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EyePod 01-15-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus (Post 5391092)
I'm worried about how few games Sanchez has started.

I agree. There was an article somewhere about how you need a QB to come out of college who has at least 3 years experience and has shown improvement over those years in most categories. Otherwise, he needs to have a few years under a solid veteran QB (which we don't have) before he becomes any better.

ct 01-15-2009 08:45 AM

Sorry haven't read thru the whole thread. I voted DE (kinda moot since Bradford returning to OU, but anyway...). EDIT: DOH! Should really read more carefully there... I still vote DE for #3 over a QB, but honestly, I'd be cool with LT, moving Albert to G or RT.

I have less and less time for draft research, not up to speed at all. What's the sentiment, is Sanchez worth an early 2nd? 3rd? Where should he slot on the board?

el borracho 01-15-2009 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by unothadeal (Post 5391276)
Do we really need to worry about this anymore? I have 100% trust in Scott Pioli making the right selection.

I really doubt that Pioli has his choice of the top two QBs- Detroit will almost certainly take one... or did you mean you trust Pioli to take the right player, even if it isn't a QB?

Frosty 01-15-2009 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5392610)
Umm, the video above shows Sanchez, with no one in his face, throw a pick into coverage on the opponents 15 yrd line, with about 20 sec to play. down by a touch.

Don't think so. The pick came with 2:40 left. Sanchez has a guy hitting him in the knees as he tries to step into the throw and the ball sails slightly. Layborn, the safety, is behind the receiver and picks it and returns it to the 1 yard line. The Beavs score on the first play and miss the EP. Score is 27-14 with about 2 minutes left.

USC gets the ball and drives down and scores a TD with about 40 seconds left. Beaver fans nearly have a heart attack but relax when the Beavs get the ball on the onside kick try. The Beavs kneel out the clock and pandemonium ensues. :D

beach tribe 01-15-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by arc (Post 5392750)
Don't think so. The pick came with 2:40 left. Sanchez has a guy hitting him in the knees as he tries to step into the throw and the ball sails slightly. Layborn, the safety, is behind the receiver and picks it and returns it to the 1 yard line. The Beavs score on the first play and miss the EP. Score is 27-14 with about 2 minutes left.

USC gets the ball and drives down and scores a TD with about 40 seconds left. Beaver fans nearly have a heart attack but relax when the Beavs get the ball on the onside kick try. The Beavs kneel out the clock and pandemonium ensues. :D

Dude. Check out the vid at the bottom of post #203.

Oregon vs.USC. Sanchez is driving for the tying score with under a min to play, and ends up throwing a pick. He is not pressured, and he threw right into coverage.

EyePod 01-15-2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5392610)
Umm, the video above shows Sanchez, with no one in his face, throw a pick into coverage on the opponents 15 yrd line, with about 20 sec to play. down by a touch.

It also shows him throwing really ****ing well for most other plays. Way to only look at the one negative. I know it was crunch time and everything, but that one TD pass was ****ing awesome. I dunno, I know the pick sucked and everything, but a lot of the other shit looked awesome. And I don't even want us to take Sanchez!

El Jefe 01-15-2009 09:58 AM

I hate USC, but at this moment I would take Sanchez.

Coogs 01-15-2009 09:58 AM

I don't know which one is the best. But if there is a clear advantage to having one over the other, then I would consider trading up to #1 with Detroit make sure we get the correct one. Our #3 and our #34 pick would come close to the points value. Not exactly, but close. That would give Detroit #3, #20, #33, and #34.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-15-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5392794)
Dude. Check out the vid at the bottom of post #203.

Oregon vs.USC. Sanchez is driving for the tying score with under a min to play, and ends up throwing a pick. He is not pressured, and he threw right into coverage.

Okay, I've looked at this a few times before I originally posted it on a different thread.

If you slow it down, you'll see that the pass was money and the receiver has his hands on the ball. The defender just happened to get a fraction of a second jump on the ball and had enough paw/momentum to yank it out of the receivers hand.
The two things that impresses me about that reel are the beautiful over the shoulder pass to the receiver trucking his way to the northwest pylon and not even looking back, and the urgency/timing Mark displays moving the drive down field.

Frankie 01-15-2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsfanGoLJ (Post 5392823)
I hate USC, but at this moment I would take Sanchez.

USC = University of Second Choice

Most everybody I know, including myself, have their own #1 college team with USC being their #2.

Frosty 01-15-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5392794)
Dude. Check out the vid at the bottom of post #203.

Oregon vs.USC. Sanchez is driving for the tying score with under a min to play, and ends up throwing a pick. He is not pressured, and he threw right into coverage.

I see what the problem is. You are talking about the 2007 Oregon game that was one of the games where Sanchez was filling in for an injured Booty. I was talking about the Oregon State game that happened this season.

beach tribe 01-15-2009 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod (Post 5392815)
It also shows him throwing really ****ing well for most other plays. Way to only look at the one negative. I know it was crunch time and everything, but that one TD pass was ****ing awesome. I dunno, I know the pick sucked and everything, but a lot of the other shit looked awesome. And I don't even want us to take Sanchez!

Oh, I agree, he looks real good, and I won't be pissed if we get him.

BUT that does not take away the fact that he's trying to come from behind, against an inferior team, that he should not have been trailing in the first place, and blows it by throwing into tight coverage, when he could have easily slid in the pocket, and found the open man.

beach tribe 01-15-2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5392842)
Okay, I've looked at this a few times before I originally posted it on a different thread.

If you slow it down, you'll see that the pass was money and the receiver has his hands on the ball. The defender just happened to get a fraction of a second jump on the ball and had enough paw/momentum to yank it out of the receivers hand.
The two things that impresses me about that reel are the beautiful over the shoulder pass to the receiver trucking his way to the northwest pylon and not even looking back, and the urgency/timing Mark displays moving the drive down field.

I respect you're opinion, but you are biased on this subject.

Tribal Warfare 01-15-2009 10:15 AM

I also think the dark horse candidate for QB is Nate Davis, the kid fits what Pioli is looking for.

Frosty 01-15-2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 5392857)
Oh, I agree, he looks real good, and I won't be pissed if we get him.

BUT that does not take away the fact that he's trying to come from behind, against an inferior team, that he should not have been trailing in the first place, and blows it by throwing into tight coverage, when he could have easily slid in the pocket, and found the open man.

Oregon was ranked higher than USC last year until Dixon got hurt. They were a very good team, especially at home. They weren't an inferior team and it was a pretty tall order to expect Sanchez to be flawless in one of his first starts, on the road, against a very good team.


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