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okcchief 07-16-2014 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Fisher (Post 10749581)
**** the Hornets, and **** them for trying to steal Gordon Hayward from us. Of course, this inevitably led to us paying him 63 million dollars over 4 years. :banghead:

Shouldn't have matched. Hayward is a decent player, but max money is stupid.

-King- 07-16-2014 01:44 PM

I wonder if some teams sign RFAs to ridiculous contracts knowing the original team will match just to **** up their cap space.

Bufkin 07-16-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10749613)
Shouldn't have matched. Hayward is a decent player, but max money is stupid.

I won't begin to understand how the salary cap works for the NBA, but the way it was explained to me, it won't hurt us too bad because we needed to spend money anyways to reach the minimum.

Al Bundy 07-16-2014 02:22 PM

Looks like Brandon Rush is a Warrior again.

ChiefsCountry 07-16-2014 02:34 PM

Here is a list of NBA trades for superstars, just to give some perspective to deals that happen for them

Shaquille O’Neal trade to Miami
Brain Grant, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, 1st Round Pick

Pau Gasol trade to Lakers
Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie, the rights to Marc Gasol, and 2008 and 2010 first round draft picks

Kevin Garnett to Celtics
Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, Boston's 2009 first-round draft pick (top 3 protected), and the 2009 first-round pick which Minnesota had traded to Boston in the Ricky Davis-Wally Szczerbiak trade of 2006.

Chris Paul to Clippers
Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu, and the Minnesota Timberwolves' unprotected first round pick in the 2012 Draft

Carmelo Anthony to Knicks
Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, Timofey Mozgov, a future first-round draft selection and two future second-round draft selections (originally acquired from Golden State on Jul. 9, 2010), the right to exchange 2016 first-round draft selections and cash considerations

Dwight Howard to Lakers
Josh McRoberts, Christian Eyenga, Maurice Harkless, Nikola Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, and draft picks

KevB 07-16-2014 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric Fisher (Post 10749629)
I won't begin to understand how the salary cap works for the NBA, but the way it was explained to me, it won't hurt us too bad because we needed to spend money anyways to reach the minimum.

More important for Utah is Favors fulfilling his promise and Exum becoming a star.

KevB 07-16-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 10749541)
I think they were fortunate. They needed Stephenson more than Hayward and backed into it.

I wonder who sits? Gerald Henderson I'd guess. That would give them some scoring off the bench.

Mother****erJones 07-16-2014 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss (Post 10749187)
Bulls will lose to the LeBrons.

Jimmy Butler is never going to be more than he is right now, Derrick Rose has been out of basketball forever, Noah is the most overrated player in the league, and Pau is Pau at age 34.

ROFL Noah is the most overrated player? Don't think so. You're just ****ing stupid. The East is theirs to lose.

okcchief 07-16-2014 03:22 PM

I would tend to favor Cleveland. Everyone in the East is a question mark for one reason or another. I'll take the question mark with Lebron.

Bufkin 07-16-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10749837)
ROFL Noah is the most overrated player? Don't think so. You're just ****ing stupid. The East is theirs to lose.

Man, you really took offense to that.

mcaj22 07-16-2014 03:30 PM

Wiz also acquired Dejuan Blair in a sign and trade with the Mavs. Our frontcourt is going to bang hard

saphojunkie 07-16-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10749740)
Here is a list of NBA trades for superstars, just to give some perspective to deals that happen for them

Shaquille O’Neal trade to Miami
Brain Grant, Lamar Odom, Caron Butler, 1st Round Pick

Pau Gasol trade to Lakers
Kwame Brown, Javaris Crittenton, Aaron McKie, the rights to Marc Gasol, and 2008 and 2010 first round draft picks

Kevin Garnett to Celtics
Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Sebastian Telfair, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, Boston's 2009 first-round draft pick (top 3 protected), and the 2009 first-round pick which Minnesota had traded to Boston in the Ricky Davis-Wally Szczerbiak trade of 2006.

Chris Paul to Clippers
Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, Al-Farouq Aminu, and the Minnesota Timberwolves' unprotected first round pick in the 2012 Draft

Carmelo Anthony to Knicks
Wilson Chandler, Danilo Gallinari, Raymond Felton, Timofey Mozgov, a future first-round draft selection and two future second-round draft selections (originally acquired from Golden State on Jul. 9, 2010), the right to exchange 2016 first-round draft selections and cash considerations

Dwight Howard to Lakers
Josh McRoberts, Christian Eyenga, Maurice Harkless, Nikola Vucevic, Arron Afflalo, Al Harrington, and draft picks

Interesting. First of all because three of those trades involved the Lakers and almost a fourth one was as well (Chris Paul).

Paul had an expiring deal and said he wouldn't re-sign with the Hornets. Gasol still had three years on his deal at the time.

Carmelo was a sign-and-trade, which I think right now only Cleveland could pull off.

I would say that the Dwight Howard trade is exactly why teams are not willing to overpay for Kevin Love. That massively backfired when he didn't sign an extension with the team, something EVERYONE in LA expected him to do.

KC native 07-16-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10749883)
Wiz also acquired Dejuan Blair in a sign and trade with the Mavs. Our frontcourt is going to bang hard

Dejuan Blair is an interesting player. He plays hard all the time and has heart, but he will get pushed around by bigger players. He's a good spark but his inconsistent offense and being occasionally dominated is frustrating from a fan's point of view.

mcaj22 07-16-2014 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10749933)
Dejuan Blair is an interesting player. He plays hard all the time and has heart, but he will get pushed around by bigger players. He's a good spark but his inconsistent offense and being occasionally dominated is frustrating from a fan's point of view.

hes perfect as a 3rd or 4th big man depth. Our bigs off the bench last year were Trevor Booker, Jan Vesely, Kevin Seraphin. absolute dumpster fire

ChiefsCountry 07-16-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 10749915)
Carmelo was a sign-and-trade, which I think right now only Cleveland could pull off.

Carmelo wasn't a sign and trade. It was a straight deal. A sign and trade is what Miami did with LeBron, etc.


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