Agreeing with everything the front office does doesn't make you a better fan.

I would argue it makes you a worse one.

This is what I've been saying about the whiny bitch crowd.

They get to bitch endlessly, be wrong far more often than not, but there'a zero accountability. If only there were as critical of themselves as they are the best organization in football.

The number of HOF > the number of rings

This is a wild concept, but opinions can change when new evidence emerges.

You can maybe find a post like that from 18 months ago. But not a soul on this board was happy with his ability to draft receivers 18 months ago when the track record was Mecole Hardman and Skyy Moore.

He’s done a great job with Rashee and Worthy.

I guess I could double down and insist he still can’t draft receivers. But that would be even stupider.

We don't win any of those SB's if we weren't loaded with elite players dumbass.

We are approaching having only Mahomes left as a HOF player in his prime.


If we just hit singles or doubles next 3 drafts we will still be a good team but probably will be outclassed in future SB's, AFC Championships once Jones exits.

Many people like myself tried to explain to morons like yourself that the issue wasn't that he couldn't draft WRs, but that the Chiefs hadn't taken enough shots. Funny how they take two shots the next two years and go 2 for 2.

Did you learn anything though?

Clearly not.

Again, did the Chiefs wig big with the Tyreek trade?

This is a very simple question.

Your answer is no, and you're embarrassed to say it LMAO

The trade absolutely worked out. But your position that they could not have won in 2022 or 2023 with Tyreek is just speculation.


The point is they could afford to do that because they still had 3 HOF elite players at QB, TE, and DT.


Tyreek is gone so they can't do that again.

Kelce aged out.

Jones exiting in 2 or 3 years.


That's just the reality and patting yourself on the back for a move you had nothing to do with does nothing to address what I said.


;)

I didn't ask you if the trade worked out.

I asked you specifically if they won big.

You keep talking about HOF players and ignoring that he turned around and draft a guy that might not be a HOF player after year 3 (WHO THE **** IS?), but he's a top 3 CB, and a blue chipper.

Blue chippers also win SBs, and some of them get in the HOF because of it.

seems like a lot but i'm a dumbass on the internet, Veach has earned the benefit of the doubt for sure

McDuffie is a star
Creed is the best C in the NFL..but he plays C
Rice was looking like a star WR before he got hurt
Worthy is looking like DeSean Jackson.

Would also argue Karlaftis is very good and is flirting with being a star.

Veach has drafted some really good players

I think McDuffie is the biggest hit of recent drafts so getting him in the Tyreek trade was enormous.


I think much of the draft is also luck as well as skill but in any case we need a few more home runs.


Veach knows it too.

We can't put Rashee Rice and Xavier Worthy in the HOF so we get to pretend the Chiefs trades Tyreek and are STILL looking to replace that HOF talent!

LMAO

The Chiefs traded away Tyreek and they're sitting here with an absolutely dynamic young duo and the best young WR duo they've ever had. But sure, because we can't put them in the HOF after their rookie and second year, we get to cry about not having enough HOF players for the future. Such a stupid ****ing argument.

You've been pretending for 2 years that Rashee Rice isn't a homerun.

You're pretending Xavier Worthy wasn't a homerun.

They both led us to SBs as rookie WR1s, and had fantastic playoff perfomances in the process. They were absolutely homeruns.

My post isn't even just KC related. This his how the NFL and dynasties work.


There is a reason that every dynasty ends. The core or stars eventually ages out and are not replaced at the same level.


We are fighting gravity. So far we have been winning but every dynasty eventually ends.


Best case scenario is that a few of our recent draft hits are even better than we think or get even better and we land another star or two in next 3 drafts and we go another insane run.