Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17069182)

The hard thing to see is what Jones thinks he's doing on his end.

KC won't go to the dollar amount he wants? OK. Your options are:

1) Go kick ass while clearing $20M in cash in a contract year (with a better supporting cast around you) and then cash in next season with a team that WILL give you what you want (either on a tag and trade or a straight FA walk, because the team can't REALLY afford to keep you on the tag).
2) Hold out of preseason, costing yourself about $2M, then go kick ass in a contract year after getting into shape. Probably costs you a little bit in what you get if your numbers are down, but not a LOT.
3) HAve a significant, protracted holdout. Come into the season mid-year, have to play your way into shape, and believe that you can make enough happen in the postseason to get the big deal you're seeking.
4) Sit out the whole year and not have your year of service time recognized. Get traded next year and hope some team is willing to give you the deal you want when you'll have 18 months between games.

How he is trending towards (3) is wild to me.

Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 17069155)

Ehh. He’d quite easily get top 15 pick in the draft value.

Which is roughly what Tyreek fetched. At roughly the same age, and at a better aging position

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 17069008)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per PFR, Of the Chiefs&#39; 185 &quot;pressures&quot; in 2022 (combines hurries/knockdowns/sacks)...<br><br>46 were Chris Jones. That&#39;s 24.9%. A quarter of their pressures. One dude.<br><br>44 more (23.8%) came from Clark/Dunlap, who are no longer in KC.<br><br>That&#39;s... a lot. A lot a lot a lot.</p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1694371835553669271?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 17069200)

If the Chiefs feel it’s something like Creed and Humphrey or Jones, I’m taking the OL.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17069192)

The only way 3 remotely makes sense is if he thinks he can't replicate last season...has some type of body issue that he knows means his career is close to over, or legit cares about nothing but the money at this point and thinks his best days are behind him so playing could lower his value.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17069192)

The only way 3 remotely makes sense is if he thinks he can't replicate last season...has some type of body issue that he knows means his career is close to over, or legit cares about nothing but the money at this point and thinks his best days are behind him so playing could lower his value.

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17069217)

I think 3 makes since if you really want to make sure your off the team in 2024. You get your service time and sends a clear message to the team your done. Also lessons chance of injury by 50%. There is no way the team does not get him out of town in 2024.

Otherwise he may find himself back being tagged. The team will be under the same impression he will hold out of training camp but eventually report.

But yes he knows he has 1 contract left for 3-4 year deal in him if he does not get hurt. Also probably clear by now the Chiefs probably will not be paying his amount.

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17069222)

But if he believed any of those things, he would have signed the Chiefs' offer.

The only explanation is neither Chris Jones nor his agent know what the hell they are doing and had no backup plan in the event the Chiefs didn't give-in to his contract demands.

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17069223)

You risk no one paying you if you sit real games to be honest...I get the playing hardball to not get tagged but I don't think the Chiefs can realistically pay his tag number which is like 33 million dollars.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17069062)

That's the part that might just irritate me the most of all.

Don't you think there's a decent chance that Jones is using Omenihu's suspension as a pressure point?

"Hey, the team might be in a bind here. I could A) Step up and help us through it or B) Use it to add a few more bucks to my deal and potentially mess up a season where I'm being paid $20 million.

B sounds aces to me!"

Originally Posted by kcgreene (Post 17069240)

His PYS will drop roughly 1.1M for each game he misses (got further clarification after looking last night). If he does sit till week 8, His PYS for the tag next year will be in the ballpark of 20.6M, so his tag will be MUCH more affordable. Probably the average of the Top 5 guys, so 24.5 to 25.5M, somewhere in there.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17069182)

The hard thing to see is what Jones thinks he's doing on his end.

KC won't go to the dollar amount he wants? OK. Your options are:

1) Go kick ass while clearing $20M in cash in a contract year (with a better supporting cast around you) and then cash in next season with a team that WILL give you what you want (either on a tag and trade or a straight FA walk, because the team can't REALLY afford to keep you on the tag).
2) Hold out of preseason, costing yourself about $2M, then go kick ass in a contract year after getting into shape. Probably costs you a little bit in what you get if your numbers are down, but not a LOT.
3) HAve a significant, protracted holdout. Come into the season mid-year, have to play your way into shape, and believe that you can make enough happen in the postseason to get the big deal you're seeking.
4) Sit out the whole year and not have your year of service time recognized. Get traded next year and hope some team is willing to give you the deal you want when you'll have 18 months between games.

How he is trending towards (3) is wild to me.