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RunKC 04-30-2021 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653116)
I don't see a ton of good edge rushers left at all. I see 2 or 3 really. At least guys that are realistically 2nd rounders.

Yeah there’s a handful of LB’s and DE’s. The value of today is at corner and OL though.

I feel really good about a receiving weapon falling to us though. Tremble, Freiermuth, Brown or Marshall. I think one of them makes it to our range

The Franchise 04-30-2021 10:19 AM

We don’t need a LB?

Who the **** can play the position outside of Gay and Hitchens? If one of those dudes is injured then we’re down to Darius Harris or Ben Niemann.

Yes....we still need a LB.

O.city 04-30-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653135)
I wouldn't focus on LB but if a BPA guy falls, you need to look at him.

I mean if for some reason JOK were to be within reach, you take that guy. He's a utility player, not just a LB. Cox is a coverage LB unlike anybody currently on the team. He'd be a consideration as well because those guys wouldn't necessarily come off the field in passing situations.

JOK would theoretically play the Sorenson role, which would make sense.

But if we're talking about an off ball LB'er? Nah, I'd look for one of those later.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-30-2021 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15653138)
They don't play with 3 LB'ers on the field much at all. You've got Gay and Hitchens in there this season.

If there's someone you could take to replace HItchens I guess go for it, but that seems a bit redundant.

So you’re okay with Ben “better than Devin White per PFF” Niemann on the field then?

ToxSocks 04-30-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15653130)
Why wouldn't it?

An off ball LB'er isn't that valuable and the one you took last year needs playing time. It would be a waste.

Because as it stands right now Ben ****ing Neiman is set to see significant playing time.

And we'll see how valuable you think that position is when you're cursing his name every Sunday.

And where they allocated a pick to that position has nothing to do with anything.

Hey, we'll have two 2nd round LB's. Cool.

O.city 04-30-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15653144)
We don’t need a LB?

Who the **** can play the position outside of Gay and Hitchens? If one of those dudes is injured then we’re down to Darius Harris or Ben Niemann.

Yes....we still need a LB.

If that's the way we're approaching this, then there are about 6 spots we "need". Who's your LT if Brown goes down?

We aren't gonna have depth everywhere.

Start looking at upgrades instead of depth.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15653136)
Really not sure why you think Ojulari isn’t a fit. He’s good against the run and he has some freakishly long arms. He can absolutely play 4-3 DE.

He's light. He plays well against the run as a penetrator but when an OL gets their hands on him, he's often done. He doesn't have the bend or push to actually set the edge and win matchups.

I'm just not as high on him as others are I guess. I see him more as a 3-4 OLB.

chiefforlife 04-30-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15653138)
They don't play with 3 LB'ers on the field much at all. You've got Gay and Hitchens in there this season.

If there's someone you could take to replace HItchens I guess go for it, but that seems a bit redundant.

And if either one of those guys is hurt? The cubbard is BARE.

RunKC 04-30-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15653145)
JOK would theoretically play the Sorenson role, which would make sense.

But if we're talking about an off ball LB'er? Nah, I'd look for one of those later.

I don’t think the ND kid is gonna be there for us. Good news is that Jabril Cox is a very similar type of player with really good athleticism and coverage.

He could cover TE’s for us

staylor26 04-30-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15653149)
He's light. He plays well against the run as a penetrator but when an OL gets their hands on him, he's often done. He doesn't have the bend or push to actually set the edge and win matchups.

I'm just not as high on him as others are I guess. I see him more as a 3-4 OLB.

Absolutely disagree. He doesn’t get pushed around in the running game. He’s not Dee Ford. He can play 4-3 DE too.

O.city 04-30-2021 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 15653147)
Because as it stands right now Ben ****ing Neiman is set to see significant playing time.

And we'll see how valuable you think that position is when you're cursing his name every Sunday.

And where they allocated a pick to that position has nothing to do with anything.

Hey, we'll have two 2nd round LB's. Cool.

The one they drafted last year hasn't even played much yet.

They rarely play with 3 on the field. So it woudl be more of a depth pick at this point.

But whatever. I'm cool with whoever.

htismaqe 04-30-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653143)
Yeah there’s a handful of LB’s and DE’s. The value of today is at corner and OL though.

I feel really good about a receiving weapon falling to us though. Tremble, Freiermuth, Brown or Marshall. I think one of them makes it to our range

Yep, I really think we're looking at a CB and IOL with these 2 picks.

O.city 04-30-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 15653151)
And if either one of those guys is hurt? The cubbard is BARE.

What if Kelce gets hurt? What if one of the CB's goes down? What if Mathieu gets hurt?

KChiefs1 04-30-2021 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 15653098)
Today is the day OL depth really comes into focus. Lot of these guys are gonna be flying off the board in the early and mid rd 2.

Great news for us

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I absolutely love what&#39;s left on the OL for Rounds 2-3 tomorrow. The top players left on my OL board with a day 2 or better grade: <a href="https://t.co/jFa5WHW1sK">pic.twitter.com/jFa5WHW1sK</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Thorn (@BrandonThornNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/BrandonThornNFL/status/1387985259153788929?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

If they went Meinerz I wouldn't complain eventhough there are bigger needs.

ToxSocks 04-30-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 15653141)
Our O line depth is actually pretty solid as in. Allegretti, Wylie, LDT, Remmers. And Schwartz could come back. Honestly I don’t see us taking an OL.

Agreed. I don't think we need IOL depth. The line, all of a sudden, has plenty of depth.

I mention Walker Little, but if they draft him there's a log jam on the OL. It's still be awesome, but i bet it would also mean they're dumping LDT.


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