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Wallcrawler 03-11-2020 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14835970)
There's more than Alex; as I wrote above it was one example.

As for your highlighted sentence, tell that to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. When things got tough, they both had the mindset of "keep firing, just keep firing," did they not?

You don't win it all by being safe. You win it all by taking chances. Which was exactly my biggest problem with Alex; he didn't take enough shots when the game was on the line. You want to win big, you have to take big risks. Every uber successful person knows that.


Im sorry, but are you comparing an organization ignoring their history of being burned and just throwing big contracts out and hoping it doesnt blow up in their face to Andy Reid telling the best ****ing qb on the planet its okay to keep throwing?

Again, the level of fail here is staggering.

One is a coin flip. Its either gonna work, or it isnt.

Putting the football in Patrick Mahomes hands and removing his leash is hardly gambling bro. Thats the ****ing safe play.

Oh Andy Reid, that gambler! Putting the ball in Mahomes hands with the biggest game on the line! What coach has the guts to do that?!!

Buckweath 03-11-2020 09:32 PM

I want to resign Jones but would give him 19M per season. Maybe just maybe 20M.

No to anything more than that. And yes to a trade if he plays hardball.

We should have learned our lesson with Berry and Houston. There is no point to handing out those massive deals and end up having to throw away those players because their play unsurprisingly take a dip.

Give Jones a reasonable deal and at least you can somewhat manage if his play falls off a bit which is very possible.

Wallcrawler 03-12-2020 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 14829265)
Now someone smarter than me correct me please, but has there ever been a better pass rusher at that position than those 2?

John Randle, and the dude was only 6'1 245lbs. Guy was a ****ing beast. 137.5 sacks playing DT. 9 of 14 seasons double digit sack totals, half sack away from being 10 out of 14. Trash talk second to none. Eyeblack second to none.

Circa '99-'00 Warren Sapp was pretty God damn terrifying also.


Im sure there are others, but Randle and Sapp immediately come to mind when you talk qb killing DTs.

Tribal Warfare 03-12-2020 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 14836771)
John Randle, and the dude was only 6'1 245lbs. Guy was a ****ing beast. 137.5 sacks playing DT. 9 of 14 seasons double digit sack totals, half sack away from being 10 out of 14. Trash talk second to none. Eyeblack second to none.

Circa '99-'00 Warren Sapp was pretty God damn terrifying also.


Im sure there are others, but Randle and Sapp immediately come to mind when you talk qb killing DTs.

Reggie White played and rotated to RDE ,DT, and LDE positions on the line for the Packers when he was called upon to do so

Red Dawg 03-12-2020 05:27 AM

Give it up. No chance he will play here unless he signs the tag. Even if he does probably traded. We need more picks with only 5.

dlphg9 03-12-2020 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14836815)
Give it up. No chance he will play here unless he signs the tag. Even if he does probably traded. We need more picks with only 5.

Are you going to add anything of substance or are you just going to keep repeating the same thing over and over.

TEX 03-12-2020 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg (Post 14836815)
Give it up. No chance he will play here unless he signs the tag. Even if he does probably traded. We need more picks with only 5.

Really? How so?

InChiefsHeaven 03-12-2020 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by e3263518 (Post 14829795)
So calling another forum member in a completely unprovoked manner "a stupid mother****er" and "kill yourself" is cool? Some of you here sure do have some strange logic. There was nothing cool or funny about what he wrote. And he doesn't have testicles big enough to say shit like that to me in person because he would not like the outcome.

Awww, who's a cute little noob? You are! Yes you are...:D

dlphg9 03-12-2020 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 14837092)
Really? How so?

He's been posting almost that same exact thing all over this thread. Multiple times a day.

Wallcrawler 03-12-2020 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by e3263518 (Post 14829795)
So calling another forum member in a completely unprovoked manner "a stupid mother****er" and "kill yourself" is cool? Some of you here sure do have some strange logic. There was nothing cool or funny about what he wrote. And he doesn't have testicles big enough to say shit like that to me in person because he would not like the outcome.

Ah. This one has yet to partake of the delicious antifreeze while perishing atop the burning AIDS tree before being pulled down with nuthooks.

Letter and lot of numbers guy, this will end badly for you.

saphojunkie 03-12-2020 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14835970)
There's more than Alex; as I wrote above it was one example.

As for your highlighted sentence, tell that to Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. When things got tough, they both had the mindset of "keep firing, just keep firing," did they not?

You don't win it all by being safe. You win it all by taking chances. Which was exactly my biggest problem with Alex; he didn't take enough shots when the game was on the line. You want to win big, you have to take big risks. Every uber successful person knows that.

No.

You take calculated risks. But no one on here wants to do... you know... the calculating.

Megatron96 03-12-2020 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 14837602)
No.

You take calculated risks. But no one on here wants to do... you know... the calculating.

“Big,” “calculated,” we’re arguing semantics at this point. The point is that you have to roll the dice sometimes.

staylor26 03-12-2020 01:29 PM

Funny how everybody talks about Houston and Berry, but what about guys like Clark and Mathieu? Yea they weren’t Chiefs before, but they’re still guys you gave a 2nd contract to. There’s no difference.

dlphg9 03-12-2020 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 14837647)
“Big,” “calculated,” we’re arguing semantics at this point. The point is that you have to roll the dice sometimes.

Yes you do have to roll the dice and to decrease the chances of a bad contract you have to calculate the risks. You do that by taking these factors into account;

Age - is the player at the end of his prime?

Chris Jones is just now getting into his prime. This was the first year where he looked like an absolute stud and took games over. He's just gonna get better and you don't just get rid of that type of game changing ability

Injury history - Football is extremely physical and most players get hurt and miss games, but has the player missed multiple games every season and constantly has nagging injuries that keep him at less than 100% when he actually does play?

This was the first year CJ has had injury problems. He has been very healthy his whole career and isnt constantly on the injury report.

Loves the game - Does the player love to play football or is he just looking for his big pay day?

Chris Jones is very vocal about his love of the game and is constantly trying to get better.

Does the player want to be here? Does he love the city, fans, and most importantly loves his teammates?

This is another thing that Jones has been very vocal about. He loves everything about Kansas City and the Chiefs.

So if someonw wants to spew off about calculating the risk and how Chris Jones is a risky signing Id love to see their reasons why. This whole Berry and Houston got hurt bullshit isnt a reason. Give me a legit reason that signing him long term would br bad. Give me some of the negatives when calculating the risk. The money isnt a reason either because you can keep his cap bit low until the cap is crazy high.

dlphg9 03-12-2020 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14837662)
Funny how everybody talks about Houston and Berry, but what about guys like Clark and Mathieu? Yea they weren’t Chiefs before, but they’re still guys you gave a 2nd contract to. There’s no difference.

People will say Clark and Mathiue can still get hurt. That douche bag wallcrawler was one of those idiots.


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