deal and I think that teams with massive cap space, like the 49ers, Browns, et al, will put in better offers.

I think Watkins can thrive with a warm weather team but I wouldn't trust him, at all, in KC during November, December and January.

He's fragile.

I think it's pretty damning if the Rams let him walk a year after trading a starting corner and a 2nd round to get.

It would be the right decision, too. Joyner is the player they should be tagging.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-05-2018 08:48 PM

Watch this video: https://youtu.be/wzrwEpKYHWk

That’s what we’ve saw that Watkins can do when a QB gives him opportunities. He’d be one-on-one year every snap damn near with Reek and Kelce garnering attention.

I’m all about it.

Chief Northman 03-05-2018 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13452239)
Jordan Matthews could be a great get IMO. Possibly cheap and with good potential.

Rich Eisen is faster than Jordan Matthews.

Do not want.

Couch-Potato 03-06-2018 07:02 AM

Watkins, Dez or Robinson would be crazy exciting, but how about Pryor? Would come cheap, he's fast, and we know he can be a home run hitter.

BossChief 03-06-2018 09:24 AM

Why do people think signing Dez Bryant would be exciting?

staylor26 03-06-2018 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13452698)
Why do people think signing Dez Bryant would be exciting?

Because they have no clue that he’s old and washed.

Red Dawg 03-06-2018 09:28 AM

Dez sucks. Over hyped lazy ass.

Mother****erJones 03-06-2018 09:28 AM

Dez Bryant...yuck

Dunerdr 03-06-2018 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13452523)
Watkins, Dez or Robinson would be crazy exciting, but how about Pryor? Would come cheap, he's fast, and we know he can be a home run hitter.

Pryor was pretty meh last year from what I saw of the skins. But wouldn't be a bad 4th option at all.

patteeu 03-06-2018 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 13452523)
Watkins, Dez or Robinson would be crazy exciting, but how about Pryor? Would come cheap, he's fast, and we know he can be a home run hitter.

Terrelle Pryor? I vote no. I don't think he's the kind of guy the Chiefs want in their young offensive locker room.

Shox27 03-06-2018 10:03 AM

Signing a top WR is a luxury we can't afford!!!

Mahomes showed he can produce with the receiving talent we have, he needs help on D and maybe 1 replacement up front.

1. Have to spend money on 1 high end CB: my choice is Fuller, or Talib if he become available and does not demand top money.

2. ILB - Anthony Hitchens, under-rated and can play inside or outside.
Navarro Bowmen, run-stuffer who would improve our run D.
Sign-em both.

3. Love to have Trey Burton, but I think he will only want a path to a starting job.

4. One of the guards....Norwell way to much $$$.

Use draft picks on a WR, DT, S/CB.

Shoes 03-06-2018 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Shox27 (Post 13452763)
Signing a top WR is a luxury we can't afford!!!

Mahomes showed he can produce with the receiving talent we have, he needs help on D and maybe 1 replacement up front.

1. Have to spend money on 1 high end CB: my choice is Fuller, or Talib if he become available and does not demand top money.

2. ILB - Anthony Hitchens, under-rated and can play inside or outside.
Navarro Bowmen, run-stuffer who would improve our run D.
Sign-em both.

3. Love to have Trey Burton, but I think he will only want a path to a starting job.

4. One of the guards....Norwell way to much $$$.

Use draft picks on a WR, DT, S/CB.

For discussion sake what do you think Sammy Watkins is going to earn next season? Highly touted draft pick but has shown an inability to stay healthy, and on a very good Rams team last season was 4th on his own team with under 600 receiving yards (about 40 yards per game)- 8 TD's though. Roughly 55% catch percentage only on 70 targets, none of these stats suggest #1 receiver type.

Maybe there is a team who is willing to throw big money at him- I wouldn't be surprised if Watkins signs a short term "prove-it" deal so that he can command a better, bigger contract 1-2 years down the road. Sammy might not be as expensive as people think.

Setsuna 03-06-2018 11:33 AM

I hope we can trade Robinson before the deadline. I'd love to fleece a team for some more picks.

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 13452955)
I hope we can trade Robinson before the deadline. I'd love to fleece a team for some more picks.

:facepalm:

JFC, moron, teams can't trade players that are not under contract.

O.city 03-06-2018 11:39 AM

I think the Chiefs are gonna be after a WR. Theres a lot of smoke around it it seems.

The Franchise 03-06-2018 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 13452955)
I hope we can trade Robinson before the deadline. I'd love to fleece a team for some more picks.

Good luck with that.

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Jaguars have informed impending free agent Allen Robinson they will not tag him.

This has been the expectation for the last several days, but now the Jaguars have made it official. Even coming off an ACL tear, it is surprising Jacksonville is letting a player of Robinson's caliber hit the open market. Robinson has already been linked with the Redskins, and the Bears are likely to make a strong run at him as well.

Kiimo 03-06-2018 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13452239)
Jordan Matthews could be a great get IMO. Possibly cheap and with good potential.

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O.city 03-06-2018 12:15 PM

Rams tagged Joyner

Watkins hits the market. After they just traded a 2nd rounder. That's not ideal.

AssEaterChief 03-06-2018 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13453068)
Rams tagged Joyner

Watkins hits the market. After they just traded a 2nd rounder. That's not ideal.

Their three leading receivers last year were Kupp, Gurley, and Robert Woods.

Watkins is replaceable.

staylor26 03-06-2018 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AssEaterChief (Post 13453092)
Their three leading receivers last year were Kupp, Gurley, and Robert Woods.

Watkins is replaceable.

Yea, but that’s a huge waste of a 2nd.

MahiMike 03-06-2018 12:51 PM

Allen Robinson will not be tagged

Kiimo 03-06-2018 12:52 PM

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REPORT: Vikings set to offer Kirk Cousins huge 3-year, $91 million fully guaranteed deal

The Franchise 03-06-2018 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13453147)

Makes sense. They’ve got the cap room and the team to compete with.

thegame214 03-06-2018 01:06 PM

What am I missing on Kirk Cousins? I don't find him THAT good

AssEaterChief 03-06-2018 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13453171)
What am I missing on Kirk Cousins? I don't find him THAT good

It's not that he is that good…. it is more that he is available and plays QB

nychief 03-06-2018 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13453147)


Never go full reerun.

Bewbies 03-06-2018 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13453147)

I'd love to see the NFL move to guaranteed contracts that are shorter. The guys are at their best when playing for a new deal.

How many jokers sign an 5-7 year deal and by year 3 you can't wait to see em cut?

BigCatDaddy 03-06-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thegame214 (Post 13453171)
What am I missing on Kirk Cousins? I don't find him THAT good

Define "That Good"

staylor26 03-06-2018 01:27 PM

Sounds like Norwell to the Giants is a done deal.

60 mil

jaa1025 03-06-2018 01:28 PM

Receiver and DB positions are deep this year. Pass rush is pretty gross including what's in the draft.

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13453210)
Sounds like Norwell to the Giants is a done deal.

60 mil

Yeah, not surprised. I think someone (can't remember who) immediately put him with Gettleman and the Giants early on.

Shoes 03-06-2018 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025 (Post 13453212)
Receiver and DB positions are deep this year. Pass rush is pretty gross including what's in the draft.

Dee Ford is gonna ball out this year in his contract year..... I hope

The Franchise 03-06-2018 01:31 PM

Just get rid of the "tampering" period bullshit.

staylor26 03-06-2018 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13453217)
Yeah, not surprised. I think someone (can't remember who) immediately put him with Gettleman and the Giants early on.

Yea that was a good call, but makes a lot of sense. Same as Wilson to the Bears. That’s probably a done deal too.

Setsuna 03-06-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13452970)
Good luck with that.

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Jaguars have informed impending free agent Allen Robinson they will not tag him.

This has been the expectation for the last several days, but now the Jaguars have made it official. Even coming off an ACL tear, it is surprising Jacksonville is letting a player of Robinson's caliber hit the open market. Robinson has already been linked with the Redskins, and the Bears are likely to make a strong run at him as well.

We can still trade him before the 12th right? He's technically still a Jaguar right?

pugsnotdrugs19 03-06-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13453210)
Sounds like Norwell to the Giants is a done deal.

60 mil

That’s definitely tampering.

Sassy Squatch 03-06-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13453217)
Yeah, not surprised. I think someone (can't remember who) immediately put him with Gettleman and the Giants early on.

I thought that was the move for Norwell. Just makes way too much sense.

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13453220)
Just get rid of the "tampering" period bullshit.

Yeah, it's stupid.

All of the Post Season rules are stupid, from teams interviewing coaches, yet aren't allowed to make an announcement due to the fact that his team is still in the playoffs to trades, "tampering", etc.

The New League Year should start the Monday after the Super Bowl, period.

Does anyone really give a shit that the Patriots would be "behind" in Free Agency and the draft because they're in the Super Bowl every year?

And how does being in the Super Bowl affect the GM, Director of Pro Scouting and Director College Scouting? Those guys aren't focused on acquiring players for the Super Bowl, they're focused on the offseason.

It just makes no sense, whatsoever.

staylor26 03-06-2018 01:36 PM

So what do we do a LG? I really don’t want to have to draft one in the first 3 rounds.

nychief 03-06-2018 01:36 PM

no fuller.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/971106711078612993

RunKC 03-06-2018 01:37 PM

I think the Chiefs are going to really push for Star Lotulelei. They know they can’t really on a 2nd rd pick to start day 1 at this position and the market is really thin.

staylor26 03-06-2018 01:37 PM

FML

We’re going to have to settle for E.J. Gaines

The Franchise 03-06-2018 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 13453236)

Why does that mean no Fuller?

You can offer him a deal and if they don't match it....they don't get shit.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-06-2018 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13453238)
I think the Chiefs are going to really push for Star Lotulelei. They know they can’t really on a 2nd rd pick to start day 1 at this position and the market is really thin.

I would do it. He seems like an ideal fit at NT in a 3-4, much like Peko was for Denver. Doesn’t need to be out there rushing the passer much, but he can plug the middle.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-06-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13453239)
FML

We’re going to have to settle for E.J. Gaines

I’d say we draft a CB.. maybe sign one. Who the hell knows I guess.

nychief 03-06-2018 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13453241)
Why does that mean no Fuller?

You can offer him a deal and if they don't match it....they don't get shit.


Granted. Just makes it clear they want to keep him and they have cap space, more so than we do...it will make it more difficult, if not impossible. But you are right, who knows.

nychief 03-06-2018 01:41 PM

https://twitter.com/DannyParkins/sta...08129936150529

Kiimo 03-06-2018 01:41 PM

DAMMIT

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 13453229)
We can still trade him before the 12th right? He's technically still a Jaguar right?

:facepalm:

The Franchise 03-06-2018 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13453234)
So what do we do a LG? I really don’t want to have to draft one in the first 3 rounds.

No one is going to like it....but I bet they'll have a camp battle between Witzmann and Ehinger.

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13453259)
No one is going to like it....but I bet they'll have a camp battle between Witzmann and Ehinger.

I'm encouraged that the Chiefs interviewed guards at The Combine.

Who knows, maybe Veach will take a guard in the 2nd round because corners and safeties are abundant in this draft?

staylor26 03-06-2018 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13453259)
No one is going to like it....but I bet they'll have a camp battle between Witzmann and Ehinger.

To be honest, I think that’s in our best interest with all the holes elsewhere.

Take somebody on day 3 and let them all compete.

Shoes 03-06-2018 01:46 PM

Fuller transition tag really sucks.

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13453264)
To be honest, I think that’s in our best interest with all the holes elsewhere.

I'd say the fact that the Chiefs interviewed guards at The Combine doesn't bode well for Witzmann, Ehinger and Damien Mama.

staylor26 03-06-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13453269)
I'd say the fact that the Chiefs interviewed guards at The Combine doesn't bode well for Witzmann, Ehinger and Damien Mama.

While true, they interviewed a lot of guys at all the positions of need (G, S, CB, LB, DL, WR)

O.city 03-06-2018 01:49 PM

Chiefs don't have the money to go after Fuller now.

O.city 03-06-2018 01:50 PM

The Steelers smartly tagged Bell again. Just ride him til he breaks down.

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13453278)
While true, they interviewed a lot of guys at all the positions of need (G, S, CB, LB, DL, WR)

Right but if Veach views left guard as a huge need, he'll get more value in the 2nd than in the 4th for that position, whereas there will likely be at least one safety and one cornerback in the third (in which they have two selections) that won't be much different than a guy in the 2nd.

Keep in mind, with as many as 5 QB's going before the Chiefs pick in the 2nd, there will be some Blue Chip talent in the 2nd and the 3rd rounds.

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13453281)
Chiefs don't have the money to go after Fuller now.

Sure they do. The Chiefs can give him a huge guarantee with serious upfront cash and a low salary for 2018, like they did with Eric Berry last year.

It's just a matter of whether or not they see him as a long term solution.

O.city 03-06-2018 01:53 PM

The CHiefs are gonna have to hit on some cheaper players in free agency. Big dogs are gonna get PAID.

O.city 03-06-2018 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13453294)
Sure they do. The Chiefs can give him a huge guarantee with serious upfront cash and a low salary for 2018, like they did with Eric Berry last year.

It's just a matter of whether or not they see him as a long term solution.

They could but the Bears can match about whatever the Chiefs offer with their cap space.

Meatloaf 03-06-2018 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13453269)
I'd say the fact that the Chiefs interviewed guards at The Combine doesn't bode well for Witzmann, Ehinger and Damien Mama.

Dane, I thoght Mama got snatched off of our practice squad awhile back?

DaneMcCloud 03-06-2018 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13453306)
They could but the Bears can match about whatever the Chiefs offer with their cap space.

I think that if the Bears truly wanted him back, they'd sign him.

I think the problem is that they don't know his value on the open market.

If he's only offered one or two year deals at a minimal price, say $8 million per, they'd probably match it.

But if he's offered $12+ million per elsewhere, he probably walks.

To be honest, I don't know how to gauge his value, either. One good year out of 4, especially a contract year, puts added risk to any higher dollar deal.

O.city 03-06-2018 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13453314)
I think that if the Bears truly wanted him back, they'd sign him.

I think the problem is that they don't know his value on the open market.

If he's only offered one or two year deals at a minimal price, say $8 million per, they'd probably match it.

But if he's offered $12+ million per elsewhere, he probably walks.

To be honest, I don't know how to gauge his value, either. One good year out of 4, especially a contract year, puts added risk to any higher dollar deal.

Middlekauf said he'd heard at the combine Fuller would get more than Trumaine Johnson.

I bet he ends up at 12.

RunKC 03-06-2018 02:06 PM

I’m not spending that kinda money on Kyle Fuller. It’s best to just get solid role players, get rid of guys Veach doesn’t like for draft picks and win the draft.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-06-2018 02:09 PM

Fuller is younger so he should get more than Trumaine.

Paying Fuller crazy money doesn’t get me too excited personally.

Kiimo 03-06-2018 02:09 PM

I liked the idea of Fuller and Fuller but 12m for a guy who had traumatic knee injury and then had a weird "mental" problem because of said injury is not the guy to spend 12 million dollars on.

O.city 03-06-2018 02:14 PM

Yeah, I'd probably opt elsewhere.

But shit they're gonna have to find some players somewhere.

Mother****erJones 03-06-2018 02:18 PM

Damn that sucks. Fuller was a corner I liked. This is a good corner market though.

NIUhuskies 03-06-2018 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 13452733)
Terrelle Pryor? I vote no. I don't think he's the kind of guy the Chiefs want in their young offensive locker room.



He was saying that KC’s fans were yelling racial slurs at him during the game in KC last year. No way he signs here regardless


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BleedingRed 03-06-2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NIUhuskies (Post 13453354)
He was saying that KC’s fans were yelling racial slurs at him during the game in KC last year. No way he signs here regardless


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Link?

staylor26 03-06-2018 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13453290)
Right but if Veach views left guard as a huge need, he'll get more value in the 2nd than in the 4th for that position, whereas there will likely be at least one safety and one cornerback in the third (in which they have two selections) that won't be much different than a guy in the 2nd.

Keep in mind, with as many as 5 QB's going before the Chiefs pick in the 2nd, there will be some Blue Chip talent in the 2nd and the 3rd rounds.

I hear ya, but man...I will be really disappointed if we have to use our 2nd on anything but defense.

I think our first 3 picks should all be defense, because it doesn’t look like we’re going to fill many of those holes in free agency.

NIUhuskies 03-06-2018 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 13453363)
Link?



http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ins-identified


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Bewbies 03-06-2018 02:34 PM

The one thing KC has over all other places is Fuller's brother. So if they've wanted to play together that could go a long way.

Still have to pay him a ton, but if we like him enough we can afford it.

Kiimo 03-06-2018 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 13453375)
The one thing KC has over all other places is Fuller's brother. So if they've wanted to play together that could go a long way.

Still have to pay him a ton, but if we like him enough we can afford it.

Sign Corey to the practice squad, he ran track at KU after all.

staylor26 03-06-2018 02:47 PM

One guy that has the potential to come out of nowhere for us is Will Redmond.

I completely forgot we signed him until recently. Although it’s probably unlikely, he has a chance to turn it around considering he’s still young and the issue with him for the most part was an injury.

Titty Meat 03-06-2018 03:03 PM

I actually like the idea of Ej Gaines as he's just as good as most on the market with injury issues you're still going to have a top half of the league secondary with Amerson, Fuller, Nelson, and Berry in your secondary


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