<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">yes its only preseason, but this is a good sign <a href="https://t.co/qvJeUzRTjh">https://t.co/qvJeUzRTjh</a></p>&mdash; Paul��Back 2 Back Pacheco�� (@PaulHBK) <a href="https://twitter.com/PaulHBK/status/1822851531961438252?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Let’s go.

Honestly, if he’s a Yannick Ngokue type player where he’s a great edge rusher but not great run defender that’s fine by me

When we get Omenihu back we may have the best d-line in football

ROFL Against 3rd string players. I bet he celebrated with a 12 pack of Old Milwaukee after the game.

Is this some K-State inside info? Dude doesn't stay in shape?

I just rag on him because he's a bust. Waiting for him to prove me wrong and I hope he does. In his interview earlier in camp he appeared to me he forgot to lift weights the off season. I know he was supposedly working with Tamba, but doing what. Making Rap albums?

No. In fact, the opposite. He totally built his body up in the three years he was at K-State and had no off the field issues. He was a pass rush demon.

Questions on his run defense are fair. He looks to have improved his NFL skill set in the pass rush department based on reports from camp and from last night (early and late).

Hoping he continues to ascend, because he was so, so fun to watch in college.

Keep ****ing doubting FAU....

As the great Eddie Murphy said, "What have you done for me lately?"

He was a first round pick and we've seen almost nothing out of him, so yeah, I'm a doubter at this point. I have nothing against the kid, it's just that he was a 1st round pick and we expect more out of first round picks. So, I'll keep an open mind, but it's getting closer to put-up-or-shut-up time.

I thought he looked alot better in real time than on film. Some of the guys breaking down film were showing his lapses in the rungame. But really thats to be expected. Hes going to be in alot when he can just pin his ears down and rush the quarterback.

Doubled here and still got in the QB’s lap

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="pt" dir="ltr">Felix Anudike-Uzomah (#97) recebe double-team e mesmo assim consegue arrastar no bull rush. Se o Lawrence demora meio segundo pra lançar era sack.<br><br>Teve alguns problemas contra corrida, mas no pass-russ a partida do FAU foi bem sólida. Animador.<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/6TB6dSSblF">pic.twitter.com/6TB6dSSblF</a></p>&mdash; Corneta Chiefs (@CornetaChiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/CornetaChiefs/status/1822611425074004160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Like the inside turn to get back to the QB. He didn’t get washed out of the play.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Big time sack here by Jack Cochrane!💪 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/gvtQYXd1s2">pic.twitter.com/gvtQYXd1s2</a></p>&mdash; All Chief&#39;d Up! (@AllChiefdUp) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllChiefdUp/status/1822485657865883745?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 11, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looking like the offseason work with Tamba might be bearing some fruit.

Looked better. cautiously optimistic.

He's a 1st round pick. I think it's understandable to want to see more from him.

He should be supplanting Mike Danna by now.

Yeah, I would think so.

I'm always leery of taking a guy that early that needs a year of seasoning, but hopefully it works out.

Go look at all the pass rushers taken in that range last year and tell me exactly how many didn't "need a year of seasoning".

I'll wait...

If FAU and Karlaftis had switched draft classes, I’ll bet Karlaftis would have been given the redshirt year and we’d be asking questions of his capability right now while Felix was starting on the other side.

Needing reps is different than needing redshirt year.

We had the #1 defense in the NFL last year. None of those guys would've been on the field much either. You're being obtuse.

Exactly. This whole “debate” is silly and tiresome.

We weren't exactly loaded at DE though.

As far as 1st round pick status goes, I think we made the best of a tough draft spot in '23:

He was sitting there as a player at a premium position, a position of need (for '24 & beyond), a high-production player, with some questions regarding size and how he could transition. We also have a position coach that has gotten a lot out of guys. Oh, also, he was 21, and we know how Veach likes 'em young.

He flashed in the SB when called upon, which was exciting. He put in the work this offseason with George and Tamba. He's had a solid camp, and had some flashes in PS Game 1.

I'm excited to see him with Chris Jones and George as we get going into the regular season.

By the time Omenihu came back there was little to no playing time for a rookie with Karlaftis, Omenihu, and Danna. Omenihu and Karlaftis played liked two double digit sack guys while Danna was as good as a 3rd DE gets.

That's pretty damn close to "loaded".

This was a fun one, though it looked like a OL miss.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FAU had a quiet rookie year as the vets were thriving. However, there were definitely some flashes, including this play in Super Bowl LVIII �� <br><br>He’s been working with Tamba Hali this offseason. Hopefully it will lead to a big second year! ��<br><br>(�� <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@NFL</a>)<br><br> <a href="https://t.co/zvwzh2LEOD">pic.twitter.com/zvwzh2LEOD</a></p>&mdash; Let’s Chat Chiefs (@LetsChatChiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/LetsChatChiefs/status/1787578791629394355?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 6, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="560"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs rookie and K-State FB alum Felix Anudike-Uzomah (<a href="https://twitter.com/fanudike?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@fanudike</a>) making a huge play in the Super Bowl! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FAU?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#FAU</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KStateFB?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KStateFB</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EMAW?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#EMAW</a> <a href="https://t.co/VOwBdR1VOu">pic.twitter.com/VOwBdR1VOu</a></p>&mdash; Cats (@casselback) <a href="https://twitter.com/casselback/status/1756835792549269931?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

You need to stop being so reasonable and pragmatic and start PANICKING!! Don't you know the rules of this message board??

They kicked Jones out there at times. There were snaps to be had if he was ready for them.

In the end, it was a fine pick. Highly valuable position, long term etc.

It's not ideal but they did what was smart positionally. Now you just hope he's developed.

Umm not for the reason you're implying and this doesn't help your argument at all. Jones gets snaps at DE because he's just really ****ing good there and to take advantage of a mismatch. It's not out of necessity due to lack of talent at the position.

So back to my original point, tell me which rookie from last year was getting snaps over Karlaftis, Danna, Oemnihu, and Jones at DE?

So take Jones from his DT spot, where he's shown to be what he has just because he's good from the DE spot, but that's nothing to do with what they had out there?

Where did I say anything about another rookie DE?

Why? Danna is a really good vet.

Kind of a tough small sample size thing. Hindsight being what it is...you probably take LaPorta in that spot right?

Jones gets reps at DE because of the package and the look we're trying to give. If your assertion is that FAU isn't as good as Jones, well, you're probably right.

I would. Not even a knock on FAU.

I'd think knowing what you know now...yeah that's pretty much who you'd take.

I could be talked into Brian Branch I guess as well.

Absolutely, but I might have done that anyway. I've been wanting another great TE to pair with/replace long term for some time. Laporta was a/the bright spot on that Iowa offense.

Now I hope that Wiley is that guy.

Sam LaPorta or Tank Dell if we’re doing a redraft

Felix is also only 22 years old with potential for continued physical growth. The team took a flier on a high-value position and will find out this season whether it was worthwhile. I don't think the expectation was ever that FAU would play a lot last season.

Again - when the playoffs came, we were giving Malik Herring reps over him.

I didn't expect him to beat Omenihu but I would've liked to have seen him nipping at Danna's heels by the end of the year.

And you DAMN sure don't want to see him behind complete JAGS like Malik Herring come the post-season of his rookie year.

There is cause for concern here. He could make it look absurd by week 2, but there's no sense in whistling past the graveyard either.

As we continue to try to figure out CB2, it would be pretty nice to have a large, athletic, physical CB like Joey Porter Jr. out there...

He'd have been a set and forget replacement for Sneed.

Does them resigning Danna give you pause about FAU or is that more to cover for Omenihu being out most of the year?

I had thought about him.

I can't see them going back to back first rounders at CB but they did it with DE so who knows.

I think that was because of Felix’s struggles against the run, which showed up again on Saturday. Would also show why Danna is starting over him.

He may end up being a rusher for obvious passing downs. I’m fine with that if he excels at it

Yeah.

I mean, it doesn't say a ton, but it says something and it's not great. They didn't commit a ton but it IS 2 years and $15 million (with effectively a team option for $9 million on the back).

Not much, but certainly not nothin'.

Now the counter is pretty easy - Omenihu is probably gone into mid-October at least and he'll be a FA next season. So if FAU develops, ideally you still have someone like Danna as a rotational player this year and next anyway. And he wasn't SUPER expensive. Nor do we have anything at all on the way up that could act as that sort of inside/outside rotational DE behind Omenihu and Danna.

So ultimately you can find a home for Danna even if FAU breaks out.

But if we'd have seen a little more from FAU, I think they'd have probably moved on from Danna and maybe put a little draft capital at the position this past off-season.

Need him to atleast be a solid player.

I'll not knock them too much for him. It was a smart positional pick with where we were. I might have taken a different player at the time, but positionally that's where I'd have probably went.

Hell, I don't think I was that mad about the pick.

It was eminently defensible even if it doesn't work out.

But it's okay to wonder if it's gonna work out.

EDIT: Yup - was pretty damn measured on the pick.



Which is rare for me. But 'standard' first round pick has about a 50/50 bust rate at best. And we're way back at the back. It's okay to wonder...

1 Pass defensed and 1 QB hit. He's getting much better. Time for an Old Milwaukee to celebrate.

Disappointing preseason from FAU- didn’t see much from him. I was hoping he’d take a pretty big step forward this season - like Karlaftis did last year. He still might but I’m less hopeful than I was.

We're going to need to invest in DE again next year. Probably DT too.

So far...ooof

Yeah, this one is not looking good. Dude was a first round pick and could barely flash against scrubs who will be out of the league after a year in a championship program. Looks like a miss.

Showed some life game 1 of the preseason and regressed the other 2 games. Not going to entirely write him off at this moment, but if there isn't any in season improvement and a significant jump next offseason/season then its probably not happening.

Yes, he’s not showing much at all.

He made plays in limited action last year. Had a really nice TFL during the Super Bowl.

He can get better. There's still time. Khalen Saunders didn't become a good impactful player until year 4.

Our bar for a first round pick on this is Khalen Saunders?

Woof.

Would you rather he look like Nate Hobgood-Chittick?

ROFL
I remember him. LMAO

Preseason. LMAO

How much did he actually play this last game?

I don't know the actual snap count but he played quite a bit.

Looking like a total homer pick, pretty disappointing so far.

Too early to dub thee a turd

Next.

Pretty much this.

Also one of the hardest positions to make an immediate noticeable impact at unless you are one of the elites. Even then, guys aren’t hitting their prime until around year four or five.

I don’t think FAU has the sand in his pants to be a great player ever, but to hold that as the expectation for pick 32 or whatever he was would’ve been wrong to begin with.

If all he does is turn into a good pass rusher by year 3/4 — not too different from what Dee Ford did — that’s a fine pick in what was a pretty weak draft class.

It's whatever. Hopefully he's serviceable and can turn into a reliable starter, or a weapon on passing downs. I just hope he's not a total bust.

I asked this question in another thread, but he should either slim down and try moving to LB, or bulk up and try to move inside.

Because, he isn't an NFL caliber edge rusher. I mean, not a lot of people on earth are NFL caliber edge rushers, but I am not even sure he could be successful on the edge in the UFL. He makes Breeland Speaks look like Tamba Hali.

FAU and Speaks had basically the same body frame, but Speaks actually weighed 30 more pounds.

I hope FAU progresses more this year, and makes me eat my words, but at this point I believe if he was a day 3 pick, he wouldn't make the team, and might not make the practice squad.

Gonna need to make a phone call it seems.


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Meh. They clearly had their eye on other prospects. Remember Beach being pretty frustrated at no one wanting to trade with him. Hindsight being 50/50 and all should've taken either of the Lions second round picks here.

This was the case in the regular season and post season last year. So wanting him to flash against players that will be cut in a couple days isn't that big of an ask. It should be expected as a 2nd year first round pick.

Yep, can't really get too upset about it, because I don't even think the Chiefs wanted him that badly. They had to make a pick, so they took the last guy on their board with a first round grade, but I'm sure he was right on the fringe. It is what it is.

Sadly, I think your last sentence is absolutely correct, and I like your idea. I think you can bulk him up a bit and use him as a situational interior rusher, that's probably going to be the best you can get out of him.

We'll see, we've all written guys off in the past who ended up turning into decent players. Cullen will get what he can out of him, and that's all you can really do at this point.

Ngakoue makes wayyy to much sense to me

FAU was nothing special at K-State until week 8 of his sophomore year. He had a break out game where it all finally just clicked for him and he didn’t look back. Be patient folks.

All intents and purposes they wanted to trade up to get Zay Flowers.

Correct. This wouldn't be an issue if Omenihu was still healthy.

Not happening

Well, it's a mute point now.

Moot

Omenihu won’t be back til November at the soonest and coming off an acl isn’t likely to be firing at all cylinders that quick

Starting to look like a Bubba Starling pick

I was poking fun at "Hindsight being 50/50".

Shoutout to all the 4H lovin Wildcat fans out there that thought people were hating on FAU simply because he went to school there.

Never change, which should be easy for you