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Hammock Parties 12-17-2017 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13293161)
Leia used some unknown never before seen power at a very old age with assumingly no training what so ever.

it's a bit different don't you think ?
That wasn't an unknown power.

It was force pull.

You also "assume" she had no training. It's a bit foolish to assume that she had zero training in the 30 years since ROTJ.

manchambo 12-17-2017 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13293161)
Leia used some unknown never before seen power at a very old age with assumingly no training what so ever.

it's a bit different don't you think ?
Not a physics aficionado, eh?

oaklandhater 12-17-2017 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13293175)
That wasn't an unknown power.

It was force pull.

You also "assume" she had no training. It's a bit foolish to assume that she had zero training in the 30 years since ROTJ.
We can only assume since Rian gave us no back story what so ever.

and even if she did use force pull or whatever where did she learn to use some ****ing bubble/shield technique ?

Hammock Parties 12-17-2017 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13293237)
We can only assume since Rian gave us no back story what so ever.

and even if she did use force pull or whatever where did she learn to use some ****ing bubble/shield technique ?
At no point did she need to use a bubble or a shield.

As has been stated...humans can survive in space for a short amount of time.

You trying way too hard to explain the minutiae of a Star Wars scene.

It's space fantasy. Not hard sci-fi.

Please chill and enjoy the fantastical nature of the universe.

temper11 12-17-2017 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13293044)
Skywalkers being naturally talented in the force.

See Luke and Anakin.
But if you can accept anakin, with no prior lineage, why not rey?

And if you believe this, then why have problems with leia using the force to save herself?

temper11 12-17-2017 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 13293085)
You keep trying to dodge the point, but to remind you, your complaint was that Leia used the force to return to the ship, you claimed without any training.

Your rejoinder to the fact that Luke did something similar without training? Bloodline--brilliant considering that they're twins.

And now, after it's pointed out that two of the most powerful jedis didn't share that bloodline, you go back to training. Though, of course, I never saw a training montage for Yoda or Windu.
Mic drop

FlintHillsChiefs 12-17-2017 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 13293185)
Not a physics aficionado, eh?
Eh, what? I'm loathe to defend Claynus here.

Physics-wise, there was nothing wrong with the Leia scene. Additionally, there was nothing wrong within the force mythology with what Leia did. Fact - you CAN survive in a vacuum for up for 2 or 3 minutes as long as you expel air from your lungs. Getting blasted by a cannon is going to naturally do that.

However, I do agree that they the way they visualized it could have been much better. It looked very Mary Poppin-ish or Superman-ish.

Now if you want to talk a scene that will make a physicist go "Wut", lets talk about the ships tumbling end-over-end after running out of fuel. That was really bad.

temper11 12-17-2017 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13293161)
Leia used some unknown never before seen power at a very old age with assumingly no training what so ever.

it's a bit different don't you think ?
Force push is never before used power? Wut?

manchambo 12-17-2017 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FlintHillsChiefs (Post 13293248)
Eh, what? I'm loathe to defend Claynus here.

Physics-wise, there was nothing wrong with the Leia scene. Additionally, there was nothing wrong within the force mythology with what Leia did. Fact - you CAN survive in a vacuum for up for 2 or 3 minutes as long as you expel air from your lungs. Getting blasted by a cannon is going to naturally do that.

However, I do agree that they the way they visualized it could have been much better. It looked very Mary Poppin-ish or Superman-ish.

Now if you want to talk a scene that will make a physicist go "Wut", lets talk about the ships tumbling end-over-end after running out of fuel. That was really bad.
Uh, I think you need to re read what you're responding to.

temper11 12-17-2017 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FlintHillsChiefs (Post 13293248)
Eh, what? I'm loathe to defend Claynus here.

Physics-wise, there was nothing wrong with the Leia scene. Additionally, there was nothing wrong within the force mythology with what Leia did. Fact - you CAN survive in a vacuum for up for 2 or 3 minutes as long as you expel air from your lungs. Getting blasted by a cannon is going to naturally do that.

However, I do agree that they the way they visualized it could have been much better. It looked very Mary Poppin-ish or Superman-ish.

Now if you want to talk a scene that will make a physicist go "Wut", lets talk about the ships tumbling end-over-end after running out of fuel. That was really bad.
Or bombs dropping from a bomber in a zero gravity environment. I am allowing myself to believe the rebels were creative with magnets to get away with that one.

FlintHillsChiefs 12-17-2017 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by manchambo (Post 13293256)
Uh, I think you need to re read what you're responding to.
sorry if I misunderstood your sarcasm. My bad.

FlintHillsChiefs 12-17-2017 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13293267)
Or bombs dropping from a bomber in a zero gravity environment. I am allowing myself to believe the rebels were creative with magnets to get away with that one.
I didn't even think about that. Lets not get into the fact that a object with mass going as fast as light would probably destroy the entire universe. Another reason to hate the hyperspace-kamikaze

TambaBerry 12-17-2017 10:06 PM
Well that ship would have a gravitational pull so the bombs would drop to it

Hammock Parties 12-17-2017 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by temper11 (Post 13293267)
Or bombs dropping from a bomber in a zero gravity environment. I am allowing myself to believe the rebels were creative with magnets to get away with that one.
ROFL

All good reasons why you shouldn't try to apply this level of minutiae to the science of Star Wars.

It doesn't exist within our laws of physics and never has.

temper11 12-17-2017 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13293303)
Well that ship would have a gravitational pull so the bombs would drop to it
I like this too.


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