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DaKCMan AP 07-16-2014 09:02 AM

I'm fine with Miami being under-rated. My homerism has them higher, and I like our roster better than some of the other teams people are rating higher. Wade is often cited as the fall-off-the-cliff guy but the risks associated with DRose in Chicago are much, much higher IMO. The guy's missed 115 games the past 2 seasons. Time will tell if DWade can bounce back, he was awful in the Finals, but he was great during the season (with the orchestrated 28 games off) and during the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

Pitt Gorilla 07-16-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22 (Post 10749000)
but you can say the same about the two turds the Cavs are offering hence why they havent taken that deal either.

If there was such a big gap between both deals like youve been claiming from the Cavs end, then why hasnt Minnesota taken it yet. Its clear they think both deals are shit and there isnt much of a difference. Because if there was, like you claim, then they should just do it. But its funny youre saying the front office blew it on Garnett then want them to take Waiters and Bennett. Wouldnt that just be Minnesota blowing it again? Many would say, yes.

logic fail. If neither deal is very good, it doesn't much matter how much better one is than the other.

Pitt Gorilla 07-16-2014 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10749105)
If they get Love, they'll run away with it. Doesn't sound like they will, though, if they're not willing to part with Wiggins (and I wouldn't).

I think you just made a compelling argument for trading wiggins for love.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 07-16-2014 09:11 AM

Bulls will lose to the LeBrons.

Jimmy Butler is never going to be more than he is right now, Derrick Rose has been out of basketball forever, Noah is the most overrated player in the league, and Pau is Pau at age 34.

ChiefsCountry 07-16-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10749180)
I'm fine with Miami being under-rated. My homerism has them higher, and I like our roster better than some of the other teams people are rating higher. Wade is often cited as the fall-off-the-cliff guy but the risks associated with DRose in Chicago are much, much higher IMO. The guy's missed 115 games the past 2 seasons. Time will tell if DWade can bounce back, he was awful in the Finals, but he was great during the season (with the orchestrated 28 games off) and during the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

I really like the McRoberts signing. I think he will do a lot of the little things the Heat were missing last year at that spot.

KC_Connection 07-16-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10749184)
I think you just made a compelling argument for trading wiggins for love.

Oh, it's pretty easy to make that argument. The Cavs are a 60+ win team right away with Kevin Love. But they'll likely win the East without him there anyway, LeBron is that good.

The real problem in LeBron's way is going to continue to be the Spurs/Thunder.

KC_Connection 07-16-2014 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 10749170)
I am sure Lance is now regretting his antics since it cost him some big money and I bet his Pacer teammates are all high fiving about right now.

His Pacer teammates can high five all they want, but they just lost the one creator in what was already a bad offense. I don't even want to imagine what it will look like now. That organization has likely missed their shot at building anything meaningful (especially now that the Heat are done), while Lance is still in the prime of his career and has time to build up his own value for his next contract.

KC_Connection 07-16-2014 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10749180)
I'm fine with Miami being under-rated. My homerism has them higher, and I like our roster better than some of the other teams people are rating higher. Wade is often cited as the fall-off-the-cliff guy but the risks associated with DRose in Chicago are much, much higher IMO. The guy's missed 115 games the past 2 seasons. Time will tell if DWade can bounce back, he was awful in the Finals, but he was great during the season (with the orchestrated 28 games off) and during the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

Heat are relying on Wade's health and Bosh returning to Raptors form (a player he hasn't had to be in 4 years). Neither of those things are particularly good bets, nor is Chris Bosh as a #1 something that should be greatly anticipated/desired (I didn't like him in that role at all in Toronto). Their ceiling as a team just isn't that high right now.

DaKCMan AP 07-16-2014 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10749193)
Oh, it's pretty easy to make that argument. The Cavs are a 60+ win team right away with Kevin Love. But they'll likely win the East without him there anyway, LeBron is that good.

The real problem in LeBron's way is going to continue to be the Spurs/Thunder.

The Cavs will be a great regular season team either way. The youngsters have never been in the playoffs and their inexperience, I think, will hurt them there. Sure, Bron is seasoned but when is the last time a team largely made up of young, playoff-inexperienced guys won a ship?

KC_Connection 07-16-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10749210)
The Cavs will be a great regular season team either way. The youngsters have never been in the playoffs and their inexperience, I think, will hurt them there. Sure, Bron is seasoned but when is the last time a team largely made up of young, playoff-inexperienced guys won a ship?

I don't think any team in the East will win a championship this year. Maybe if the Cavs get Kevin Love there's a shot there, but other than that, it's almost certainly not gonna happen.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-16-2014 09:49 AM

The higher risk guy is the one without a meniscus, Dwyane Wade. Stop being delusional.

KC native 07-16-2014 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 10749180)
I'm fine with Miami being under-rated. My homerism has them higher, and I like our roster better than some of the other teams people are rating higher. Wade is often cited as the fall-off-the-cliff guy but the risks associated with DRose in Chicago are much, much higher IMO. The guy's missed 115 games the past 2 seasons. Time will tell if DWade can bounce back, he was awful in the Finals, but he was great during the season (with the orchestrated 28 games off) and during the first 3 rounds of the playoffs.

LMAO underrated.

The Heat's roster is shit for post-season competitiveness.

ChiefsCountry 07-16-2014 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KC native (Post 10749278)
LMAO underrated.

The Heat's roster is shit for post-season competitiveness.

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KC native 07-16-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10749289)
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I guess you missed the rape that was the Finals this year.

Oh, and enjoy getting the 5-8 seed, a shitty draft pick, and years before the Heat will sniff the conference finals again.

dirk digler 07-16-2014 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 10749202)
His Pacer teammates can high five all they want, but they just lost the one creator in what was already a bad offense. I don't even want to imagine what it will look like now. That organization has likely missed their shot at building anything meaningful (especially now that the Heat are done), while Lance is still in the prime of his career and has time to build up his own value for his next contract.

I agree they missed their shot and will miss Lance's offense but they probably won't miss some of the turmoil. It will be interesting to see what else the Pacers do, rumors are they might be trying to trade Hibbert and get Goran Dragic.


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