I think it is starting to make sense: All the ink from those tattoos creates drag (no ThrobProng, not that kind of "drag").

Worthy would be even faster if not for the red flags all over his body! 🤓

I've seen Hardman fast at times; 4.35ish. And yeah, that's damn fast. And that's how I've seen him when he's at full speed. I've also seen a few plays where he looks less than that.

I mean I guess I don't know what 4.2 fast looks like; but I figured I would notice it. I really didn't. He just looked like another Hardman fast sort of guy. For instance, Hyatt looked faster on tape than the 4.4 he timed, IMO. Worthy looked about like Hyatt to me last season, which is to say a little slower than the 4.2 he timed.

I'd have guessed them both around 4.3 to 4.35. Fast, no question. Just not record setting.

I like this pick. Probably not their first choice, but wide receiver is a stressfull position to draft for (60% bust rate?) and they didn't just draft one they traded up. Most GM's would have been safe and picked the O-lineman.

You just don’t see worthy leave people on film and you’re right, he runs fast enough to out run his opponent. I’m just hoping that we can tap into his talent and see him reach another gear where he makes mahomes job easy with elite separation. He has the talent to do that, especially with Andy putting him in motion to help get him off the line. I think he will be better than Hardman. He shows more talent in route running. You often see the artificial turf flip up when he makes cuts and that’s another area of why I think we traded up for him. He shows more ability or potential in his cuts on routes and becoming an elite route runner than anyone else in that range for us to pick. And maybe I should give worthy some grace for not going 100 mph on every route because you often see him adjust to poorly thrown balls. In one route I saw him run down the sideline and turn and run backwards for two or three steps to catch the ball. But with Mahomes arm strength, it would be nice to exploit that deep speed. I wonder if his speed is limited by pads and the helmet more than other players with his size. I’m hoping for the best version of worthy and I think Andy has the greatest shot of getting the best out of him.

Wut lol? Yeahhhhh you do....

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">College Football’s Fastest Five: Week 12<br><br>1. <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TexasFootball</a> WR Xavier Worthy (<a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWorthy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@XavierWorthy</a>) 22.7 mph <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ReelAnalytics?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ReelAnalytics</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/HookEm?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#HookEm</a> <a href="https://t.co/wdSDwGHBm6">pic.twitter.com/wdSDwGHBm6</a></p>&mdash; Reel Analytics (@RAanalytics) <a href="https://twitter.com/RAanalytics/status/1726686134825345506?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 20, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That's faster than anybody in the NFL last year:


https://i.imgur.com/oGs4I3O.jpeg

It's because of his height. He's a taller guy so it doesn't appear as fast.

This is from oct. The new numbers only add one time to the fastest and that is DK Metcalf at 22.23. Worthy was almost a whole 0.5 mph faster than the fastest NFL ball carrier. That's fast.

The fact that we're even recording his top speed on the field with the fastest NFL runners last year seems to indicate - yes, oh my god that guy is fast.

Didn't Worthy lead college football in separation?

I know Worthy is fast but when you watch Tyreek break a play open alot of times there isn't anybody in the screen or they are 10-15 yds behind him. Never seen anything like Tyreek in the NFL, he is a unicorn.

On that KR by Worthy he almost got caught by #10 (ironically)

LMAO

So we now have the in game GPS tracking to back up the 40 time and people still can't just say "well he's clearly faster on the field than he looks".

As for the bold, you understand how angles work, right? Dude was hauling ass with the angle and still couldn't catch him.

I am warming up to this pick. Worthy's talents are undeniable. He is up there with Tyreek in terms of pure skill so I am not worried at all about him busting. Kid needs to bulk up his upperbody this offseason. Even 10 lbs would make a considerable difference. It's very encouraging that he stayed relatively healthy in college. The biggest surprise to me is his toughness which is unusual for someone with his frame. That's what changed my mindset about the pick.

I am not saying he isn't fast, he definitely is just don't like comparing him to Tyreek fast that is all.

You're being obtuse. It's faster than any in game GPS time Tyreek put up las year (and I'm pretty sure the last few years). Tyreek might be faster in game more consistently, but it's close.

Also, look at where #10 is when Worthy is around the 50. He's ahead of him by a couple yards, has the angle, and still can't catch him.

Ever heard of taking an angle? 10 had an angle on Worthy, wasn't much of one, but its there.

And when Worthy crosses the 50 that guy is ahead of him.

That is nuts. This is going to be fun.

Probably am but I just don't want unreasonable expectations being placed on him. IMHO there is fast and then there is Tyreek fast.


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Reply #1046 shows that Worthy ran significantly faster in a game last season than any NFL player including Hill. Taking his combine into consideration, it's safe to say that Worthy is the fastest player in the NFL.

His running style may have something to do with your perception of his speed. For instance, Pacheco is fast as hell, but his "stomping" makes him look slower than he is.

Ubeja sent me a private message saying that in his expert opinion, Xavier Worthy has world class speed!

Saying that Worthy has that kind of speed is a matter of fact, not an unreasonable expectation.

That doesn't mean he's going to be Tyreek though. I don't think anybody has that expectation.

Chiefs just need him to be Xavier Worthy. Andy's offense dictates the defense when it has speed. The last several years without that speed defenses have dictated the Chiefs offense. Could care less if he's not Tyreek because you're not replicating that.

Tyreek's top speed on that KR is 22.77.

Just a little faster than Worthy on his return. That just further proves the point that they're close.

That OU tape (Caleb Williams game) where he goes off for over 200 yards his freshmen year you can see the respect the defensive backs give him especially as the game progresses. They are off him around 10 yards at the line of scrimmage. Now that is not that uncommon in the college game, but after he burns them several times on comebackers and outs there is a play that is basically a go route where the DB is at least 9 yards back from him and immediately turns and sprints at the start of the snap...despite this Worthy catches and passes him and if it wasn't underthrown it goes for 6, he still catches it but the delay due to the weak throw allows the DB to catch back up.

You can see similar plays where they just start sprinting backwards against him the whole rest of the game, one he scores late tracking a deep ball all the way across the field. It looks like he basically barely beats the defense, but it is really reminiscent of what Reek used to do to defenses.

He may not be a volume receiver in year one, but he is going to tilt the field in our favor.

Keep in mind that he won't waste year one transitioning from HB - He's a legit WR with a route tree who's already one of the best coming out at tracking the deep ball.

He's no MVS or Hardman: he's better than all 3 on day 1...

I'd like to see him brought along in the offense like Rice was. Start with the slot and as his knowledge of the offense grows start moving him around. Don't really care to see him as a gadget guy, unless its more of a decoy situation.

**** that. Get him out there from the get-go. Rookie or not his speed will stretch the D and put them in binds.

That's like Tyreek Hill shit, where a guy thinks he's got an angle, but it doesn't matter and Hill beats them to the spot and zooms on by untouched. The dude is fast as shit.

That #10 is Darrien Porter, who is fast.

Darien Porter, a wide receiver for Iowa State University, ran a 400-meter time of 46.99 seconds in 2019, breaking the Class 4A state record and becoming the first Iowa prep athlete to run the 400 in under 47 seconds. Porter also won the Class 4A state championship in the 400 meters in 2017 and 2019, and was the runner-up in 2018. In 2019, he was also a member of the state champion Class 4A 800 sprint medley team and won the state title in the 200 meters.

Like fast fast.

Wow that is some important added context.

Yeah, he may not look Tyreek fast, but he absolutely is zooming around out there. He may not have Tyreeks elusiveness/quickness, but he's right there with him in top end speed. Also Hill is a ****ing HOF once in a lifetime talent. No one has it all like Tyreek does.

:popcorn:

Not trying to muddy this thread up but once again comparing him and saying he is faster than Tyreek I think is a mistake and unreasonable expectation. Tyreek would beat him in a foot race and it probably wouldn't be all that close.

Is he fast, definitely and I love that he is on our team. I like the fact that he is tough as well.

Tyreek isn't just fast. He's got insane quickness and can stop on a dime and change direction and get back up to full speed in no time. Worthy might beat him in straight line speed, but he's not able to do what Tyreek is able to do. If he was he'd be a top 10 draft pick.

Overall No disagreement

I am excited about Worthy and can't wait to read the reports of his performance this weekend. The fun offense is coming back this season and I am hyped.

Weeeeell....we both know he'll be doing that. Hopefully not just that though...

Considering Worthy has a faster 10 yard split, 20 yard split, 40 yard time AND top speed, there is no evidence to suggest Tyreek would beat worthy in a foot race at all, let alone handily.

"Don't believe the lying 40 laser time and GPS!"

It's amazing how people can be presented with facts and just ignore them by doubling down.

I'm even willing to give him that Tyreek could win despite that, but it's the "wouldn't even be all that close" part that is just the epitome of willful ignorance.

It is details like this that help make this place the most awesome site on the interwebs!

Thank you, sir.

Worthy doesn't have the full package that Hill has developed, but to say that he doesn't look fast on tape is just confusing.

I want to clear things up I am not bashing Worthy or saying he is slow. Just that when I see people comparing him to Hill it makes me nervous. I love the pick and I think he is ****ing fast and tough. I am excited to watch him play.

When I think of Tyreek speed I think of the younger Reek, I mean he did run a 9.98 100 meter. I also think of that play at the end of the Bills playoff game where he caught the 10 yd pass and smoked the entire Bills D.

If Worthy is like that **** me that would be awesome. Just don't want to have unreasonable expectations for the kid. That is all. I won't comment any further.

Based on what I've seen so far, Worthy is already better at tracking and catching over the shoulder longballs than Reek

Not trying to poop on Reek just because he's gone, but Worthy is already a more natural hands catcher IMHO

Worthy also doesn't try to catch the ball with his chest.

Yeah - Hill never really did get very good at that.

He knew he could just stop, turn and go straight up (unlike anyone I've ever seen) so that's usually what he did.

He was decent at those lose trajectory balls that were coming in at an angle. But the straight up 'run under' balls were something he was mostly kinda average at.

I mean even as amazing as he is, Mahomes has never been good at those types of passes. Think that has more to do with it than Tyreek being unable to do it.

And he was somehow still much better at it than MVS and Hardman.

Worthy is way more polished WR than Reek was coming out of college. I thought Tyreek was mostly a returner

I'll give you some slack. Tyreeks 200m speed in college was OLYMPIC level speed. It's kind of hard to compare to that when you can count who's faster than him on one hand.

Which is funny, maybe Worthy could actually compete at that level.

Tyreek ran a 9.9 100m in high school. He ran a 20.1 in the 200.

If any of you know track, that's nutso fast. Maurice Green's best time was 9.79 and he won four medal in the olympics including gold in the 100.

So like, if Worthy is faster than Hill then he 100% should have been qualifying for the Olympics.

I just never, ever have trusted that MPH thing on the football field.

That said, there is fast, there is track fast, and there is football fast. Worthy is football fast just like Hill. He can't cut like Hill but I don't remember anyone else in history like Hill. I love Worthy and think he's going to go yard in a preseason game and every single person in America is going to say who the HELL let the Chiefs have this guy and then remember oh the Bills. Of course.

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Exactly right, more often than not he would have to stop, pivot and leap to snag a deep pass instead of just running underneath it without losing momentum

And it usually worked like magic, still love what he brought us

But I'm excited about Worthy, he has Reek speed and 2.0 hands/spatial awareness... Rice will go from #1 to #2 sooner rather than later

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He had plenty of over the shoulder catches when the ball was thrown right. He only stopped if he absolutely needed to because of an under throw or a defender being on top of him so he would catch it before the ball got to the defender

Tyreek s short strides are what allow him to change direction so quickly , Worthy seems to have longer strides.

Worthy looks like much better route runner than when Tyreek came into the league .

Great post, that was a thrill ride with several instances of Reek displaying great deep ball tracking skills... but I will maintain that Worthy is still more natural as a receiver

I'm sure it's a superstitious thing.

My comparison:

Mix of Jerry Rice and Randy Moss

Bitching about how the MEASURABLY FASTEST PLAYER IN ORGANIZED FOOTBALL doesn’t look fast enough is ChiefsPlanet.com boiled down to its idiotic essence.

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I wish we had Worthy's 3 cone and shuttle scores.

Would be interesting to see how they compare to Tyreek.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GH8yMIKW4AAU1U4.jpg

With the speed of Maurice Green

Darrell Green?

Where are you getting THAT?

Dude, come on. A foot race is completely different from running a 40. In a foot race you’re running as fast as you can. But, in the 40, you’re running as fast as you can.


That, as hard as it is to believe, might be one of the strangest claims I’ve ever read on Chiefsplanet.

Uh oh guys. Worthy dropped some passes against Washington. He's Toney 2.0, busted pick, end thread etc

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Didn't he have a broken hand

Yes, 2022 is the only year he kind of struggled with drops and he played with a broken hand for several games. Pretty sure that was one of those games.

Get hyped

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I know its bullshit padless stuff, but yeah, I'm hyped.

Not gonna lie, that out break is wicked quick.

First drive of the game in the Thursday night opener I hope they go hard playaction and let Mahomes put it out there as far as he can to Worthy. Put the fear of God into the rest of the league. Let em know they all F'ed up.

He better buy them on Saturday then............

Xavier Worthy MAKING PLAYS in Drills At Kansas City Rookie Camp

https://youtu.be/-gJQ9F5tArQ?si=8QI85eEcLGWcRHID

Yeah, I saw an old highlight of Justin Tuck run down LT on what should have been a very long 80 yard TD, and he did it because as soon as he stopped his rush on the wide side of the field, he turned and literally just started running to a spot on short side, and met him like 60 yards down field and pushed him out.

What makes Tyreek different from every fast person in the history of the NFL, is Tyreek isn't just fast, and I have said this before, he is the twitchiest quick twitch athlete, maybe that we have ever seen.

Everything he does is fast. Goes down to a knee to catch a ball, with the defender within half a yard, and is on his feet again before the defender realized he caught the ball.

Every Tyreek Hill movement is dripping in his speed. And it looks different on film or live.

Worthy is very fast, and is going to eat in this offense, I believe that absolutely. He will blow by guys that we think are fast. He is just never going to look like Tyreek, BECAUSE NO ONE LOOKS LIKE TYREEK.

People need to get over that.

Tyreek is 1 of 1. Thats not a knock on anyone else. Just what it is.

The others who were that explosive are Darrell Green and Bob Hayes

Worthy’s in the conversation with Tyreek and weaponizes his speed at the same level.

Gonna be fun watching Pat dice up teams with these guys the next couple years.

In seven years Mahomes will be 35 and Worthy will be 28. I'm absolutely thrilled Mahomes will have the fastest reciever in the world for the duration of the heart of his career. Man I love this team! LMAO

He is smart kid and he is going to be fun to watch.

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