ChiefsPlanet - Chiefs The fate of Chris Jones 2023 edition

My point is we can’t replace him while he is holding out. We get 1.1 million per game but can’t use it to bring in a free agent while he is sitting out. He’s screwing us and sitting on his ass laughing his head off.

Beach better trade his ass or restructure somebody’s contract to free up some cap space so he can bring Carlos and another FA or we are good and proper ****ed. :mad:

-King-

08-23-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17069072)

No, I know his age….I was talking about in the future, JFC….

Maybe he’s still elite by the end of this year but I know what the past says and it says that DTs start to trend down pretty significantly in the NFL after age 30…

Sorry I don’t want an albatross of a contract for maybe 1, 2 years of elite play if we’re lucky…

Then we should have traded him in the off-season regardless of his demands? Even if he was asking for 20mil, if DTs fall off after 30, why is this even a conversation?

Jerm	08-23-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17069062)

That's the part that might just irritate me the most of all.

Don't you think there's a decent chance that Jones is using Omenihu's suspension as a pressure point?

"Hey, the team might be in a bind here. I could A) Step up and help us through it or B) Use it to add a few more bucks to my deal and potentially mess up a season where I'm being paid $20 million.

B sounds aces to me!"

The thing that irritates me the most and grows by the day is the fact we traded an elite offensive weapon last year to basically facilitate this deal and now we may not be with either for much longer…

Sassy Squatch

08-23-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17069069)

That’s what’s gotten me to the point of being over him and his contract demands. I was all for paying him to be the second highest paid DT in the league. But now you’re not going to show up for 8 games even though you’re under contract and being paid pretty damn well? **** off, Chris.

Yeah, it's a really bizarre move. You're making it quite a bit easier for the team to justify going nuclear if it comes down to it, and those options won't be fun for old CJ.

ptlyon

08-23-2023 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17069069)

This is why you picked the correct moniker

-King-

08-23-2023 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 17069068)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid gives an update on the status of Chris Jones 😳<br><br>(via <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByNateTaylor</a>) <a href="https://t.co/6gwqchxw8I">pic.twitter.com/6gwqchxw8I</a></p>— KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1694376032986345828?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

How did we get to this point LMAO

Marcellus

08-23-2023 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17069039)

I’m going with B/ because I think each year you have Mahomes and an aging Kelce playing at this level you err on that side of things.

I don’t think we’re winning a Super Bowl without Chris Jones on the team this season. In the future? Certainly possible Because Mahomes. But it would be a huge gap to fill this year and we don’t have the wide margin of error many here seem to feel we do.

Jones not being on the roster makes it tougher for certain and I WANT him back at a reasonable cost, but let me ask you this.

Who are the top 5 defenses in football and how many have a truly top 5 interior defensive lineman? The answer is one of them.

SF
Dallas
Philly
Jets - *Quinton Williams
Broncos/Buffalo ?

The arguably worst defense in the NFL heading into this season, the Rams have Aaron Donald and well not much else.

I think our defense is better than advertised even without Jones as long as they stay healthy. I just think we have to figure out a way to get some good pass rush with our DE's which I believe is why we drafted DE the last 2 years.

ChiTown

08-23-2023 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17069056)

Obviously not. But that's what it's looking like.

That's called, "we better be putting up 30+ points per game"

The Franchise

08-23-2023 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17069077)

Yeah, it's a really bizarre move. You're making it quite a bit easier for the team to justify going nuclear if it comes down to it, and those options won't be fun for old CJ.

He could have made everyone switch to his side if he just skipped training camp, played out the year and then did this holdout shit next year if they put the tag on him. He’s going the Bell route after saying he won’t play for another team. Just makes him look like an asshole.

Jerm	08-23-2023 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17069075)

Then we should have traded him in the off-season regardless of his demands? Even if he was asking for 20mil, if DTs fall off after 30, why is this even a conversation?

I was all for trading him after the season…once you’ve done it with Hill and show the propensity to trade a guy like that, anyone not named Mahomes could go.

Veach mishandled it IMO and then Jones and his agents completely changed their tune…

DJ's left nut

08-23-2023 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 17069076)

The thing that irritates me the most and grows by the day is the fact we traded an elite offensive weapon last year to basically facilitate this deal and now we may not be with either for much longer…

Nah, i don't think so.

The Jones analysis is independent of the Hill analysis. Fans lumped them together but I think it's clear the organization never has.

They moved Hill because he wanted more than they wanted to pay because they felt they could build a dynamic offense without him. They were proven correct. They didn't move Hill because they wanted to save that money to sign Jones.

They moved Hill because they didn't think he was necessary and the ROI wasn't there.

ToxSocks

08-23-2023 10:06 AM

So Jones must be asking for something north of 30M.

Welp, gonna have to score a lot of points this season.

Sassy Squatch

08-23-2023 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17069075)

Then we should have traded him in the off-season regardless of his demands? Even if he was asking for 20mil, if DTs fall off after 30, why is this even a conversation?

It's not like they drop off a cliff. Letting Jones play out the final year of his deal while he's still capable of relatively elite play and recouping some draft assets afterwards sounds better to me than resetting the market for 3 or 4 years and having to pay it well into his 30s when the decline is starting to get more noticeable.

tredadda

08-23-2023 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Ten Beers (Post 17068992)

Leave a team, a legacy like this for an extra couple million?

Thats some extremely shortsighted idiocy, if he were to retire with the Chiefs he'd have the keys to the city for life, he could basically write his own ticket and recoup way more than a couple million... business ventures, speaking gigs etc

What legacy though? He's still about 30ish sacks from making the HOF. He has two rings already. He should seek the max he can on his potentially final big contract.

KCrockaholic

08-23-2023 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Snatch (Post 17069089)

This is the way. Been saying this the last few weeks to people. It becomes a win-win for the team to do it this way.

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