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DaneMcCloud 10-26-2012 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9052222)
Rivera got the Caroline job via Peter principle and I'm not sure Cowher is married to anything but winning.

That would be a coaching staff and core that I'd be ****ing thrilled with. Very excited.

Well, the other thing you have to keep in mind is this: Who are Cowher's coaching buddies and where are they in the league right now?

Gailey and Whisenhunt are head coaches. Arians is an acting head coach and will probably end up as a head coach somewhere in 2013. LeBeau isn't leaving Pittsburgh and Dom Capers isn't leaving Green Bay.

Cowher may find that putting together a fresh coaching staff would be a bigger challenge than coming back to the game itself.

HoneyBadger 10-26-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9052251)
That's cool, I just have a different outlook.

My biggest fear with Cowher is the QB position. He felt he could win with stiffs like O'Donnell, Graham, Tomczak, Stewart and Maddox and he recently said on CBS that he'd back Cassel.

That's not a guy that I want coaching a football team in 2013, especially when coupled with his 7+ year sabbatical from coaching.

I'd rather see Arians or Chip Kelly or Jay Gruden before Cowher. At this point in time, Ray Horton and Gus Bradley deserve interviews as well.

I usually hate what you have to say, but have to agree with you this time.

DaneMcCloud 10-26-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HoneyBadger (Post 9052275)
I usually hate what you have to say, but have to agree with you this time.

Well, I'm honored.

Halfcan 10-26-2012 04:37 PM

Really people are STILL talking about Cowher-LOL

put down the pipe he will Never be our coach-period.

Romeo wil be here next year-so we might as well get used to it.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-26-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 9052383)
Really people are STILL talking about Cowher-LOL

put down the pipe he will Never be our coach-period.

Romeo wil be here next year-so we might as well get used to it.

I can get used to hating on this franchise. I've become quite adept at it.

R8RFAN 10-26-2012 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9052391)
I can get used to hating on this franchise. I've become quite adept at it.

You need to GTFO and find a new team

BossChief 10-26-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9052251)
That's cool, I just have a different outlook.

My biggest fear with Cowher is the QB position. He felt he could win with stiffs like O'Donnell, Graham, Tomczak, Stewart and Maddox and he recently said on CBS that he'd back Cassel.

That's not a guy that I want coaching a football team in 2013, especially when coupled with his 7+ year sabbatical from coaching.

I'd rather see Arians or Chip Kelly or Jay Gruden before Cowher. At this point in time, Ray Horton and Gus Bradley deserve interviews as well.

That's the thing that makes me think Cowher would be good. He DID win with some crappy qbs and once he got a good one, he won championships right away.

All he said about Cassel was that he wouldn't bench him (when asked before the 4th game) and that could just mean he didnt like the alternatives.

It's not like the guy would tell a GM to pass on Wilson, Smith or another franchise qb option in the draft...part of his job would be developing the kid we draft.

That said, I'm open to 5 or 6 other choices, too.

Shannahan jr
Gruden
Arians
Scottenheimer
And a couple others that slip my mind.

Easy 6 10-26-2012 04:42 PM

Norv wouldnt mesh philosophically with the current regime, but if he did i'd be fine with him at OC, he knows how to use talented backs and isnt shy about chucking it.

Lots of very talented OC's cant hack it at HC.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2012 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9052396)
That's the thing that makes me think Cowher would be good. He DID win with some crappy qbs and once he got a good one, he won championships right away.

All he said about Cassel was that he wouldn't bench him (when asked before the 4th game) and that could just mean he didnt like the alternatives.

It's not like the guy would tell a GM to pass on Wilson, Smith or another franchise qb option in the draft...part of his job would be developing the kid we draft.

That said, I'm open to 5 or 6 other choices, too.

Shannahan jr
Gruden
Arians
Scottenheimer
And a couple others that slip my mind.

Think shanahan is too young. Arians strikes me as a pure offensive guru, not a head coach... And I think he's a smidge overrated. Schottenheimer... No.

I still think you are really overplaying the importance of hiring an offensive guru. To me, the only short list is gruden, Bradley, and Horton. Cowher maybe, but I don't care for him as much as I do those other guys.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-26-2012 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9052498)
Think shanahan is too young. Arians strikes me as a pure offensive guru, not a head coach... And I think he's a smidge overrated. Schottenheimer... No.

I still think you are really overplaying the importance of hiring an offensive guru. To me, the only short list is gruden, Bradley, and Horton. Cowher maybe, but I don't care for him as much as I do those other guys.

I think Gruden secretly loves KC. That's just the vibe I get from him.

I am highly intrigued with this Gus fellow though...

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2012 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9052397)
Norv wouldnt mesh philosophically with the current regime, but if he did i'd be fine with him at OC, he knows how to use talented backs and isnt shy about chucking it.

Lots of very talented OC's cant hack it at HC.

You hire Bradley, and stick norv at offensive coordinator. And holy shit, this is one hell of a football team. The other oc that intrigues me is John Morton in San Fran. Comes from several great trees and has been a passing coordinator, so you know he's a guy that will want to air it out.

Here's another underrated oc option. Pat shurmur. He may be fired in Cleveland. This guy knows qbs and he's worked with lots of young qbs.

Sweet Daddy Hate 10-26-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9052511)
You hire Bradley, and stick norv at offensive coordinator. And holy shit, this is one hell of a football team. The other oc that intrigues me is John Morton in San Fran. Comes from several great trees and has been a passing coordinator, so you know he's a guy that will want to air it out.

Here's another underrated oc option. Pat shurmur. He may be fired in Cleveland. This guy knows qbs and he's worked with lots of young qbs.

Why are some people loving on Norval? No thanks.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2012 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9052525)
Why are some people loving on Norval? No thanks.

As an oc. One thing he does know is qbs.

Thing about having a defensive head coach is I think there is much more comfort in handing the keys of an offense to an oc who can run his own show. Norv can do that. But there are plenty of other oc's we can look into.

chiefzilla1501 10-26-2012 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DarthPioliSatan (Post 9052504)
I think Gruden secretly loves KC. That's just the vibe I get from him.

I am highly intrigued with this Gus fellow though...

Actually... Talking about jay gruden. I don't see how jon gruden comes back given his cooshy deal right now.

RunKC 10-26-2012 05:25 PM

Mike McCoy. He's a guy this team will play hard for AND respect. He'll have them working, plus it would be ****ing awesome to steal him from Donkeyland and have success.

I think we should have an offensive coach because offense is taking over, and more importantly, we need an offensive coach to help our 1st round QB.


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