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Katipan 04-24-2024 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17491938)
He wasn't charged with street racing or a felony leading up to the accident. The charges are felonies due to leaving the scene, not the acts of the accident. I think this is the reason his attorney advised him to admit he was driving, otherwise the insurance wouldn't have covered the damages.

Im sure there is massive evidence he was driving.

They know exactly how fast the cars were going in the last 10 seconds and he was driving on the shoulder.

Its weird how dearly you hope insurance covers it. You know ultimately that means you are covering it.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17491957)
Im sure there is massive evidence he was driving.

They know exactly how fast the cars were going in the last 10 seconds and he was driving on the shoulder.

Its weird how dearly you hope insurance covers it. You know ultimately that means you are covering it.

I don't hope anything. It's just how it works. If you are driving fast and cause a wreck insurance covers it. That's why young men play way higher rates than others. If you are committing felony while driving high, drunk or fleeing pursuit, racing they can refuse to pay, but many times they don't. None of those applied in this case. The victims injuries in this case usually have pain and suffering in 5 digit range, not the 8 digit range and Texas has very straight forward punative damage rules/limits?

It will be interesting to see how this transpires on how the Corvette and their liability with Rashee being the owner and his friend driving will proceed as well.

Katipan 04-24-2024 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17491971)
I don't hope anything. It's just how it works. If you are driving fast and cause a wreck insurance covers it. That's why young men play way higher rates than others. If you are committing felony while driving high, drunk or fleeing pursuit, racing they can refuse to pay, but many times they don't. None of those applied in this case. The victims injuries in this case usually have pain and suffering in 5 digit range, not the 8 digit range and Texas has very straight forward punative damage rules/limits?

It will be interesting to see how this transpires on how the Corvette and their liability with Rashee being the owner and his friend driving will proceed as well.

The rules are different when you rent someone else's property. That's why all the paperwork.

Bob Dole 04-24-2024 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17491759)
His rental vehicle insurance isn't going to cover anything since he used the car in the manner that he did.

He could have insurance through a personal car but id be curious to see what the cover is for using a rental car in a prohibited manner.

Does he have personal all encompassing insurance at his age and maturity level? I dunno.

I’m assuming his rental was from one of those exotic rental car places in Dallas and not Hertz, so I don’t know how their insurance is set up. Pretty sure if I rent a Lamborghini, they know I’m going to speed.

Katipan 04-24-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole (Post 17491976)
I’m assuming his rental was from one of those exotic rental car places in Dallas and not Hertz, so I don’t know how their insurance is set up. Pretty sure if I rent a Lamborghini, they know I’m going to speed.

Sure, go rent one and let's see the waiver.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17491974)
The rules are different when you rent someone else's property. That's why all the paperwork.

Yes, most, if not all exotic rentals require a supplemental insurance policy. It is issued by a 3rd party and would be no different than other auto policies as it would have a deductible and limits. If they don't require the supplemental insurance, his personal coverage would be enough if his limits were appropriate.: Here is one of those companies that provides rental insurance.

https://www.primeis.com/product-line...hird%20parties.

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Prime Insurance Company offers insurance for exotic car rentals to both businesses and individuals. If your client is renting an exotic car, this insurance pays for injuries or damage sustained by others due to an accident resulting from their negligence. If your client is the owner of an exotic car rental company, then Prime can offer insurance to cover general business risks stemming from the use of these vehicles as well as coverage for the fleet, their property, and more.
I rented a BMW i8 when we went to SB 54 in Miami, they required the supplemental insurance and it's not cheap. I believe it was $85 a day. I bought it despite having personal coverage because a fender bender would have been crazy expensive and raised my personal rates drastically.

Katipan 04-24-2024 04:07 PM

Now check your exclusions.

This took like 3 seconds.

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However, if the vehicle is obtained through fraud or you have an accident resulting from use of the car in a manner prohibited by paragraph 5. of the Rental Agreement, LDW is void and you will be responsible for all loss or damage to the car.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17492333)
Now check your exclusions.

This took like 3 seconds.

This took like 3 seconds to find what's prohibited. I've probably rented close to 1000 cars in 25 years of traveling for my job...

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Prohibited Uses that may result in full liability include either you or an authorised driver incurring overhead or undercarriage damage, driving on unsealed roads, failing to safeguard the vehicle (e.g., leaving keys in vehicle) or allowing an unauthorised driver to drive the vehicle.

Katipan 04-24-2024 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17492429)
This took like 3 seconds to find what's prohibited. I've probably rented close to 1000 cars in 25 years of traveling for my job...

😂😂

No way that is the full list. Where is your source?

TwistedChief 04-24-2024 07:56 PM

Get a room, you two.

And I mean a conference room.

To debate rental car contract legalese.

Booooorrrrrriiiiiinnnnnnggggg...

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17492619)
😂😂

No way that is the full list. Where is your source?

Every rental agreement out there. The wording is standard and it is the list.

Katipan 04-24-2024 07:57 PM

Quit watching creeper. Work on yourself.

And both of you read Annexture 8.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17492626)
Get a room, you two.

And I mean a conference room.

To debate rental car contract legalese.

Booooorrrrrriiiiiinnnnnnggggg...

verbal foreplay...:drool:

Katipan 04-24-2024 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17492630)
Every rental agreement out there. The wording is standard and it is the list.

#1 Reckless driving

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-24-2024 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17492637)
#1 Reckless driving

Just link paragraph 5

Katipan 04-24-2024 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17492642)
Just link paragraph 5

Why? The link to the whole list is there.
Or page 38.

Bearcat 04-25-2024 06:52 AM

https://i.imgur.com/Oo134ns.jpg

RunKC 04-30-2024 07:20 PM

Surely this isn’t true. No suspension??

https://atozsports.com/kansas-city/c...-ian-rapoport/

Sassy Squatch 04-30-2024 07:26 PM

Wut? Literally says in the article it's a matter of when, not if. And that honestly kind of sucks. What if the case wraps up late season and we lose him during the playoff push.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-30-2024 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17505440)
Wut? Literally says in the article it's a matter of when, not if. And that honestly kind of sucks. What if the case wraps up late season and we lose him during the playoff push.

Big wheel moves slow. I said this earlier, if Rashee and his legal team want to streamline this they probably can, or they can slow play and the suspension would likely be at the start of 2025. Echols reckless driving where he partially paralyzed the other driver happened in April 2022 and he wasn't suspended until the legal process was over and his one game was served at the beginning of the 2023 season, a year and a full season later.

staylor26 04-30-2024 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17505440)
Wut? Literally says in the article it's a matter of when, not if. And that honestly kind of sucks. What if the case wraps up late season and we lose him during the playoff push.

The implication seems to maybe be that if the case isn't wrapped up by a certain point, he will be eligible to start the season, and any suspension would be for next season.

I wonder if there's some point where they won't suspend him during the season even if it gets wrapped up during it?

BigRedChief 04-30-2024 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17505463)
Big wheel moves slow. I said this earlier, if Rashee and his legal team want to streamline this they probably can, or they can slow play and the suspension would likely be at the start of 2025. Echols reckless driving where he partially paralyzed the other driver happened in April 2022 and he wasn't suspended until the legal process was over and his one game was served at the beginning of the 2023 season, a year and a full season later.

The guy partially paralyzed an innocent person and all he gets is one game?

Otter 04-30-2024 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17505488)
The implication seems to maybe be that if the case isn't wrapped up by a certain point, he will be eligible to start the season, and any suspension would be for next season.

I wonder if there's some point where they won't suspend him during the season even if it gets wrapped up during it?


I know this is unpopular and karens will come out of the woodwork to crucify me but Rashee is facing multiple felonies. Suspension should be the least of his worries.

And I know plead down, but he did this, blah, blah, blah. Nobody know how this is going to turn out.

All the dumbass had to do was rent a limo and tip the driver.

KCBlitz 04-30-2024 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17505615)
I know this is unpopular and karens will come out of the woodwork to crucify me but Rashee is facing multiple felonies. Suspension should be the least of his worries.

And I know plead down, but he did this, blah, blah, blah. Nobody know how this is going to turn out.

All the dumbass had to do was rent a limo and tip the driver.

Street racing with a limo is not as fun.

Otter 04-30-2024 10:36 PM

All he had to do was use his brain and live the dream. But "BADLANDZ" and all while putting a black eye on the SB champs.


Rashee Rice's Legal Situation: Felony Charges and Potential Outcomes

Wide receiver Rashee Rice of the Kansas City Chiefs is facing legal trouble following a multi-vehicle crash in Dallas that occurred earlier this year. Here's what we know:
  • Charges: Rice is facing eight felony charges, including:
    • One count of aggravated assault
    • One count of collision involving serious bodily injury
    • Six counts of collision involving injury
  • Allegations: Police reports allege that Rice was speeding in a Lamborghini SUV when the crash occurred. It's also reported that he and the driver of another speeding car left the scene without checking on the injured people involved.
Possible Outcomes:
It's important to understand that this situation is still ongoing, and the final outcome will depend on the legal process. Here are some potential scenarios:
  • Plea Deal: Rice's legal team might negotiate a plea deal with prosecutors. This could involve pleading guilty to lesser charges in exchange for a reduced sentence.
  • Trial: If no plea deal is reached, Rice could go to trial. The outcome would depend on the evidence presented at trial and the jury's verdict.
Potential Penalties:
The specific charges Rice faces carry varying degrees of potential punishment:
  • Aggravated Assault: This is a second-degree felony in Texas, punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
  • Collision Involving Serious Bodily Injury: This is a third-degree felony, punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
  • Collision Involving Injury: This is a state jail felony, punishable by up to two years in jail.
Impact on Football Career:
The NFL has a Personal Conduct Policy that could lead to suspension or even expulsion from the league if Rice is found guilty. The Chiefs could also take disciplinary action against him.
Here are some resources for further information:
Disclaimer: I cannot provide legal advice. This information is for general knowledge purposes only. It's advisable for Rice to consult with his legal counsel regarding the specifics of his case.

Chief Pagan 04-30-2024 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KCBlitz (Post 17505659)
Street racing with a limo is not as fun.

Yea, I usually save the limo's for the demolition derby event...

DRM08 04-30-2024 10:50 PM

It will suck if the league office announces the suspension right when the Playoffs are starting next January. Hopefully the situation is resolved during the early part of the regular season.

staylor26 04-30-2024 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17505667)
It will suck if the league office announces the suspension right when the Playoffs are starting next January. Hopefully the situation is resolved during the early part of the regular season.

Seems extremely unlikely. Can't recall that happening recently.

smithandrew051 04-30-2024 11:34 PM

He should be given the Key to the City tbh

Rainbarrel 05-01-2024 12:57 AM

It's a sausage making fest

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-01-2024 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17505517)
The guy partially paralyzed an innocent person and all he gets is one game?

Yes,


https://nypost.com/2023/05/25/jets-b...ystery-reason/

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-01-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter (Post 17505663)
All he had to do was use his brain and live the dream. But "BADLANDZ" and all while putting a black eye on the SB champs.


Rashee Rice's Legal Situation: Felony Charges and Potential Outcomes

Wide receiver Rashee Rice of the Kansas City Chiefs is facing legal trouble following a multi-vehicle crash in Dallas that occurred earlier this year. Here's what we know:
  • Charges: Rice is facing eight felony charges, including:
    • One count of aggravated assault
    • One count of collision involving serious bodily injury
    • Six counts of collision involving injury
  • Allegations: Police reports allege that Rice was speeding in a Lamborghini SUV when the crash occurred. It's also reported that he and the driver of another speeding car left the scene without checking on the injured people involved.
Possible Outcomes:
It's important to understand that this situation is still ongoing, and the final outcome will depend on the legal process. Here are some potential scenarios:
  • Plea Deal: Rice's legal team might negotiate a plea deal with prosecutors. This could involve pleading guilty to lesser charges in exchange for a reduced sentence.
  • Trial: If no plea deal is reached, Rice could go to trial. The outcome would depend on the evidence presented at trial and the jury's verdict.
Potential Penalties:
The specific charges Rice faces carry varying degrees of potential punishment:
  • Aggravated Assault: This is a second-degree felony in Texas, punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
  • Collision Involving Serious Bodily Injury: This is a third-degree felony, punishable by up to 10 years in prison.
  • Collision Involving Injury: This is a state jail felony, punishable by up to two years in jail.
Impact on Football Career:
The NFL has a Personal Conduct Policy that could lead to suspension or even expulsion from the league if Rice is found guilty. The Chiefs could also take disciplinary action against him.
Here are some resources for further information:
Disclaimer: I cannot provide legal advice. This information is for general knowledge purposes only. It's advisable for Rice to consult with his legal counsel regarding the specifics of his case.

This is a similar situation with similar charges, except Echols didn't leave the scene.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/25/jets-b...ystery-reason/

DRM08 05-01-2024 01:47 PM

James Palmer claims Rice is getting suspended for at least 8 games. Hopefully that’s not accurate. How does the league justify that level of punishment when a Jets guy recently paralyzed an innocent person and only got a 1 game suspension?

staylor26 05-01-2024 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17506365)
James Palmer claims Rice is getting suspended for at least 8 games. Hopefully that’s not accurate. How does the league justify that level of punishment when a Jets guy recently paralyzed an innocent person and only got a 1 game suspension?

Where did you see this?

As I've said before, 8 or anything like that would be the most absurd arbitrary punishment in NFL history.

staylor26 05-01-2024 02:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Palmer letting this one fly on Steve Smith’s Agent 89 Breakdown Show..<br><br>Rashee Rice *IS GONNA* be suspended and that they’re [Chiefs] *EXPECTING HALF A SEASON AT LEAST* ���� <a href="https://t.co/UTdtRdumP1">pic.twitter.com/UTdtRdumP1</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1785754239169405381?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He sure did say this, and if true, it's absolutely ****ing bullshit. Hope all the "Chiefs fans" that contributed to all the drama will be happy.

raybec 4 05-01-2024 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17506365)
James Palmer claims Rice is getting suspended for at least 8 games. Hopefully that’s not accurate. How does the league justify that level of punishment when a Jets guy recently paralyzed an innocent person and only got a 1 game suspension?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My understanding is the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> expect WR Rashee Rice to be suspended during the 2024 season, but at this moment KC doesn&#39;t exactly know the # of games. We&#39;ll see if this impacts their plans with pick 32. Last year KC tried to trade up for a WR. Will they try again this year?</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1783585269079318537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did he say that after this?

He sure did but that sounds prett off the cuff and arbitrary

Katipan 05-01-2024 02:04 PM

I don't have any idea where that number comes from but the problem is the perception of callous disregard for human life.

He just ignored them and walked away.

DRM08 05-01-2024 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 17506390)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My understanding is the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> expect WR Rashee Rice to be suspended during the 2024 season, but at this moment KC doesn&#39;t exactly know the # of games. We&#39;ll see if this impacts their plans with pick 32. Last year KC tried to trade up for a WR. Will they try again this year?</p>&mdash; James Palmer (@JamesPalmerTV) <a href="https://twitter.com/JamesPalmerTV/status/1783585269079318537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Did he say that after this?

Yes, he was on a podcast at some point in recent days (maybe even today). The video is sped up but it does sound like he’s saying half of a season:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Palmer letting this one fly on Steve Smith’s Agent 89 Breakdown Show..<br><br>Rashee Rice *IS GONNA* be suspended and that they’re [Chiefs] *EXPECTING HALF A SEASON AT LEAST* 🫣🫣 <a href="https://t.co/UTdtRdumP1">pic.twitter.com/UTdtRdumP1</a></p>&mdash; Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1785754239169405381?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Pasta Little Brioni 05-01-2024 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506382)
Where did you see this?

As I've said before, 8 or anything like that would be the most absurd arbitrary punishment in NFL history.

Absolutely. The league is very inconsistent with punishment. He deserves a suspension but that much s a damn joke.

Jerm 05-01-2024 02:07 PM

Kamara got what, 4 games and appealed to 3?

That was for a heinous assault that was caught on tape...

The **** is the justification here of giving Rice more than that?

Pasta Little Brioni 05-01-2024 02:08 PM

Von, Talib, Ray Ray, Kamara...etc

staylor26 05-01-2024 02:10 PM

He'll get 8 games and we'll still have to hear about how much the NFL loves the Chiefs and helps us SO much.

DRM08 05-01-2024 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506382)
Where did you see this?

As I've said before, 8 or anything like that would be the most absurd arbitrary punishment in NFL history.

Willie Gay suspension was pretty harsh as well when you look at other cases around the league. Paralyze an innocent person? No problem, 1 game suspension as a New York Jets player. Trash a vacuum cleaner? 4 game suspension as a Chiefs player. It seems the Chiefs are held to a higher standard than other teams. Just my two cents.

Sassy Squatch 05-01-2024 02:14 PM

Woof. Hope he's not headed for Commissioners Exempt too.

smithandrew051 05-01-2024 02:21 PM

Keep Skyy Moore and let Rashee Rice wear his jersey for half the season then cut Skyy when the suspension is over.

loochy 05-01-2024 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17506416)
Keep Skyy Moore and let Rashee Rice wear his jersey for half the season then cut Skyy when the suspension is over.


FYP

RunKC 05-01-2024 02:42 PM

If Rashee misses that much time I think you’ll see a big opportunity for Wiley. They need that bigger body YAC guy in the middle of the field and I think he’s perfect for that.

Put Wiley, Kelce, Hollywood and Worthy all on the field together

staylor26 05-01-2024 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17506458)
If Rashee misses that much time I think you’ll see a big opportunity for Wiley. They need that bigger body YAC guy in the middle of the field and I think he’s perfect for that.

Put Wiley, Kelce, Hollywood and Worthy all on the field together

That's exactly where my mind went when I first thought about in house options.

Wiley would be perfect.

Icon 05-01-2024 04:02 PM

James Palmer is just speculating. He has no inside info because there is no inside info. They're all waiting for the legal process to complete before they render judgement.

Womble 05-01-2024 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17506416)
Keep Skyy Moore and let Rashee Rice wear his jersey for half the season then cut Skyy when the suspension is over.

Won't work. Suspicions will be raised if Skyy Moore suddenly learns how to run routes, get open and catch the football.

smithandrew051 05-01-2024 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17506644)
Won't work. Suspicions will be raised if Skyy Moore suddenly learns how to run routes, get open and catch the football.

Shit. Good point.

TrebMaxx 05-01-2024 05:00 PM

One thing about getting older is I have seen this kind of stuff before and the results are always different for what punishment is given. I shrug it off and wait for whatever happens. Nothing I can do about it.

ToxSocks 05-01-2024 05:02 PM

4 Game suspension for a car accident. Add another 4 games for getting caught on camera.

BossChief 05-01-2024 05:43 PM

I guess we should also be pulling for Toney to put it all together in a contract year and help fill the void while Rice is out, too.

I can definitely see Godell making an example of Rice leaving the scene in the way he did in this situation. 8 games seems harsh af (based on precedent of accidents of this nature, but not leaving the scene) but I’m not sure there is an existing precedent for leaving the scene. Gonna be controversial, for sure.

FloridaMan88 05-01-2024 05:56 PM

An 8 game suspension would be more severe than many of the recent domestic violence-related suspensions… not going to happen.

Chief Pagan 05-01-2024 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506388)

He sure did say this, and if true, it's absolutely ****ing bullshit. Hope all the "Chiefs fans" that contributed to all the drama will be happy.

I'm sure Goodell is closely monitoring the outrage on CP in order to decide the length of the suspension.

BWillie 05-01-2024 06:27 PM

He's going to get 4 to 6. It may be more than 4 now that the season is 17 games. I honestly just don't see 8.

It COULD be a blessing in disguise. We are going to be so good next year that I don't even know if that will cost us a #1 seed. That will force Reid to do something he hates doing...and thats throw rookies and new players into the fire. Wiley, Worthy and Hollywood will get more opportunities and that will pay dividends by the time the postseason comes around.

staylor26 05-01-2024 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17506743)
I'm sure Goodell is closely monitoring the outrage on CP in order to decide the length of the suspension.

Yea, that's totally what I meant!

I said they contributed to all the drama and the situation being overblown. That's it.

I also didn't say I anything about CP in particular.

This situation has been completely overblown on the national level from the very beginning, like nothing I've ever seen before. If he indeed gets 8 games, I do believe it is a reflection of that.

Hydrae 05-01-2024 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506749)
Yea, that's totally what I meant!

I said they contributed to all the drama and the situation being overblown. That's it.

I also didn't say I anything about CP in particular.

This situation has been completely overblown on the national level from the very beginning, like nothing I've ever seen before. If he indeed gets 8 games, I do believe it is a reflection of that.

There have been comparisons to the Jet suspension but there are a number of differences. The main thing is, Rice is a much more known player, especially after the Super Bowl. This has caused the media to notice is more and make it a bigger deal. Hell, most everyone around here, including myself, even know about the guy on the Jet's.

Suspensions are usually due to "damage to the shield". In this case, the damage to the "shield" is much greater due to that higher exposure. I still would be surprised at more than 4 games.

staylor26 05-01-2024 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 17506762)
There have been comparisons to the Jet suspension but there are a number of differences. The main thing is, Rice is a much more known player, especially after the Super Bowl. This has caused the media to notice is more and make it a bigger deal. Hell, most everyone around here, including myself, even know about the guy on the Jet's.

Suspensions are usually due to "damage to the shield". In this case, the damage to the "shield" is much greater due to that higher exposure. I still would be surprised at more than 4 games.

That is not supposed to be, nor should it be, the way suspensions work though. Absolutely amazing that Chiefs fans are so willing to bend over and take it from the NFL.

IowaHawkeyeChief 05-01-2024 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 17506762)
There have been comparisons to the Jet suspension but there are a number of differences. The main thing is, Rice is a much more known player, especially after the Super Bowl. This has caused the media to notice is more and make it a bigger deal. Hell, most everyone around here, including myself, even know about the guy on the Jet's.

Suspensions are usually due to "damage to the shield". In this case, the damage to the "shield" is much greater due to that higher exposure. I still would be surprised at more than 4 games.

Yes, he got one game. Rice leaving the scene at most should get 3-4. The Players Association will protest hard if this gets any more than that and they should.

Kiimo 05-01-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506766)
That is not supposed to be, nor should it be, the way suspensions work though. Absolutely amazing that Chiefs fans are so willing to bend over and take it from the NFL.


Well the only option they have is to A) bend over and take it B) bend over and take it but complain on CP.

I suppose we could fly a plane with a banner over his house though.





but yeah arbitrary suspensions are a tough thing to get over I do agree. Calvin Ridley's entire career nearly got washed down the drain. Luckily for him the Titans are completely rerunned

staylor26 05-01-2024 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17506795)
Well the only option they have is to A) bend over and take it B) bend over and take it but complain on CP.

I suppose we could fly a plane with a banner over his house though.





but yeah arbitrary suspensions are a tough thing to get over I do agree. Calvin Ridley's entire career nearly got washed down the drain. Luckily for him the Titans are completely rerunned

What I mean is that they're willing to rationalize us getting ****ed. **** that. It's 100% bullshit if it's 8 games.

DRM08 05-01-2024 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 17506762)
There have been comparisons to the Jet suspension but there are a number of differences. The main thing is, Rice is a much more known player, especially after the Super Bowl. This has caused the media to notice is more and make it a bigger deal. Hell, most everyone around here, including myself, even know about the guy on the Jet's.

Suspensions are usually due to "damage to the shield". In this case, the damage to the "shield" is much greater due to that higher exposure. I still would be surprised at more than 4 games.

The Jets guy should still be in jail. You paralyze an innocent person, your ass goes to jail for a long time. That's my take. Both law enforcement as well as the NFL let the Jets guy off the hook with very little consequence. That's a damn shame.

The standard has been set by the NFL office with the Jets guy, but I'm fully expecting a very hypocritical penalty to be dropped on Rice. The Chiefs have a target on their backs.

BossChief 05-01-2024 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506797)
What I mean is that they're willing to rationalize us getting ****ed. **** that. It's 100% bullshit if it's 8 games.

I think you’re assuming that we (the public) know everything that the NFL does. We only know what’s on the video.

staylor26 05-01-2024 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17506834)
I think you’re assuming that we (the public) know everything that the NFL does. We only know what’s on the video.

Ridiculous. What big secret could there possibly be to justify 7 more games than the Jets guy? We know the charges. Does the NFL know something that the police don't?

Did he slap a female driver before fleeing the scene?

Come on man.

TrebMaxx 05-01-2024 08:00 PM

On the negative side look at this like a injury if suspended. On the positive side Rice is not injured but may miss some games and will be ready to go when allowed.

Mecca 05-01-2024 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506766)
That is not supposed to be, nor should it be, the way suspensions work though. Absolutely amazing that Chiefs fans are so willing to bend over and take it from the NFL.

We have some fans who can't get past the times we sucked. I think it's that mixed with Midwestern bullshit.

So it turns into "OMG character!" This shit went on ad nauseum when the team was bad. So many people who would rather have a team of nice guys than actually win.

In the end I'm not overly sure what it is but the Chiefs fan base has way more people who will literally want Rice cut or to get a long suspension then basically any other fan base I can think of when it comes to their own team.

I'm sure there's some reason there, if it's being bad so long, the Midwest, people identifying to personally with the team etc etc.

Katipan 05-01-2024 08:15 PM

The whole entire point of being a midwesterner are values and morals.

And waving at people.

Mecca 05-01-2024 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17506856)
The whole entire point of being a midwesterner are values and morals.

And waving at people.

But..he's not your friend...or even an acquaintance. You watch him play football, that's it. All you should care about is if he does that job well..hoping he gets suspended to make the team worse makes no sense.

I hate Skyy Moore cause he sucks at football I don't care if he's a good guy or not.

Bearcat 05-01-2024 08:26 PM

Plenty of Chiefs fans are still butthurt over Kareem Hunt, too.

Katipan 05-01-2024 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17506858)
But..he's not your friend...or even an acquaintance. You watch him play football, that's it. All you should care about is if he does that job well..hoping he gets suspended to make the team worse makes no sense.

I hate Skyy Moore cause he sucks at football I don't care if he's a good guy or not.

You don't get to tell people how to enjoy something, goober.

If character means nothing to you, then you are in a large boat that is well populated.

staylor26 05-01-2024 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17506863)
Plenty of Chiefs fans are still butthurt over Kareem Hunt, too.

That should've been the moment Chiefs fans learned that it's all a bunch of horseshit.

The same people that bashed the Chiefs and Hunt cheered when he got his "second chance" with the Browns.

kcmaxwell 05-01-2024 09:58 PM

So have they suspended this POS yet??

FloridaMan88 05-01-2024 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17506853)
So it turns into "OMG character!" This shit went on ad nauseum when the team was bad. So many people who would rather have a team of nice guys than actually win.

The “True Fans” haven’t all dropped dead already?

BossChief 05-01-2024 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506836)
Ridiculous. What big secret could there possibly be to justify 7 more games than the Jets guy? We know the charges. Does the NFL know something that the police don't?

Did he slap a female driver before fleeing the scene?

Come on man.

There were reports there was also stolen items in the car, that they had other drugs in the bag, maybe they were just racing, maybe there’s more to it than that.we don’t know if he was under the influence or not, if he was…what was in his system?

Players are instructed to call security immediately in situations like this. Players in KC KNOW they need to tell the truth, due to how Hunt got cut. It’s entirely possible that the NFL knows more than we do and his punishment will include all information they have. Remember…the NFL can suspend under the conduct policy even with no charges filed.

It’s also possible that we already know every relevant detail possible and he will only get a couple games (I posted every relevant case and ensuing length of suspension of the last 20 years, a few pages back) and that this report was just pure speculation that he will get “at least 8 games”…

Time will tell

BWillie 05-02-2024 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Katipan (Post 17506856)
The whole entire point of being a midwesterner are values and morals.

And waving at people.

And saying ope

Shiver Me Timbers 05-02-2024 08:25 AM

Could this whole thing get drug out for a year, whereas any punishment will not be instituted until the 2025 season?

FringeNC 05-02-2024 08:31 AM

What we can't have happen is an appeal to the suspension and then it is upheld and he misses the playoffs.

DJ's left nut 05-02-2024 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17506870)
That should've been the moment Chiefs fans learned that it's all a bunch of horseshit.

The same people that bashed the Chiefs and Hunt cheered when he got his "second chance" with the Browns.

Yup.

And when the guy was getting in trouble in Cleveland you were STILL seeing guys (of course Florio) bagging on the Chiefs for drafting him to begin with.

It's all ridiculous.


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