Palmer, before his injuries, was a top 3 QB in the NFL easily.

1380-2165 63.7 15360 yards 107td-67 int, and has also had a history of injuries. if you average it out that s almost identical to cassel's last year

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2006-07 Cincinnati 16 93.9 324 520 62.3 4035 252.2 7.8 28 13

2007-08 Cincinnati 16 86.7 373 575 64.9 4131 258.2 7.2 26 20

Yea I don't think Cassel is averaging those numbers...

We can all have our views although I think Palmer will be back in a big way this year.

for his CAREER he has averaged about the same as cassel. thats what was said. YOU seem to use career accomplishments as the basis for top 10 right? and those were for 06 and 07, you seem to try and show like that happened in 08. 08 he was hurt

Look now is the time for people to get excited about the team. no one wants to hear a lot of negative bullshit. lets get behind these guys and try to at least enjoy the ride we are getting ready to go on, for better or worse

Uh no, saying a guy has to do it more than once and saying career are not the same thing.

Did I list him in the top 10 no I did not. I fully suspect he'll be back there after the year though.

Carson Palmer has played at a higher level for a longer period of consistently than Cassel he is coming off an injury so I list him at 10-15, I have Cassel in that range for only being a 1 year starter.

Being realistic is not being negative, no one should build their hopes to stupid levels so they can be all pissed off when it doesn't happen.

who gets pissed? not me. i just want to actually enjoy the season. good or bad i still enjoy watching the team that i love. i may not realize it that day or the next but i always do within a couple of days

and mecca you are negative about almost everything the team does.

There are going to be people that think the Chiefs are going to win 8-10 games that lose their ****ing minds on here and want Tyler Thigpen to play.

I don't expect Cassel to put up a great year which has a lot to do with the lack of talent the Chiefs have. But some people won't be forgiving the first year Trent Green was here people hated him.

Honest opinion and being negative are not the same, just because I don't flip my opinion on players because they end up on the Chiefs doesn't make me negative.

And anyway the entire time you've posted here the Chiefs have been an awful team what do you want, me to say all the scrubs are good?

I had no idea that Jason watched all of the Patriot games...that's impressive to me. I'm sure other guys did the same. I don't have that much exposure to Cassel. I agree with him in being positive, totally. I do hope that fans will give him at least a give him a while (like a few seasons) to work in the kinks out before calling for Thigpen. The same goes for Haley and Pioli. This is a total revamping. We gotta give space for them to built continuity.

LOL, I give it a couple of games since talk radio is all about calling the Chiefs a contender and saying 8 wins or they'll be disappointed.

He is 27 years old so he needs to develop a hell of a lot faster than a draft pick though.

Neither should they place their expectations unreasonably low so as to never be excited about potential.

I haven't exactly agreed with much Mecca has said. But one area we do agree on.

At 2-14 the Chiefs sucked. And with their talent level and schedule 5-11 would be a great season. Give it time people. If you are expecting 8-8 this year or better you are setting yourselves up.
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i for one have never put any expected win total out there for this season, not seriously at least