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Tribal Warfare 04-06-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16892051)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pass Rush Win Rate per PFF in 2022<br><br>Nolan Smith: 25.5% ��<br>Tyree Wilson: 22.3%<br>Will Anderson: 20.4%<br>Keion White: 20.1%<br>Tuli Tuipolotu: 19.1%<br>BJ Ojulari: 18.9%<br>Lukas Van Ness: 18.8%<br>Derick Hall: 17.7%<br>Will McDonald: 16.8%</p>&mdash; Jordan de Lugo (@jordandelugo) <a href="https://twitter.com/jordandelugo/status/1643022138486542336?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I'll keep repeating that we should take notice and look at the PFF analytics and how it coincides with Veach's draft plans as it did last time.

Dunerdr 04-06-2023 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16892066)
I'll keep repeating that we should take notice and look at the PFF analytics and how it coincides with Veach's draft plans as it did last time.

I never used PFF much for mocks until you brought this up tbh. Thanks.

JPH83 04-07-2023 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 16892066)
I'll keep repeating that we should take notice and look at the PFF analytics and how it coincides with Veach's draft plans as it did last time.

Somebody kept telling me Smith can't pass rush. Sure it's not all put together but man that guy was never making it to us, insane that people would've passed if he had

Chris Meck 04-07-2023 06:25 AM

I'm just really feeling like trading UP in the first is not going to be great value, but trading UP in the second might be the key to a home run draft.

And if you used your third to move up in the second, maybe you can use your two fourths to move up back into the third.

htismaqe 04-07-2023 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16893345)
I'm just really feeling like trading UP in the first is not going to be great value, but trading UP in the second might be the key to a home run draft.

And if you used your third to move up in the second, maybe you can use your two fourths to move up back into the third.

:thumb:

Chris Meck 04-07-2023 07:15 AM

I mean...if you compare last year's first round with this year's first round, who from this year would go in the top twenty?

Other than the QB's, maybe like two or three guys?

It's just not a top heavy draft.

But I like a lot of prospects that'll probably go in round two.

duncan_idaho 04-07-2023 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16893382)
I mean...if you compare last year's first round with this year's first round, who from this year would go in the top twenty?

Other than the QB's, maybe like two or three guys?

It's just not a top heavy draft.

But I like a lot of prospects that'll probably go in round two.

Will Anderson
Carter
Tyree Wilson
Paris Johnson, Jr.
Skoronski
Broderick Jones
Porter Jr
Gonzalez
Stroud
Young
at least 1 of Levis/Richardson

So roughly 10 guys I think in this class who still land in the top 20 if you're combining the two classes... or about what you'd expect.

Couch-Potato 04-08-2023 07:15 PM

ESPN's SackSEER projections for the top DEs:

1. Anderson, 25.9 sacks / 5yrs
2. Van Ness, 24.5 / 5yrs
3. Murphy, 21.8 / 5yrs
4. Foskey, 20.8 / 5yrs
5. McDonald IV, 20.6 / 5yrs
6. Smith, 19.6 / 5yrs
7. Young (TEN), 19.2 / 5yrs
8. Wilson, 18.9 / 5yrs
Bonus: Adebawore, 15.1 / 5yrs

Interesting. I thought White would make this list, Tuipuloto as well.

Foskey's still my guy.


Spoiler!

Couch-Potato 04-08-2023 07:34 PM

DE K White coming in with a casual 9.92 RAS score.

staylor26 04-08-2023 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16895311)
DE K White coming in with a casual 9.92 RAS score.

What's his projection?

RunKC 04-08-2023 08:23 PM

Keion White is a physical freak but it bothers me using such a high asset on a rookie who will turn 25 this coming season.

Also see what DJ said about Foskey. He is a little stiff, but I still like him a ton.

I question how much the Chiefs would get a guy like Keion White or Adebawore with the signing of Omenihu. They seem like they would have the same role meaning that played wouldn’t start or get as much PT.

Maybe it’s just me but it feels like they’d be looking for a pure edge. And I doubt this kid goes in the first, but it sure seems like Derick Hall would fit that DE role to a “t”. He just seems like an ideal fit if that’s the direction they wanna go

staylor26 04-08-2023 08:24 PM

Keion White just turned 24 in January. He won't be 25 until next year.

RunKC 04-08-2023 08:35 PM

His birthday is ironically on a Sunday. He’ll literally be playing a playoff game as a 25 year old rookie if we draft him. That’s…old

staylor26 04-08-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16895373)
His birthday is ironically on a Sunday. He’ll literally be playing a playoff game as a 25 year old rookie if we draft him. That’s…old

Sure, but if he were 23, he'd be a top 15 pick.

Couch-Potato 04-09-2023 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16895389)
Sure, but if he were 23, he'd be a top 15 pick.

Good point!

I don't feel like he's getting talked about much by pundits for some reason, maybe it's his age?


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