Not exactly. But that doesn't mean the teams he wants to go to can trade/sign him. Most of the teams who could give up the most are more than likely teams he doesn't want to sign with.

Minnesota was ready to pull the trigger on the Love trade for a package that included the first overall pick(Which turned out to be Wiggins) this year. Why does anyone think they'd ask for LESS than that now?

yeah, Lebron probably wants to wait a year.

Weren't you arguing that Royce White was worth more than a gallon of piss last offseason? You can never be right/wrong at your pathetic level of homerism.

Yes, you are always right. ISU football says hi.

No... they can hold him for one season. You're just refusing to see it clearly.

I'm 100% certain he is.

See how easy (and stupid) that is?

And yet, strangely... Cleveland wasn't. Airtight logic there, pal.

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:spock: What? Why would they hold him for one season? They're almost assuredly going to trade him. And since they don't have to trade him until next January or February, they can afford to wait until they get a good offer.

Hell, holding him for a season puts even more cards in Minnesota's hand. Cleveland wants Love now. LeBron wants Love now.

So I'm not quite sure how you think Cleveland has any advantage right now.

I see how stupid you are.

Kevin Love is a top 2 or 3 power forward. He's the 3rd biggest name "available" right now. If you and Rustshack want to pretend that only the Cavs are interested or would be able to trade for him, and that Love is only interested in the Cavs, go right on ahead. But it makes you look stupid(er).

Anyone else think Dallas will be better than the Spurs next year?

Neither team has an advantage. But you have said Minnesota "holds all the cards." They don't.

In fact, everything you're saying is counterintuitive to that.

The wolves are "almost assuredly going to trade him." Exactly. Everyone knows they HAVE TO TRADE HIM. WHICH LOWERS THEIR NEGOTIATING POWER.

That negotiating power plummets if they trade him at the deadline.

Probably Mark Cuban does.

ROFL

My god. You are so ****ing thick skulled it's astounding. No one - not one ****ing person, save YOU - is saying that Cleveland is the only team interested or able to trade for him. We are talking about what Cleveland should be giving up in the exchange. That's it.

The only other realistic destinations, though, are Golden State (which is all but dead) and Boston. Boston has a 10M trade exception with Paul Pierce but that expires on Thursday. That means Boston needs a guarantee they can re-sign Love in the next 36 hours. NO ONE IS TRADING FOR LOVE UNLESS THEY KNOW THEY CAN EXTEND HIM. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

If someone DOES trade for Love without that guarantee, they either A) aren't giving up a potential superstar, or B) are ****ing stupid.

Which is what I've been saying.

God.

NO!

Dallas is not gonna sign Parson's. They offered him the MAX because they KNOW Houston will match it, (Houston has 3 days) thus grossly over pay to keep him. It could effect the Rocket's chances of signing Bosh or some other key Free Agent if it's not done within the next 3 days. Its a move that will most certainly force Houston to tie up a large sum of money for season's to come. Force your rival to pay - the game behind the game.

I have not.

Just because everyone knows they'll trade him doesn't mean they'll take a shitty offer for him. Like I said before, they had a deal done with the Cavs already that included the 1st overall pick. Why would they accept less now?

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.c...-does-to-town/

Once again, Minnesota holds more cards than the Cavs. There are multiple teams interested. They don't have to rush into a deal they don't want because they have 6 months to get it done.

Have I said anything contrary to that? I agree with you. With that said, Cleveland isn't the only team that can extend him. They're not the only team that interest Love. And because of that, Minnesota holds more cards than they do.

It's that simple. Minnesota is the only seller, and Cleveland is among many buyers. Supply and Demand.

I might move on from Chandler

I said one offseason that the team was better than the previous year. And yes it was a better team, but they finished with the same record. Everyone knew last year was a complete question mark. I said they have the talent to be bowl eligible, but not the experience. How was I wrong?

I mean I guess I do remember getting a shit ton of shit for saying Iowa State would beat TCU, and they ended up doing it a few months later. I also got a lot of shit for saying we would upset OSU... And we did.

But I barely talk about their football, mostly their basketball. And yeah they get better every year just like I say.

Woj says LeBron left the Miami meeting without a deal. Game on.
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I would for sure for $15mil a season - especially if no BIG FA is signed within the next 3 days. But then there's the whole "City Rivalry" thing that runs much deeper than the Mavs and Rockets and I think because of it, the Rockets won't do the "smart" thing and let him walk for THAT kind of $$$. So I'd bet anything they match the offer. (They've been saying all along they would)They're allowed to and not face a cap hit due to the "Larry Bird Free Agent Rule" BUT it will tie up cash down the road and in order to use it AND sign a key FA they'd need to sign said key FA before signing Chandler and they must do it within the next 3 days or Chandler's salary WILL COUNT against the cap THIS season making it very hard to sign anyone to a MAX deal.

Lebron needs to make his decision quickly. IF he's not returning to Miami, there's a good chance that Bosh will sign with Houston for MAX $$$ and then the Rockets can match the Mav's offer for Chandler and be back on course to chase a title having improved this off season. If things don't go that way, it's a pretty big setback.

@GaryParrishCBS: At least one reporter is now saying it’s done. RT @sheridanhoops: Source says LeBron James is returning to Cleveland. http://t.co/hYK00w5JfM

Yeah it all depends on Bosh. Which depends on LeBron. It's either both or nobody.

Suddenly I don't want LeBron to go to Cleveland. Mr. awesome, setsuna, and ChiefsCountry seem tolerable now.

An important reminder here: Sheridan is the guy who didn't vote LeBron as a 1st team All-NBA this year so he could get page hits.

Houston should let Parsons go. I like him, but he's not worth 15 million a year for THEM. The contracts for Parsons and Hayward tell me Reggie Jackson could end up being a max player. ****ing mind blowing how teams **** themselves. I think Parsons will be a scary player under Carlisle though. He should fit in well. Dallas wants to make a run with Dirk, and he's all they can get. I understand the move from their perspective.

LMAO You are dumb.

Lebron James updates his Twitter Bio to "Amongst La Familia". Kyrie Irving & Tristan Thompson (CAVS) have it in their bio

That's been there since 2012.
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Broussard tweeted that Miller is close to signing with Denver while Cleveland still pursues

They took the Spurs to 7 games last year and have an improved roster.

He had something similar to it... But updated it yesterday.

No, it's been that way since 2012. Here it is on Feb 10th 2012 https://web.archive.org/web/20120210....com/KingJames

http://i.imgur.com/BUGzA7E.png That jersey is not a coincidence...

I'm sure someone else does. But no one that knows anything

Who is that?

Mike miller

So he played for the heat, right ?

Yeah. The Heat amnestied him and LeBron was pissed about it. He's one of LeBron's favorite teammates. One of the players the Cavs are trying to get to surround LeBron.


But then again... http://www.denverstiffs.com/2014/7/9...rd-mike-miller

LeBron is done deal to Cleveland

wow. Sounds like the band decided to get back together.

Official now?

Again, **** Miami!

No

Nothing I've seen official but where there is smoke there is fire

Its incarcerated bob saying that.

Gilbert Arena's take on it
http://instagram.com/p/qQEXDWvP8i/

I ****ing lost it, I miss Arenas he was so good.

Looking back on his career is pretty crazy. He went from 2nd rounder that surprisingly pretty good but a volume scorer but did that at an all-star level for 3 years. Also done as a relevant player at age 25 but made roughly $100M during that span while having not much of a meaningful impact as a player.

Gilbert made 22M for not doing anything last season, he's doing all right.

I just remember a playoff game where he was literally on fire. He caught the ball from an out of bounds play probably 30 feet out he just turns and drains the shot.

ROFL

Miller to Denver makes as much sense as Frye to Orlando at 4/$32M.

Holy shit? That's official? People thought I was crazy for wanting to give him the mid-level. He almost got double. And 4 years? WTF is Denver doing.

So not you?

No, no, no. You misunderstood my post. First, Broussard is reporting that Denver is on verge of signing Miller. If true (very skeptical given it's Broussard), I don't get it for Denver. They had wing players, traded for Afflalo and drafted Gary Harris. Why sign Miller?

My 4 for 32 comment was about Channing Frye agreeing to that deal with the Magic. Neither makes sense to those teams IMO.

I see.

Yeah I don't understand why Denver wants Miller or why Miller would want to go to Denver.

I could see why pretty much any team would want Miller for a cheap vet contract he would expect to command but no idea why Miller would want it to be with Denver.

Legal weed.

Excellent poiint.

In the last day, ESPN has posted a front page story about why Lebron should choose Miami and another one comparing Dan Gilbert to Donald Sterling.

Yet another reason why this needs to happen. Nothing would piss ESPN off more than if Lebron went to Cleveland

chris broussard is a hack and i have no idea why ESPN employs him because he gets crushed by anyone else that covers the NBA

Brussard is by far the worst reporter in all of sports. He don't know shit. He just tosses out what he thinks is and that's his source. He's never been right on anything except mecca type captain obvious stuff.

:clap: Rep!

I agree with your take on Parsons ONLY if Houston cant sign Bosh. IF they get Bosh, then a lineup of Howard, Harden, Bosh + Parsons would be pretty stellar and could easily hide the deficiency at the point as Miami was able to do the past few years. Thats a LOT of talent if the Rockets are able to get Bosh and keep Parsons. To me its an ALL or nothing thing.

according to sheridan james' camp told everyone from the heat but pat riley they weren't welcome in the meeting yesterday.

and james informed riley of his intentions to sign with Cleveland. said LeBron will most likely announce today on lebronjames.com


could all be bullshit but we will see.

Kind of interesting how almost all of NBA free agency is at a standstill because of him. Don't think that would happen in any other sport.

Sheridan is full of shit.

Two separate media sources, an Akron reporter and a Cleveland TV sports guy both say police presence/security is being stepped up around LeBron's house in Ohio tonight. Make of that what you will.

http://www.cleveland.com/cavs/index....th_pat_ri.html

http://espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miam...ording-sources

Lebron to Cleveland needs to happen just so the Wolves can finally ditch Love's bitch ass.

Wiggins alone isn't near enough the compensation we'd need, and I'd much rather have the proposed Klay Thompson and David Lee trade from Golden State even though it got turned down. Just... at this point I don't see any team being able to offer anything better, and that goes for this offseason as well as the prospects into the regular season at the trade deadline.

Do the Wiggins deal, flush Love, and get back to work building the team into something other than a worthless full court outlet pass offense with absolutely zero rim-guarding ability.

Because it isn't news you want to hear? Didn't stop you from posting stories from the Miami Herald that LeBron was absolutely staying in Miami. Sheridan reported on the NBA for 18 years with the AP and 6 years for ESPN. The guy has sources and he's the one who broke th e story about melos trade years ago.

He could be wrong but he's not just some random writer.

Matt Bonner should be available in trade :evil:

Matt Bonner is also available as an inexpensive male escort for elderly gay gentlemen

like I said who knows...

Lebron is going to Cleveland. Done deal.


Not really a done deal yet, but mark my words (which are complete bullshit speculation on my part). I still really think he will be a Cavalier though.

Reporter from Akron Beacon Journal (@PhilTrexler) reports that LeBron James' camp informed CLE police that he'll announce decision tonight.