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New World Order 08-08-2024 11:24 AM

Two number 1s AND a contract like that? LMAO

I mean maybe, MAYBE if I had an elite qb like Houston on a rookie deal. But even that is a huge stretch.

Unreal

DJ's left nut 08-08-2024 11:35 AM

They’re not getting 2 firsts for Aiyuk.

We didn’t get 2 firsts for Hill.

They can wish in one hand and shit in the other here because there’s a zero percent chance that happens.

mr. tegu 08-08-2024 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17621403)
That's a really dumb take.


One win when trailing with 8 minutes to go.

ThaVirus 08-08-2024 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17621468)
Holy **** you're absolutely clueless and delusional.

Funny how Deebo's 1,400 yard season is somehow proof that he's a great WR too that can run routes and separate, but Aiyuk hasn't even proven to be a "game changer" after a 1,342 yard season. Unlike Deebo, more than 50% of those yards didn't come from YAC either.

****ing :o)

You keep harping on the RAC thing as if that isn’t insanely impressive for Deebo.

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17621473)
It's more like comparing Lamar to CJ Stroud, but keep going with this stupid comparison.

I wanted to use Dak because I’ve read enough posts on this board to know the temperature on the two is pretty similar. They’re both known as playoff chokers too.

Comparing him to Stroud doesn’t work as well because a lot of people would choose Stroud for who they expect he will become rather than what he was last year, which was not as good as Lamar.

rfaulk34 08-08-2024 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17621427)
Keep telling yourself that.

Through his age 27 season, Andy Dalton had been to 2 Pro Bowls and thrown for 14,750 yards and 99 TDs.

Through Burrows age 27 season Burrow has thrown for 14,000 yards and 93 TDs with a single Pro Bowl.

Through Mahomes age 27 season he'd thrown for 24,200 yards and 192 TDs. He'd made 5 Pro Bowls, 2 All Pro teams and won 2 Super Bowls (and Super Bowl MVPs).

Yes, Joe Burrow is far far FAR closer to Andy Dalton than he his Patrick Mahomes. The fact that you fellas keep trying to pretend otherwise is the real joke. Joe Burrow is barely playing the same sport as Mahomes.

That's super cool how you use the "through age 27 season" and raw stats, like that makes your argument.

Andy Dalton was never more than an average regular season QB, with one exception where he got hurt after 12 games. He was bad in prime time, other than a few thursday night games and he sucked hard in the post season.

Burrow is unquestionably elite and has done so much more than Dalton, in his 4 years, it's not even funny to compare them. To anyone objectively looking at the 3, Burrow is much closer to Mahomes and Dalton doesn't even deserve to be mentioned with either of them.

Patrick Mahomes games played through age 27 season: 80
Andy Dalton games played through age 27 season: 64
Joe Burrow games played through age 27 season: 52

Sassy Squatch 08-08-2024 12:21 PM

Yeesh. That's actually far more damning for Burrow than I'd assumed. I thought he disparity of games would be very high but it's just a 12 game difference.

staylor26 08-08-2024 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17621558)
You keep harping on the RAC thing as if that isn’t insanely impressive for Deebo.



I wanted to use Dak because I’ve read enough posts on this board to know the temperature on the two is pretty similar. They’re both known as playoff chokers too.

Comparing him to Stroud doesn’t work as well because a lot of people would choose Stroud for who they expect he will become rather than what he was last year, which was not as good as Lamar.

I keep "harping on the YAC" because you think 1,400 yards is somehow proof that Deebo can run great routes and separate consistently. It's a lazy ****ing take.

Again, why is one 1,400 yard season a few years ago SO much better than 1,342 yards just last year? Aiyuk already has more 1,000 yard seasons than ****ing Deebo.

DRM08 08-08-2024 12:48 PM

Sounds like there is a stalemate in Aiyuk trade discussion. Maybe he stays with Niners?

Hoover 08-08-2024 12:54 PM

This deal won’t get done if the 49ers want a player in return.

Sassy Squatch 08-08-2024 12:57 PM

All depends on how uncomfortable Aiyuk is willing to make it for the 49ers. 49ers have done their part. Made him a fair offer, and when he rejected it agreed to a trade with a team that was willing to pay him top 5 money. Aiyuk didn't like the destination. At that point they may as well just say **** it to him and let him play out on the 5th year option and tag.

O.city 08-08-2024 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by rfaulk34 (Post 17621585)
That's super cool how you use the "through age 27 season" and raw stats, like that makes your argument.

Andy Dalton was never more than an average regular season QB, with one exception where he got hurt after 12 games. He was bad in prime time, other than a few thursday night games and he sucked hard in the post season.

Burrow is unquestionably elite and has done so much more than Dalton, in his 4 years, it's not even funny to compare them. To anyone objectively looking at the 3, Burrow is much closer to Mahomes and Dalton doesn't even deserve to be mentioned with either of them.

Patrick Mahomes games played through age 27 season: 80
Andy Dalton games played through age 27 season: 64
Joe Burrow games played through age 27 season: 52

Done so much more as in??? Statistically or what?

The Joe Burrow stuff has kinda went full Arthur Fonzarelli here and jumped the shark.

Couch-Potato 08-08-2024 01:21 PM

SF has the cap to pay him and T Williams, would have to get creative with next year's contracts but they can do it. I think they should too... pay the talent, use a high pick on a dynamic rookie QB on a cost controlled rookie deal... They've done all they can with Purdy.

DJ's left nut 08-08-2024 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17621591)
Yeesh. That's actually far more damning for Burrow than I'd assumed. I thought he disparity of games would be very high but it's just a 12 game difference.

Yup.

And availability matters.

They tell themselves what they need to...

ThaVirus 08-08-2024 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17621604)
I keep "harping on the YAC" because you think 1,400 yards is somehow proof that Deebo can run great routes and separate consistently. It's a lazy ****ing take.

I never said this. I have specifically avoided claiming he runs great routes because I know it isn’t true.

If he did, he’d be in the Tyreek/Justin Jefferson tier.

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Again, why is one 1,400 yard season a few years ago SO much better than 1,342 yards just last year? Aiyuk already has more 1,000 yard seasons than ****ing Deebo.
Deebo’s 2021 was pretty objectively superior to Aiyuk’s 2023 and I want to make sure you recognize that. They were pretty close in regards to purely receiving statistics but then you add the additional 365 rushing yards at 6.2 YPC and 8 TDs on the ground for Deebo and it’s no longer close. I think it’s important to note when we’re comparing the two’s peaks.

Deebo’s season earned AP1 honors. Aiyuk’s was just a really good season for a WR, literally zero consideration for All-Pro honors.

rfaulk34 08-08-2024 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17621749)
Yup.

And availability matters.

They tell themselves what they need to...

Availability and Ability are 2 different things. :eek:


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