Nebraska's TV market, like Notre Dame's, is the whole country. It's called a brand.

Nebraska is a completely different animal from Missouri, as I'm sure you know. They actually have that rich football tradition you guys like to pretend you have.

Stanford, Northwestern, Michigan, Notre Dame, USC

exactly and they almost always are in basketball, but they are also usually better than 95% of the country. The big ten doesn't really care though

I'll continue listening to any KU/K-State fan that will come out and admit "Damn, I wish the Big 10 were offering us an invite instead of MU"...

The rest of you butt-hurt MFers can eat a bowl of dicks.

False dichotomy. You can be an academically-focused institution without being Ivy League.

Nonsense. /Cal-Berkeley, among a host of others.

UNC
Virginia
Riverside
Washington
Michigan

How many nationally televised games did Nebraska play in last year? How about the year before that? How about the year before that? Let's include football and basketball and see how that stacks up against Mizzou.

The funny thing is that I doubt most people realize that Mizzou isn't the best academic institution in the state.

Slu? Washu?

SLU? Yuck.

It's Wash U, and it's not even close, unless we're talking about the J school.

I think it was around 10. Can't remember previous years.

I wouldn't know I have learned not to listen to any person from stl talk about stl for too long.

MU's accounting program was recently voted top ten nationally. Business school in general is gaining a little recognition, but I wouldn't argue that washU isnt better

Truman State may be better in some areas as well

Absolutely.

Sure you can, which is why there was a 2nd qualifier. We should probably also agree on a definition of an "academic school" because the primary point of ANY school is to educate. Thus making the original statement of MU being an "academic first" school completely useless. That would be a quality ALL schools possessed and, thus, can't be used to differentiate between schools.

Remove the research element from MU and Truman State is better in most areas. It's the only highly selective public school in the state (WashU being the only highly selective private school).

TSU is an excellent academic school. It's not WashU, but if you can't afford $30 grand a year to go to college, it's a reasonable facsimile.

All schools are academically focused, some are better at it than others making them a more "academic school" than others

Washington University in StL is one of the most prestigious schools in the whole country. Nothing else in Kansas or Missouri can even come close, IMO.

WashU is also 30,000 a year, I'll pass

I went to school with a kid that put up a 1600 on his SATs and walked away from WashU with a 2.6.

Their program requires not just intelligence, but an excellent work ethic.

It's one of the top 10-15 academic institutions in the country. It's right there with the Ivys on most fronts.

That's insane.



Most definitely.

I really think it's going to be called the Big 16.

I hope so... just bought Big16.tv which is a solid site for sports videos.
And Big16Sports.com that I snagged earlier.

It's the SEO part of my brain that makes me snag these domains. lol

Hopefully you get sued and lose alot of money.

And that would happen why?

Have you ever successfully bought up a domain name and then later sold it to someone or are you just hoping to get lucky on this idea?

And don't forget:

Oklahoma can Die In Fire! :thumb:

http://missouri.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1090740

http://www.buffzone.com/ci_15222068

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo...alf-of-big-12/

I find it interesting that the A&M Athletic Director knew the distance between Eugene Oregon and College Station. Why would he know that off-hand if he hadn't given it some previous thought?

A&M is going to go to the SEC, replace them with Utah in the PAC-16.

I think BYU would be a better fit.

So, no more Big 12?

No Utah is the better fit. BYU is too conservative for the PAC-10 schools.

Texas doesn't seem like a typical Pac-10 team.

Probably not. The writing's been on the wall for a while now.

Well, I knew about the talks about MU and NE. First I'd heard of everyone else. Guess I haven't paid attention.

I guess I was thinking more tv sets for BYU than Utah.

http://espn.go.com/blog/big12/post/_...ig-12-meetings

I'm hearing that the Mountain West is petitioning to become a BCS conference.

Air Force
BYU
Colorado State
New Mexico
San Diego State
TCU
UNLV
Utah
Wyoming
+
Boise St
Kansas
Kansas St.

I think KU & KSU just found their home!

KU vs New Mexico and KSU vs Wyoming are very compelling games.

I'm being told that the MWC is actually a far better place to end up than the Big 10.

Looks like KU wins again!

Rock Chalk Jayhawk!!!!!

I think the KU guys are probably right....read this:

http://www.idahostatesman.com/2010/0...-millions.html

Honestly, I believe the best fit for KU, KSU, ISU & BU would be Conference USA.

Less travel
Basketball-type conference

Who, when and where told you that? Seriously.

Tell me you're not comparing the WAC to the Big 10.

Please.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/weblo...-thats-a-wrap/

It's called being a smartass which I'm good at! ROFL

What I'd like to see.....KU join the ACC. Yeah yeah yeah....I know it won't happen. But a conference with KU, Duke, UNC bball in it. Man I'd love that shit.

and some people wonder why MUrons are so ****ing irritating

We love you too, baby. MUAH!

I'm (very nearly) a genius.

Realistically, how soon can Missouri leave the Big 12?

At best pay per view. Travel expenses would kill them in the Mountain West.

And that's the very thing they are trying to cut down.

You didn't see your KU fan post in the other thread did you?

Is Nebraska on the clock?

Berry Tramel: Nebraska is the most important cog in all of this conference realignment talk. If Nebraska bolts for the Big Ten, all bets are off.


BY BERRY TRAMEL Oklahoman http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.news...mment_icon.gif 33 Published: June 4, 2010



DeLoss Dodds stood in a Kansas City hotel hallway this week and told the truth about conference realignment as only a straight-talking Texan can tell it.
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"We didn't start this," said the Texas athletic director. "But if we need to finish it, we'll finish it."
I think Texas is ready to finish it, and here's how.
Nebraska has a deadline.
When Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe emerged from a presidents meeting Friday and talked about a "process" by which the league will decide how to sort the dalliances of some schools with the Big Ten, what he meant was, Nebraska has been called out.
I don't know for sure. I wasn't in the room. But I've talked to people who know what they're talking about. And this is about Nebraska.
This isn't about Missouri. Nobody cares about Missouri. Stay, go, drop football, get mad all over again that the Insight Bowl invited Iowa State. Doesn't matter.
If only Missouri leaves the Big 12, the league is fine. Heck, the league thrives. TV revenues wouldn't go down, plus there's one less mouth to feed. Heck, the NCAA might even give the Big 12 a waiver and let it keep the football championship game.
This is about Nebraska. Everybody cares about Nebraska. Nebraska helps make the league go. Without Nebraska, Texas' and Oklahoma's enthusiasm for the Big 12 wanes.
Which is why I believe Beebe gave Nebraska chancellor Harvey Perlman a deadline Friday. Stake your claim. Are you with the Big 12 or not? Are you staying or are you waffling?
I don't know if the deadline is next week or next year, though I've got to believe it's closer to the former.
But here's what's at stake. If Nebraska won't commit — and mere words won't do it; we're talking legally-binding document — then a big chunk of the Big 12 is out the door. Probably to the Pac-10, which apparently wants the Oklahoma schools, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Colorado.
"Finishing" it (Dodds' words) won't be easy. Leaving Kansas without an apparent landing place will cause political problems. Some think Congress might even stick its nose in the door.
But even if the road was cleared for the six to join the Pac-10, devilish details will emerge. Starting with, who's in charge of football officiating? I need not say more.
Football and basketball scheduling, leadership structure, bowl alliances. Those will be some long nights at the table.
I really believe the six would prefer to stick it out in this part of the country. I believe Dodds when he says Texas, which drives the boat, likes things just the way they are.
Wouldn't surprise me if all kinds of Oklahomans and Texans called Nebraskans, from football coaches to state politicians, saying don't turn your back on tradition and history and roots. Don't cash in the known and the revered for the unknown and riches.
But if Nebraska won't commit by the deadline, the Big 12 is finished.
Berry Tramel: 405-760-8080; Berry Tramel can be heard Monday through Friday from 4:40-5:20 p.m. on The Sports Animal radio network, including AM-640 and FM-98.1.

:LOL:

Sounds like the Huskers are in the drivers seat.

Don't let the Mizzou fans hear you say that.

Why not? If there's a Mizzou fan worried about where Nebraska lands, I haven't heard from them yet.

Of course... This is clearly all about tradition.

That's not what I was getting at, that was directed to the Mizzou fans who think the future of college football hinges on whether or not they leave the Big XII.

Bug, you've gone from, "Holy shit this sucks, we're ****ed." To.. "Yay!! Us too!!! Thank God." and then on to "Nebraska is the key to all of this." in a very short time.

A couple weeks ago you were sweating things like a beaker, and now you're the cock of the walk.

It sure as hell has to do with more than what has gone on the last few years. KU and MU fans are a lot alike in their thinking that somehow the torch has passed because they've had a few decent years recently.

Eh, you're exaggerating things just a bit. I've been fairly quiet throughout this whole thing. And I haven't really changed my opinion, I still don't like the idea of MU leaving and NU staying. That would severely hurt the North Division, but in reality that would make the road to a Nat'l title easier for NU, we'd have a meat grinder of a schedule in the Big 10.

Oh, and BTW, I made a comment about NU being a key in this two weeks ago, post #943.

It does suck. I hope it is all a bunch of bullshit. I like our conference.

I for one would not be surprised if Nebraska and Missouri were just being used for leverage against Notre Dame.

The longer this drags out, the more I feel like the Big XII will stick together.

Sounds like it.....if you only listen to Berry Tramel, whoever the fuck he is.

"This isn't about Missouri. Nobody cares about Missouri."


JFC





Douche.

Yes

What a shitfest of an article.

Yeah the Big XII will suddenly cease to exist and OU and UT won't give a shit anymore if Nebraska leave.

People may not be clamoring to see what Mizzou does but no on is exactly on pins and needles to see what the hell Nebraska is going to do.

They're both much more attractive as a package deal IMO.

The truth of the matter is that he is right. This is about Nebraska. If that domino falls, there will be more domino's taken with it. If just MU leaves, Well, Bye.

pure speculation by ****ing blogger. sometimes I hate the internet. you know what's not journalism? The term "I bet."

Although I am not a Mizzou fan, that line is farely harsh, even if it's true.


I like the Big 12 as it is. If a couple of rogue schools want to leave it, **** THEM.

Dude, we're not talking about 'a couple of rogue schools' here, we're talking about THE two football powers in the north division.

2 points:

A) Missouri is the 18th most populous state in the Union and there's not a single state ahead of them that has only 1 major university. Better still, MU is smack in the middle of 2 major sports cities (and 2 NFL football teams). Does MU have a long history of sustained success? Nope, they don't. But there's nobody in the country that doesn't use the term 'underachiever' to describe MU thus far. For decades you've heard people wondering why MU hasn't become a more viable national player. From what I can tell, it's been a matter of the AD just not committing to being a sports power. That attitude has changed over the last decade or so and with Big 10 money, it could change even more. There's a LOT to like about MU going forward and I think that's what has attracted the Big 10.

B) The Big 12 folks seem to think that MU gives a rip what the Big 12 thinks about their departure. We don't. If the Big 12 doesn't care that MU leaves, who gives a shit? MU is still upgrading. MU is still going to bring in a lot more money and go to a far more prestigous conference. Folks keep acting like MU is trying to leverage the Big 12 into a better deal - they're not. MU's gone as soon as they get an offer, period. What the Big 12 thinks about MU's leaving is completely irrelevant. Y'all sound like a jaded girlfriend.

It's all about Nebraska. The only thing that Missouri has going for them is better academics, better athletics, and 10x the population base.

The BigXII may very well cease to exist.

The official moves have yet to be made, but the Pac-10 is remaining open minded in their approach to expansion. One option still being considered: A full merger between the Big 12 and Pac-10 that would blow yesterday's news away but still raise plenty of questions while making teams like Iowa State, Baylor and Kansas feel a little more secure.

"There is an enormous amount of speculation about conference expansion right now and I think with the Pac-10 that anything is possible, all the way from remaining with the status quo, where we are today, to a full merger with the Big 12 and anything in between,'' Washington athletic director Scott Woodward told the Seattle Times on Thursday. "All possibilities are viable and open for discussion.''

A reminder: None of this would be anything the Big 12 brass are discussing -- or possibly even aware of -- this week in Kansas City, but the Pac-10 is making it clear they won't be happy with handing over the first move of conference realignment to the Big Ten.

And after yesterday's talk -- or lack thereof -- it's hard to be surprised by anything in relation to the Big 12's future.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/po...merger-in-play

Better athletics? Thats not exactly true.