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You’re the man crow. Thanks for putting this together. If this is close to correct, I’d trade down and stockpile some picks bc the talent you can get late is unreal. Give me Burton and Devonte’s walker in the 4th and Johnny Wilson in the 6th. At least you’ve got young talent in the wr room and it would be extremely competitive. You cover a lot of different traits with those three guys.
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Crow, thanks for putting that together.
I like your 3rd round better than your 2nd round WRs. Not too high on Burton or Walker, curious to ask why not? Thanks for turning me on to Cowing! Why didn't he enter the draft after his 2021 season? |
Steve Smith likes Corley:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdImmVQ7Lto Someone asked what's to like about him. For one, his nickname is "YAC King" which is pretty cool lol. He average 8.4 yards after the catch!!! He'd be really interesting in the slot next to Rice IMO, we'd have 3 big physical pass catchers on the field. Make ya pay for tackling our guys and wear em down. Also, he's well spoken in the interview which always tends to make me believe the guy is pretty smart with a good attitude. He will interview well with teams. |
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I don't like Walker's routes and hands in combination. Him and Javon Baker fell alot for me. |
Corley's a Kansas City Chief.
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Forgot to mention on Cowing, Couch, that there are some drop issues there with him and his size is a big issue. He's probably 5'9", maybe even 5'8". How fast he runs will determine how high he goes, but he's without question the most explosive slot WR in this draft in my eyes. I might have to move him down the board a tad but I think he's at least on par with Tank Dell and Josh Downs, which puts him firmly in the middle of Round 3. I think he's faster than both, though.
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Thanks for that suggested list Crow. If that played out I'm coming back round to the idea of double dipping. I think Rosemy-Jacksaint goes a little earlier but I'd love him in rhe 7th after getting our guy in the 1st. I'd also like any of those guys you have in the 5th there.
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Pearsall is gonna end up being my 2nd round guy.
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I watched all of the WR/DB 1:1 reps from the senior bowl practices last night and the one thing that stood out was how easily Tez Walker got meaningful separation. He struggled at the catch point a number of times, but man does that guy know how to get open. I know solid hands were quite the issue in KC last year so it made my eye twitch every time he’d drop a pass, but getting open seemed effortless for him.
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I didn't expect to like McConkey at all coming into the Senior Bowl, but this is what I thought immediately afterwards "Looks way better than I expected, that’s for sure. Quick as a cat, runs really nice routes."
He looked so much quicker and explosive out of his cuts than I expected. Could see him doing a lot of really good work underneath. The Puka comparison was good, but I'd say McConkey is a bit less strong, but a bit quicker. The one thing that stood out to me about Puka other than his route running and hands were how physical he was. Really tough to bring down after the catch. |
McConkey gets a lot of shit on here, but he's a much better prospect than he's getting credit for.
I've seen people saying they wouldn't take him until the 4th? LMAO That's just silly. If he fell to our 3rd round pick, they should run to the podium, even if they already drafted a WR. |
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1. Franklin 2 Worthy 3.Wilson 4.Williams 5.McCaffery (my sleeper pick) 6. Weaver 7. Means |
I'm curious how Weaver falls to round 6 though Crow thought he looked pretty explosive at CU. I would be pleased as punch if he's there in round 6
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I’m interested to see how he does at the combine. |
Tez Walker has dropped a solid 2-3 rounds in mocks since the Senior Bowl. He dropped so many passes it started getting to him. Poor guy would've been way better off just staying at home.
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The more I watch, the more I try to think "what would Veach and Andy do?", the more I think Xavier Worthy will be their guy this year.
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Ok, I finally got into Troy Franklin.
Looks like a good, but low upside player. It starts with how he leaves the LOS. After he has a + release, you keep waiting for him to do something good...and you just keep waiting. So that would be a much taller but skinny Skyy Moore with at least the positive of speed. What does that speed do? Does not play as fast as you would like. Will not separate against better corners. Would be a solid replacement for the MVS role in our offense which is decoy/ and cover 2 attacker who can find big windows with a better awareness than MVS but still not exciting enough for me. Would rate him below Zay Flowers, Addison, and Rashee Rice from last year. Would also prefer Green Bay's Jayden Reed. Low chance of busting, low chance of thriving. |
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I'd love to get a bigger WR in the mid rounds to compliment Rice and even function as insurance. A guy like Dontayvion Wicks did that for the Packers this year. |
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Guys I don't like are Brenden Rice and McCaffrey. Right now they look like famous names only. I don't see separation from either. Rice plays smaller than he is imo, McCaffrey looks decently fast but not quick. I mean R5 I could see the value and potential but I'm not fussed by them
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But it does not translate to football speed because he is not sudden or explosive, takes multiple steps to get to full speed and then is a long strider. He's going to be good but is incredibly meh for a supposed 1st round pick. |
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I thought he was a typical 5'10" 185 lbs WR. I'll be very interested to see how he does next week |
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I have no idea what you're watching if you believe his speed doesn't translate on the field. |
He's 6'3. He's not gonna look like a 6'0 foot guy moving.
I'm a bigger fan of Worthy, but I think Roman Wilson in round 2 is what I'm gonna settle on. |
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I don't think I've heard a single person question whether his speed translates. |
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I don't know what his ultimate upside is but he can definitely fit. |
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He would compliment Rice and Kelce perfectly. As would Worthy. |
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Franklin looks fast against a shit team like Hawaii but not so much a team like Oregon State. He does not have the acceleration or throttle. You want speed that plays fast? Give me Brian Thomas Jr. Watch Thomas and watch Franklin. Are you seriously going to say they play at the same speed?! LMAO |
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Again, this isn't even a knock for people that aren't high on Franklin. It's the weirdest take on him that I've seen yet. |
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But the 40 times don't always tell you how fast they play, see John Ross who I also thought was overrated before his draft as far as how fast he would be in the NFL. |
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Sounds like you're full of shit. |
How can you watch this play and say that his speed doesn't translate?
LMAO https://youtube.com/shorts/1j0ER6sqS...vNTNCBdyX7oj5- |
I'd be very surprised if Thomas Jr was faster than Franklin
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No interest in him in the 1st. |
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If you don't see it on the field, what makes you so confident that he's going to time well? |
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Franklin not as sudden. Someone mentioned Jaylen Waddle and Franklin. As one of the original Waddle truthers, hell no! |
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Do you think John Ross played fast in the NFL? |
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Troy Franklin plz & ty<br><br>- Speed + acceleration are elite<br>- Improved ID of leverage/coverage<br>- Better get hands on vs press or it's over<br>- Tracks the ball well vertically or horizontally<br>- Room for development as a route runner but footwork & body control show the promise <a href="https://t.co/w36XxQrU7c">pic.twitter.com/w36XxQrU7c</a></p>— Matt Lane (@Matty_KCSN) <a href="https://twitter.com/Matty_KCSN/status/1729900785012506837?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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And speed was never the issue with Ross. He looked fast in the NFL too. His speed not translating is not at all why he failed. https://youtu.be/UON4VWToA30?si=BqYqwHTno9FEhjlC |
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Speed + acceleration are elite No. |
Franklin is fast as hell. Burst seems pretty good.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oregon WR Troy Franklin had the fastest top-out speed of the week at 22.3 MPH ��️<br><br>Via <a href="https://twitter.com/RAanalytics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RAanalytics</a> <a href="https://t.co/hfYxGPRwad">pic.twitter.com/hfYxGPRwad</a></p>— College Football Report (@CFBRep) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1724205094114066744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> I get the argument tho. Skyy was lauded for his insane 10 yard time and he doesn't show it at all on the field |
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The way you're talking about him, there would be no comparison to be made. |
Franklin is fast as hell. Burst seems pretty good.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Oregon WR Troy Franklin had the fastest top-out speed of the week at 22.3 MPH 🏎️<br><br>Via <a href="https://twitter.com/RAanalytics?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RAanalytics</a> <a href="https://t.co/hfYxGPRwad">pic.twitter.com/hfYxGPRwad</a></p>— College Football Report (@CFBRep) <a href="https://twitter.com/CFBRep/status/1724205094114066744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> I get the argument tho. Skyy was lauded for his insane 10 yard time and he doesn't show it at all on the field |
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LMAO 100% debunked. |
Thomas Jr is probably the better prospect though.
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I like BTJ, but he reminds me of Terrace Marshall Jr. so much that it scares me a bit. |
I "think" what he's getting at, is that Thomas JR is a more explosive player from the aspect of prior to catching the football.
Franklin has grown on me, because of you guys being high on him. I think he's got a really good skillset, but I still struggle with the drops and contested stuff. I also don't think he really plays to his size as much as Thomas jr does. |
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I don't care about the mass as much in today's NFL though. I just watched Tank Dell absolutely ball out before his freak injury at his size. Nobody was a bigger Dell fan than me, and even I let the size thing cloud by better judgment based on the tape.
It just doesn't matter with the advantages offenses have today in terms of rules/officiating. |
But the size does matter to an extent. It's not like it's 1994 but small guys still break down.
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They were much better prospects. He will be a fast player that will be useful but not impactful. I don’t see him separating from good NFL corners regularly. He would be a better MVS replacement here but I want more in a 1st round pick. |
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If you're sitting at 32, you aren't getting a Flowers or Addison level prospect. He's not THAT far off from Addison though. |
Could to see you guys getting on Franklin/McCaffery bandwagons I was on that awhile ago.
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I'd be more than fine with McMillan in rd 2. Ideally we get a guy with size and speed if we use a pick in rd 1 |
Franklin is a safe pick you make if you just want to check a box.
Does not project as a 1 on the next level. |
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You know how normal people react to being wrong? They at least acknowledge it. Bet you can't find a single play of Thomas Jr. being timed that fast. |
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He's a better prospect than those guys were, and he's just thin like them, not small overall. |
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You haven’t proven anything other than you love the tall, faster skinny Skyy Moore. |
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I posted a play of his speed translating on the field, and RunKC posted a tweet showing that he was running 22.3 MPH on said play. 22.3 MPH is his speed translating on the field. This is just bad faith at this point. |
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Then again, you said John Ross’s speed translated well so here we are. ;) |
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Just like with Franklin, I've posted a video of Ross's speed clearly translating in the NFL. Speed is not the reason why Ross failed, and it won't be the reason Franklin fails if he does. Speed is speed dude. You either have it or you don't. You either show it on the field or you don't. Both guys have it and have showed it on the field. |
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LMAO Was he going to be a terror as well? |
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Definitely never used the word "terror" to describe either guy. |
Since you want to be a passive agressive bundle of sticks and pretend like you're the WR guru though:
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I'm all in on Xavier Worthy. I want absolutely nothing to do with Adonai Mitchell though. Mitchell's only semi productive season was last year and then factor in that 399 yds/845 yds(47%) came in just 3 games. I don't think you spend a 1st or 2nd round picks on a dude that had 1 decent year and only had that because he had a few good games. You pick that kind of guy in the 4th round or later.
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My WR boards have stood up very well. Just going off them Chiefs would have done far better than 1 hit in 6 years. LMAO It must be your time of the month again. Time to change your tampon. |
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