And?

He's still going to push for 1,000 yards and 8 TD's this season unless he gets hurt.

Fake Gronk? He tore up your #1 defense pretty ****ing good.

"Somebody who's trying to take care of his family."

Okay, so we should enjoy what we have of Demarcus Robinson right now, because he's going to make somebody pay out the ass for him when he's done with his rookie deal. And that's whether he's good or shitty. Doesn't matter.

I have a feeling the Donks would pick-up DAT if KC releases him...their return game was putrid.

Good Lord, just lob it up to him on a fly and he'll beat the defense to it nine times out of ten.

They drafted 2 guys to take on the 3rd and 4th WR spots as well as help with returns.

DAT isn't a true anything, just like mccluster before him. He has a chance to stick one more year unless kc signs a vet WR.

You need a QB who can at least place the ball downfield to give him a chance to run under it.

That is why they moved up to draft a guy in the top 10

We will see.

No deal with the Bills on his way to visit the Ravens.

I hope you are right.

and because of that, i'm gonna make sure i get kelce @TE on my fantasy team. man is gonna FEAST this year!

The Chiefs had several issues on offense last year:

1. Lack of a true #1 WR
2. Loss of starting left guard
3. Wearing down of Spencer Ware
4. Injuries to Charcandrick West
5. Ankle injury to Mitchell Schwartz (which he played through)
6. Kelce's immaturity
7. Demetrius Harris and his hands of stone
8. No viable TE behind Kelce

The forum is completely out of touch with how the NFL views Alex Smith that it's laughable. Everything is his fault, regardless of whether or not he leads the offense to 44 points in a playoff road loss or he leads the offense to only 16 points in a home playoff loss.

There's no doubt that he had a bad year in 2016, but to pretend like he's the only one is ludicrous. Schwartz, the "savior" at right tackle struggled mightily for most of the season. Parker Ehinger, who was clearly better than Zach Fulton, was lost in Game 5.

Demetrious Harris continually dropped perfectly placed passes, many of which would have been big gainers. DAT disappeared. Maclin was nothing short of awful. Spencer Ware disappeared against the Texans and was a non-factor by December. Charcandrick West was hobbled in training camp and never displayed the speed and vision that made him the Chiefs leading rusher in 2015.

Reid and Dorsey drafted a RB in the 3rd round that will likely be the starter by mid-season and elevated two second year wide receivers to starters, while cutting their most experienced wide receiver on the roster. They extended their starting right guard and brought in a talented TE that's seen few snaps during his NFL career.

The bottom line is that all of these moves, if successful, will aid the QB and if Hill becomes a true #1 and they get production from their running game and second tight end, the running lanes will once again be available for Alex Smith, which is a necessary part of his game.

I think it's more likely than not that Smith returns to his 2015 level of play. If that happens, and the Chiefs can avoid injuries to their best pass rushers, this team will compete for the AFC crown.

If not, they move on to Mahomes next year and STILL have a very young and talented team. But considering the NFL gave the Chiefs a record six Prime Time games, the general feeling is that the Chiefs under Smith will be very, very good this season.

Keep in mind, even with the loss of Houston, Bailey, Howard, Ehinger, March and DJ, this team lost two games by 2 points that had they won, would have put them at 14-2, the best record in the league.

LMAO

I bet he doesn't have 200 yards rushing this year.

What a ludicrous statement.

ROFL. I'll take that bet.

they didnt' pull back jackson's return opportunities til a bit later in his career. when he was still "young, dumb and full of " as it goes, they still used him up. I expect KC will do the same, at least this year.

Actually, I phrased that wrong and corrected.

And FWIW, you're a ****ing moron.

Why?

The little mother****ing piece of shit will just reneg, like he always renegs.

Low class, dishonorable, LOSER.

Bet me Clay. Hunt has more than 200 rushing yards next season. What do you want?

You know what's ludicrous?

The suggestion of cutting Tyreek Hill and claiming he'd have no impact.

That wasn't you trolling, that was you not understanding the game of football, despite 200,000 posts.

Wrong. I'm currently honoring a bet.

There's absolutely no way Hunt is our starting running back at any point this year barring massive injuries.

He doesn't have to be the starter to break 200.

Clay is wrong about 99% of Chiefs related content. Tyreek Hill, Sean Smith, Pat Mahomes. Clay has been predicting that the Chiefs are an 8-8 at best team for 5 years and every year it's the same egg that sits on his face with a plate of crow that sits in front of him.

It's confirmed. Kareem Hunt and Pat Mahomes will now be awesome bc Clay hated them.

Then bet me.

Ware/West will be 1-2 on the depth chart.

$50?

Kareem Hunt goes over 200 yards rushing?

$50 for you if he doesn't.

$50 for me if he does.

Works for me, bud.

I usually summarize with 'it's a team game.' But if anyone has any confusion over what I mean by that, . . . this.

Given his history, it's a bet worth taking just because Clay made it.

Yeah, Hunt will get 200. Hell, West had almost 300 last year and he was injured and/or shite for most of the season.

I'm not convinced Hunt will end up the #1, but he'll damn sure end up the #2. West isn't going to be able to fight him off.

who does that sound like? yup.

SERIOUSLY PEOPLE, QUIT QUOTING THE ****ING TROLLS!!

some of us have them on ignore for a reason, they should be ignored

Unless Ware is injured in TC or early, I expect him to start, with Hunt gradually upping his touches until mid-season, when he likely takes over as the starter.

Having Ware healthy in December and January would go a long way in the Chiefs success.

Deal. I'll send you rep for it so it's marked.

That $50 will be going towards a new Mahomes jersey....so it won't be a total loss for you.

Chiefs release Maclin
 

Wow, pretty shocking stuff, I can only assume Reid and co are looking to the future with this move... not to mention he looked like ass last year

I would be even more shocked if he didnt end up back in Philly, they're anything but loaded at WR and he could step right in with Jeffrey to give them a decent starting duo

I know they're just names....but they have a TON of WRs at this point. I don't see it.

He'll choose between either Buffalo or Baltimore.

IIRC they drafted two guys and signed Jeffrey, seems pretty thin considering Agholor (sp?) looks bad... seems like Pederson could maybe use a vet who knows the system

But who knows, definitely been seeing a lotta talk about Buffalo around the webs

They have Torrey Smith as well.

I see. So you just like being wrong on purpose.

Ah yep, forgot about him... too bad for Maclin, Philly would've been a great fit for him

Charcandrick West was a huge part of this team's best season in 2015.

I see a huge hypocritical double standard where people are insisting Alex Smith can "return to form" but a far younger player can't.

And to suggest Hunt could leapfrog TWO spots...well, that's just true lunacy.

It's not like Ware and West are old or even close to it. They're both 25. Unless Kareem Hunt lights the world on fire in preseason, or there's a big injury, he'll start the year 3rd on the depth chart.

Hunt wasn't picked to be this team's starter this season...he was a depth pick.

Wrong, as usual

http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city...or-kareem-hunt

Oh, then there's CJ Spiller...it's going to be a dogfight at RB.

Wtf is so ludicrous about saying Hunt will be the starter by mid season?

Even non-Chiefs fans in the fantasy world are predicting this.

A third round rookie who runs a 4.65 beating out a guy who was top 10 in the NFL in yards after contact last year seems like fantasy.

Funny because I remember you saying Hunt's 40 time wasn't an issue before.

You realize Ware is no faster, if not slower, correct? He's also proven he can handle a full time workload unlike Ware who never even did it in colllege and clearly struggled with it last year.

Hunt was one of the best RB's in college football at yards after contact too.

CJ Spiller?

LMAO

“You could see that where we were positioned at that particular round, we had to go up or else we would have not have gotten that running back, so we decided to go up,” said Dorsey in a press conference to explain the Chiefs picks on day two. “I was sitting there and I said, ‘We have to go up and get this running back. Otherwise, we’re gonna miss out. Take out the top tier running backs, this was the next best guy.”

Dorsey traded the Chiefs’ third round pick (No. 104 overall), their fourth-round pick (No. 132) and their seventh-round pick (No. 245) to move up 18 spots in the third round with the Vikings.

It's not an issue. I still think he could be a good player.

I just think it's ludicrous to pencil him in as the starter. This isn't a Jamaal Charles pick we're dealing with. He's not an elite physical talent.

Idiot. Troll.

John Dorsey didn't trade 3 draft picks for a "depth" player.

Good ****ing god.

Check my edit. You're wrong.

You realize Ware is no faster, if not slower, correct? He's also proven he can handle a full time workload unlike Ware who never even did it in colllege and clearly struggled with it last year.

Hunt was one of the best RB's in college football at yards after contact too.

Agree to disagree.

Have a nice, Dane McCloud9.

1) Kareem Hunt was praised up and down by pro scouts

2) Way too much is being made of his 40 time

3) He will be starting by midseason

Wait wait wait the Kareem Hunt will be third on the depth chart and won't get 200 yards this year post wasn't a joke?

That's like...a serious prediction?

That's like betting it won't rain five times this year. That's the easiest 50 bucks you're ever going to earn.

It's called Trolling

Hunt will end up a good 1 2 punch with ware

If Spiller looks anywhere as good as he and Dorsey say he does, then Spiller makes the roster over West.

Ware/Hunt/Spiller.

Spiller becomes your new Jet Sweep guy now that Reek is at the Z.

Hell, maybe they keep West and dump DAT.

Yeah I'm doubtful on spiller but if he's got whatever back, he'd be a nice addition

Frank Gore ran a 4.6 and so did Hunt.

Clay has ZERO understanding about football.

Regardless of who they keep, that part right there is a WONDERFUL idea.

Gore ran a 4.55 and he did so on a re-built knee that he never truly fully recovered from. Gore was effective, yes, but he was never the same explosive player he was before his knee sploded. Gore has never been a fast back despite timing nearly a full 10th faster than Hunt did (nice rounding trick there, ass).

Don't try to argue that Hunt isn't slow - by NFL runningback standards, he is. And that was after cutting weight. He's unlikely to be any faster than that 4.62 and could, in fact, end up a bit worse.

If you want to try to argue that he can be a good runningback despite not being terribly explosive, I'll listen. But don't try to argue that the guy is fast because by NFL standards, he just isn't.

:facepalm:

Nowhere have I said that Hunt can't be a good RB in the NFL.

I just have serious doubts that a player with his particular physical skillset is going to come in and claim a starting job on a playoff team his rookie year.

You guys can't handle a little nuance apparently.

Hunt was aiming for a 40 in the 4.4-4.5 range and expected to get there. I think he just ran a bad time and being 8 pounds overweight probably didn't help.

He's going to get a ton of usage.

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I'd say there's a 1% chance Spiller makes the squad.

Did we release De Useless yet?

I actually compared Hunt to Gore (after the injuries), but I don't think people realize how good Gore was before them.

That guy was better than McGahee and Portis. He used to come in and rack up 100 yards in the 4th like it was nothing as a freshman.

Why? He's Ty Hill's backup.

He's on a rookie deal so he's cheap.

I don't get the hate.

He's certainly not JC or CJ2k fast. Not even close.

But he was soft hands, has very good vision and didn't miss a beat at the Senior Bowl. Priest Holmes wasn't the fastest guy in the league, especially after two torn ACL's, but his vision and hands were extraordinary.

He's far more talented than Ware or West and I expect him to be a big contributor in 2017.

I don't believe it had anything to do with juevos.

I think it had to do with trust.

Andy Reid believed he could get more out of Alex than he actually could.
Dorsey trusted that he would.

These two sentences could sum up sooo many arguments that go on around here

Its no ones fault, its everyones fault, hate to say it but it is what it is, no regime is perfect... they both knew we could win with Smith, but maybe Reid believed he could win more with him, that he could coax a new pinnacle out of Smith

Oh, just **** off. This team was a laughing stock when Dorsey and Reid were hired.

Since then, this team has won double digit games and has SIX Prime Time games scheduled this year.

You, like most of CP, doesn't get it.

This is CLARK HUNT'S plan and it's FINALLY being realized.

He made a major misstep with Pioli and has rectified it.

It's also entirely possible that Dorsey liked Derek Carr and wanted to draft him, but Reid didn't like that he shits himself versus the rush.

Mahomes under pressure is a miracle to behold.

If I'm not mistaken - the numbers last year were night and day when Carr was pressured.

What the **** is your ****ing problem?

I didn't say anything negative or derogatory here.

I simply made an observation of the kind of relationship that exists between Dorsey and Reid.

Oh the heights of success! Dare to Dream!

If you think of it though a slight decline from the heady days when Reid made the NFC Championship game 4 years in a row.

Mahomes has a better chance at being a HOF QB than you being anything more than a piece of shit.

In that case go ahead and put him in the HOF now, because I'm pretty damn successful.

He's Dane.

If you disagree with him, he acts like a total dick.

Are you new here?

ROFL